the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

My initial thought was it was around the corner from Mark S - but no. There are a fair few little squares though.

Bit of detective work tells me it's Milner Square.

They've painted that door then - probably to throw off tourists.

The report coming out at the same time as data showing that high-end rentals are increasing possibly suggests that a lot of the financial sector ppl who had been driving the property boom are hedging their bets for now.

This is Stalybridge Labour Club today flying the hammer and sickle. Its been up for 24 hours. Disgraceful!! Care to comment @jeremycorbyn , @OwenJones84 , @jreynoldsMP, @UKLabour ?? pic.twitter.com/ENSAfJhena

— Mike Chapman (@mikechapmanUK) March 9, 2018

They are trying to wind up Mordy in Stalybridge today!

full communism and sky sports at the stalybridge labour club, nice work lads

"a tankard of ale, please"

"what did you just call me?"

ahahahaha

my guess wd have been gibson square -- famous for being the start or end point of the first route you learn in THE KNOWLEDGE, the map that london cabbies had to internalise -- which is one south from milner

(the upper layer of windows is wrong for gibson tho)

lol calzino

Meanwhile:

Suspect package is understood to have been sent to Mohammad Yasin, Labour MP for Bedford. Police thought to be concerned it is linked to a series of recent threatening letters to Muslims. Two taken to hospital as a precaution

— Henry Zeffman (@hzeffman) March 12, 2018

The Russian on the today programme this morning was extraordinary:

http://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vitaly-milonov-britain-hitler_uk_5aa79253e4b009b705d5c112

no Shakespeare cockroach no credibility

bunch of my leftist friends running non-stop "Sergei Skripal is a Tory false flag operation" bits on Facebook, i think i might stop caring about politics

couldn't be the tories, i don't think they have any skripals

giving the tories way too much credit tbh

Piss up / brewery etc

i know it's funny but i find it pretty depressing. these are intelligent people and they're totally in the shouty hysterical meme bubble. i can't even understand people on the left with this weird defensiveness about Putin and RT and the rest, "my enemy's enemy" taken to this insane paranoid bullshit mirror-image of the alt right level. i like my friends but i think i'm gonna have to block about 6 people's posts from ever being visible again.

I was thinking this might allow May to look strong for a couple of news cycles, and then with all sorts of potentially damaging risk and uncertainty as it unfolds. Especially with May's track record of being such a dynamic leader and the possibility of more intra-party squabbling over the response. A total zed minus of a false flag conspiracy then.

don't mind me i'm just building myself up to leaving the internet forever, gotta stoke the flames.

i can't even understand people on the left with this weird defensiveness about Putin and RT and the rest, "my enemy's enemy" taken to this insane paranoid bullshit mirror-image of the alt right level

Yeah, it's a real cause for concern. I mentioned previously on this thread that a lot of ppl my age who're naive w/ good leftist tendencies have fallen for RT's Brave Critics of the West shtick and are now p much indoctrinated (Sharivari I believe made the point that RT hasn't been overtly pro-Putin for a while and I certainly don't check it enough to deny that - but ppl who read a lot of it do seem to invariably come out of it with a "yay putin" mindset).

Re the recent Putin doc, if this does not put those segments of the hard left off him, I’m not sure what will:

Having watched the whole thing, can report that it is worth watching if only for Jack Straw saying that Blair and Putin got on well because they’re so similar. https://t.co/K1q2YzpEZT

— Will Davies (@davies_will) March 14, 2018

Delighted to say I don't know any pro-Putin idiots.

a - professor - friend of mine posted some stuff about Agent Orange during the Vietnam War like this was a serious counter-argument to mystery nerve gas attacks

ask them if george galloway has hacked their account.

I get the impulse to highlight atrocities committed by Our Guys because they're less in the public conciousness but when your reaction to any nasty shit not done by the USA/UK is to whataboutery you're no longer helping anything.

You'd think the fact that they're cheering for the same guy the alt-right cheers for would be some cause for reflection but nah.

maybe think of it in terms of nanostupidity eventually converting all thought into grey goo

I’m obviously deep in the rabbit hole but this stuff is so interesting and so wide-ranging in the areas it touches on, it’s dispiriting to see people in the pro and anti-Russia camps abandoning any intellectual curiosity about what is going on, and what anything means, in favour of cartoon preconceptions and regurgitating talking points.

"everything is terrible" is the correct default position

ppl need to watch more Zvyagintsev movies, I'm only being semi-facetious here because they might remind ppl that other countries are made up of ppl like them!

vile propaganda, everyone knows that furriners are disgusting savages who would stab their granny for the chance to eat an english baby

lol I took my mother to Russia last year and one of her main takeaways was ‘the people are so normal!’.

Sting was right then?

yes, the lute is an unjustly overlooked instrument in the rock canon

I’m obviously deep in the rabbit hole but this stuff is so interesting and so wide-ranging in the areas it touches on, it’s dispiriting to see people in the pro and anti-Russia camps abandoning any intellectual curiosity about what is going on, and what anything means, in favour of cartoon preconceptions and regurgitating talking points.

this, basically. but it's very, very, very dispiriting.

I know a few derp hippies who are vehement conspiracy theorists and they’re all very ‘happy’ until someone says they’re wrong, at which point they start throwing around personal abuse between fake newsings and false flaggings. And yes, they’re all white....

here's looking forward to two sequels to Ready Player One, Ready Player One: Tron and Ready Player One: do you remember the 1980s?

doh wrong thread sorry

I think the combination of fanfic narratives and eighties nostalgia is still pretty on-topic tbf.

ha, otm

yeah i was gonna say earlier this whole "my Russia right or wrong" thing has an 80s throwback vibe

I know a few derp hippies who are vehement conspiracy theorists and they’re all very ‘happy’ until someone says they’re wrong, at which point they start throwing around personal abuse between fake newsings and false flaggings

lol this reminds me of a Krishna consciousness type dude who got very uncool very quickly with me and a friend one day when we turned down his pamphlet

What do you think about this from Craig Murray?

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/russian-to-judgement

Oh no, not Craig Murray now.

― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 08:30 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't trust intelligence services = yeah sure
something something Establishment trying to get Donald Trump = oh god i just don't care any more

I think Rod Hull was done in by the MFI!

I was having a conversation with a highfalutin general practitioner type about this last week and she started going on about the British secret services assassinating princess Di.

and yet fergie still lives, wtf

you can't fuck with members of The Black Hand Eyed Peas!

Up Against the Wall Toesucker