the alt-right

ok how the fuck is Jessica Parrot a real name?

https://s1.thcdn.com/productimg/960/960/11539264-7294512067807017.jpg

The arrest followed a bizarre sequence of events stemming from an extramarital affair Heimbach was conducting with his wife’s step-mother-in-law, according to the police report.

The white nationalist leader is married to the step-daughter of Matt Parrott, the Traditionalist Worker Party’s chief spokesman. Per the police report, Heimbach attacked both Parrott and his own wife, Brooke Heimbach, after the pair confronted Matthew Heimbach about an affair he was carrying out with Matt Parrott’s wife, Jessica.

The group all live in the same trailer park compound in rural Paoli, Indiana, where the Traditionalist Worker Party is based. In statements to the police, all four listed their professions as “white nationalists.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/matthew-heimbach-police-report-domestic-battery-affair

better days https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/alt-right-national-socialist-movement-white-supremacy.html

that poor kid

Thread on the possible evolution of alt-right/fash groups in the wake of recent failures:

I hope I’m not boring anyone with this Generation Identity nonsense, I believe it’s coming our way, and regardless of its impact we should study the games crypto-fascist movements play. https://t.co/cVoR1ewIJY

— zerf 🐑🐑🐑 herder (@hfricken) March 12, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/opinion/sunday/youtube-politics-radical.html

this sorta seems relevant

― gbx

i installed a plugin to keep youtube from recommending videos to me years ago. it kept recommending me white supremacist videos whenever i would watch classical music videos or video game speedruns.

i think the world would be well-served if governments would install a plugin to keep youtube from recommending videos to their citizens.

i know that's proto-fascist of me but i am just so fed up today with human beings' utter inability to think critically that i'm trying to have all ideas banned. (yesterday i was trying to have time outlawed.)

it kept recommending me white supremacist videos whenever i would watch classical music videos or video game speedruns.

lmao what else were you watching

The group all live in the same trailer park compound in rural Paoli, Indiana, where the Traditionalist Worker Party is based. In statements to the police, all four listed their professions as “white nationalists.”

trenchant commentary bait if ever there was

lmao what else were you watching

One way to get those into your recommended feed is to watch videos debunking/calling to action against white nationalism. This happened to me with MRAs - watch a couple of videos by feminist YouTubers and suddenly your recommendation feed is nothing but "this man DEMOLISHES feminism with flawless logic".

they all started popping up in mine after i google "toilet seat"

Zeynep Tufekci wrote about this in the Times last week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/opinion/sunday/youtube-politics-radical.html

Whoops sorry about the double post.

But yeah YouTube recommendations are a tire fire. I nix any that aren't hard rock or R&B videos because I get enough crazy conspiracy mongering from the comments section of the one gossip blog I read. (Those people are still banging on about The St*rm—they think that Trump's bungling is actually a front to take down a worldwide network of sexual predators. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking depressingly frightening.)

Thousands of sealed indictments! Millions of them!

maura's last sentence covers the whole state of "ideas" on the internet in 2018

it kept recommending me white supremacist videos whenever i would watch classical music videos or video game speedruns.

lmao what else were you watching

"Wagner, Max, Wagner - so I know what he's really tryin' to tell me very significantly. Wagner."

One way to get those into your recommended feed is to watch videos debunking/calling to action against white nationalism. This happened to me with MRAs - watch a couple of videos by feminist YouTubers and suddenly your recommendation feed is nothing but "this man DEMOLISHES feminism with flawless logic".

^^^^ this

Any clip from a mafia movie or tv show of any reasonable quality has alt-right creeps j'ing each other off in the comments as well.

Surprise, these guys are all horrible creeps

https://www.thedailybeast.com/alt-right-youtuber-accused-of-luring-autistic-teen-in-pregnancy-plot?ref=home

Will Sommer’s been doing good work tracking these guys.
Things got weirder when Reddit banned the Qanon subreddit.

The QAnon voice chat is all middle-aged people trying to figure out "how to use memes." Says one: "I STILL can't find the memes."

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 14, 2018

oh god a qanon-themed voice chat? that sounds like literal hell

I, too, STILL can't find the memes.

Will Sommer is a hero, that's for sure.

thats v good

Nathan Robinson wrote a mocking the guy pretty hard so Jordan P naturally posted a freakout thread about it:

Very critical article by @NathanJRobinson of my work (including Maps of Meaning) in Current Affairs (https://t.co/AVpRVDs43A) is accompanied most hilariously by this ad... pic.twitter.com/4Ly0pdW25S

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 16, 2018

A mocking post, rather

Nathan J Robinson presumably ready and waiting for the attack dogs

maybe he becomes a cult figure too, the Adversary

Paoli, Indiana is the middle of nowhere. It's a nice little farm town that has a town center out of Mayberry, mostly known for a place where you can ski (believe it or not). It's about 1/2 way between Bloomington and Louisville. I'd figure it has to be pretty tore up by heroin probably like much of this area of the country.

Says one: "I STILL can't find the memes."

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 14, 2018

thereby instantly transforming himself into a meme

Paoli, Indiana is the middle of nowhere. It's a nice little farm town that has a town center out of Mayberry, mostly known for a place where you can ski (believe it or not). It's about 1/2 way between Bloomington and Louisville. I'd figure it has to be pretty tore up by heroin probably like much of this area of the country.

― earlnash

however, it's hard to confirm this because of the difficulty of finding anybody who would willingly travel to small-town indiana

I frikkin love Nathan Robinson

Yeah, the tweet from JP is hilarious in context. He clearly doesn't know what the book is.

my fav part of the article is the list of JP quotes he just starts riffing on

“There is no being without imperfection.” No shit.

“The future is the place of all potential monsters.” The future is the place for all potential everything.

“People do not care whether or not they succeed; they care about whether or not they fail.” Which is apparently different.

“People aren’t after happiness, they’re after not hurting.” I’m actually after happiness, thanks.

“You cannot be protected from the things that frighten you and hurt you, but if you identify with the part of your being that is responsible for transformation, then you are always the equal, or more than the equal of the things that frighten you.” Unless you are frightened of leopards, and are subsequently eaten by leopards.

i totally havent been paying attention to JP, i forgot he was the toronto guy who was acting all shitty over trans ppl wanting to be called by their actual pronouns, hahaahaaaaa of course the alt right loves him

however, it's hard to confirm this because of the difficulty of finding anybody who would willingly travel to small-town indiana

― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, March 16, 2018 7:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like indiana...

But here I am already giving Peterson’s work a more coherent summary than it actually deserves. And after all, if “many human stories have common moral lessons” was his point, he would have been saying something so obvious that nobody would think to credit it as a novel insight.

This was my takeaway from trying to read Nassim Taleb's book - who is not quite as deeply connected to the alt-right as Peterson but definitely adjacent

i like indiana...

― flappy bird

sorry, i'm an ex-hoosier as of last year, for a while i'll have the same opinions on indiana as a recent ex-catholic has on catholicism

exterminate! fake news! MAGA! exterminate! exterminate!

That Robinson article, good stuff

There's always a fatal flaw when "white supremacist" and "intellectual leader" comes together.

It's like saying you're the lead particle physicist for the local sewage treatment plant. https://t.co/bjWyhI5C1O

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) March 18, 2018

Lol truth. There are no clever racists

This is a decent article (warning: link takes you to The Intercept)

A fun review of JP’s book, with an assist from Shuja Haider:

https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-194-fck-12-feat-shuja-haider-and-elon-musk-31818

Lol truth. There are no clever racists

yeah i find that so dumb. some really smart people are racist.

william d hamilton was a smart guy.

he wrote this

"it seems to me one of the most paradoxical of all the many impacts Judaism has had on the present world that it is the cousins (at least in a broad ethnic sense) of the very people who claim, on the authority of ancient writings, a right to deprive other Middle Easterners of their land and freedom, who generate from among their intellectuals the arguments that convince the rest of us that panhumanism is a worthy ideal and that the course that follows from it is Homo's best hope for the future. A long list of examples could easily be given: I could start, for example, with Karl Popper and his book The Open Society and Its Enemies and I could end with books of Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould. It seems to be particularly these men of Jewish origin (not, however, orthodox followers of the faith as a rule) who seek to persuade us that race differences are non-existent and everyone can mate with everyone in confidence of equally capable children."

some really smart people are racist.

This is true. But professional racists (people who have made their racism the core of their public identity—Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al.) are all dumb as shit.

racism is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer

racism religion is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist religious beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer