Democratic (Party) Direction

Justice Dems continuing to do sweet work

he's a lunatic one-note.

We put up with Frederik B and Morbius just fine.

he will never engage with the actual conversation that's going on except to pooh-pooh its relevance...and disdain the intelligence or reading comprehension of those involved.

See above.

Is MV my favorite political poster? No. But is he dragging down the forum as a whole? Fuck no. I get that the only votes the system allows for are negative votes - you can either vote to ban someone, or say nothing at all - but I am decidedly pro-MV and would press a button to indicate as much, if there was a button to press.

i'm a multi-note lunatic, you cur!

xp. fp'd you for this

fred b is a good comparison because imho he has been displaying far more notes and efforts at collegiality since he came back from being banned, whereas gabbneb has been visibly getting worse with each incarnation. unless moo v is actually somebody's gabbo sock, in which case, damn, nice job.

he spell-checked my post reporting that i lost my home in a fire, which really didn't bother me initially, but after somebody else pointed it out i was kinda like, yeah wtf that's sorta weird.

― lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Friday, March 16, 2018 7:49 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you for your notes about the direction of the Democratic Party. My intent was in no small part to help you and company avoid the chance of giving offense to a local official who might be helpful to your efforts (to which I might contribute myself if I were gainfully employed atm), but a minor needle at a guy who has no compunctions about being a fucking dickhead to someone you don't even know, wouldn't concern yourself in the slightest with their personal circumstances, and feels the need to convert the more-offhanded-than-it-appears mounting of evidence in service of one among numerous notions essayed for testing by fire of poorer quality or faith than one might hope into an all-consuming idee fixe didn't hurt, no. You can handle it just as much as you think I can.

i think it'd be cool if we didn't throw around the word lunatic at people here

that's fair. i apologize and retract that part.

:)

Moo, that second sentence kind of got away from you.

i'm a multi-note lunatic, you cur!

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), 16. marts 2018 20:57 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag PostPermalink

Ah shit, I had the exact same reaction.

IL Dems what up

Madigan’s campaign committee has spent nearly $19,000 on mailers attacking two Our Revolution-backed candidates in State Central Democratic Committee elections, Elizabeth Lindquist and Art Bardsley. The postcards say Lindquist and Bardsley are Trump supporters and “members of a group supported by Tea Party activists.” The group referenced by the mailers is Represent.Us, an anti-corruption group that brings together people from all sides of the political spectrum.

The attack comes as the Illinois machine faces one of its most credible assaults in a generation, with Madigan ally Rep. Daniel Lipinski facing a primary challenge from Marie Newman, a progressive, pro-choice advocate who is now neck in neck with him in the polls. And in Chicago, a populist-reformer is going right at the heart of the machine, targeting the pol in charge of Cook County’s tax assessment, a key source of power for the state party bosses.

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/illinois-democratic-party-michael-madigan-mailers/

I should never read comments on Intercept posts.

I should never read comments on Intercept posts

This answer to the below posed question seems so simple, but can the Dems do it:

The latest entry in this ongoing debate pits liberal think-tanker Sean McElwee and three political scientists, who argue that the Democratic Party can retake the White House by courting the predominantly young and black former Obama voters who stayed home in 2016, against New York Times election expert Nate Cohn, who argues that the Democrats must instead win back the blue-collar whites who flipped from Obama to Trump.

But the respective paths laid out by McElwee et al. and Cohn aren’t mutually exclusive. The way out of the Gordian Knot of identity politics versus class politics is to take intersectionality seriously. Instead of pitting voters of color against white working-class voters in an imaginary election, Democrats should target their policy proposals and political appeals to voters who bridge the gap: the black working class.

Reaching this predominantly young and disaffected group will mean ignoring calls for Democrats to tone down the party’s newfound commitment to social justice. It’ll also mean embracing the type of full-throated economic populism that the party has shied away from ever since its post-McGovern “neoliberal” turn. The one thing Democrats must not do is continue moderating their party’s message, especially on economics, in the hope that upscale whites will save them.

-writer Josh Mound
https://newrepublic.com/article/147467/resolving-democrats-false-choice

"The latest entry in this ongoing debate pits liberal think-tanker Sean McElwee and three political scientists, who argue that the Democratic Party can retake the White House by courting the predominantly young and black former Obama voters who stayed home in 2016, against New York Times election expert Nate Cohn, who argues that the Democrats must instead win back the blue-collar whites who flipped from Obama to Trump."

Where have I heard this before? Oh right.

"But the respective paths laid out by McElwee et al. and Cohn aren’t mutually exclusive. The way out of the Gordian Knot of identity politics versus class politics is to take intersectionality seriously. Instead of pitting voters of color against white working-class voters in an imaginary election, Democrats should target their policy proposals and political appeals to voters who bridge the gap: the black working class."

Why haven't I heard this before? Oh right.

I should never read comments on Intercept posts.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 17. marts 2018 22:32 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should never read comments on Intercept posts

― Simon H., 17. marts 2018 22:37 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should never read comments on Intercept posts.

Good news for gabbneb

People who mark "Black" for their race on the 2020 census will be asked about their origins. https://t.co/FQSUJKBKlG

— NPR (@NPR) March 17, 2018

I’m definitely going black for the 2020 census

I wonder if Obama will come clean and admit he's German?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ehoomjQjfI

i wonder if obama will come clean and tell the nation everything he knows that's germane to donald trump's treason

That’s asked and answered already imo

i don't think he'll ever admit he's german

tbf the GOP has already done that work by casting aspersions on his german ancestry for years - those endless "clingink zu zheir guns und religions" impressions, all the memes photoshopping him into oompah bands etc. etc. and that was even after the white house officially released the table of ancestry through wikipedia and gabbneb. kinda weird that nobody ever attempted to make a comedy meme out of trump's own german heritage or his family's original name but that just goes to show you how deeply run the deep and enduring divisions between german-americans east and west of the pittsburgh coal seam.

east west germans? cold war never ended, did it comrades?

deep extended lols at that doc casino post

he spell-checked my post reporting that i lost my home in a fire, which really didn't bother me initially, but after somebody else pointed it out i was kinda like, yeah wtf that's sorta weird.

― lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Friday, March 16, 2018 7:49 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you for your notes about the direction of the Democratic Party. My intent was in no small part to help you and company avoid the chance of giving offense to a local official who might be helpful to your efforts (to which I might contribute myself if I were gainfully employed atm), but a minor needle at a guy who has no compunctions about being a fucking dickhead to someone you don't even know, wouldn't concern yourself in the slightest with their personal circumstances, and feels the need to convert the more-offhanded-than-it-appears mounting of evidence in service of one among numerous notions essayed for testing by fire of poorer quality or faith than one might hope into an all-consuming idee fixe didn't hurt, no. You can handle it just as much as you think I can.

― Moo Vaughn, Friday, March 16, 2018 4:04 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also i finally got around to reading this post and i have no idea what the hell you're trying to say. if you were sincere in trying to help with the spelling correction, there are polite ways of doing it. the rest is one of the most incomprehensible things i've ever read on ilx but the best i can tell is you're calling someone a "fucking dickhead" - me? the guy running the fundraiser? the councilman with the misspelled name? - and suggesting, i think, that you expressed a degree of sympathy for my situation that i wouldn't for somebody else which is a pretty low thing to assert when all i've done to you is clown you for your relentless posting style and cockamamie theories on politics. that's my best guess anyway.

also "testing by fire" not the phrase i would have gone for there tbh but like a certain little engine, i can handle it just as much as i think i can. please delete your account.

Democratic (Party) Direction Thread (Direction)

where's the tax returns?

ARE.

THEY ARE AT WHERE

GENTLEMEN MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE AT WHERE

Buried in this NYT article on Conor Lamb is confirmation that the DCCC "aggressively recruited" Clarke Tucker to run against progressive campaign finance reformer Paul Spencer in Arkansas' second district. https://t.co/nMhchIdoth pic.twitter.com/tIq1fxEj3a

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) March 18, 2018

I love New York, and today I'm announcing my candidacy for governor. Join us: https://t.co/9DwsxWW8xX pic.twitter.com/kYTvx6GZiD

— Cynthia Nixon (@CynthiaNixon) March 19, 2018

I was impressed by that speech she gave someone posted here maybe two weeks ago. Just initially wary of anyone who hasn’t held office running for something that big.

Not an ideal candidate, perhaps, but she has been quite active, and Prince Andy is the worst kind of non-convicted pol.

Thinking of watching Tanner 88

Actress delivers speech; onlookers impressed.

sounds better than the horrid squawk of Cuomo for starters

Xpost It wasn’t just the delivery of the speech, something felt distinctive and confident in content/message

I'm curious enough to want to hear more about her ideas for ending mass incarceration and tacking inequality, and who she's working with to craft those strategies. Right now all we have is a nice speech and a nice video.

already better than cuomo

she's already netted one major endorsement

Cynthia Nixon may run for Gov of NY. She has collaborated with Israel haters Jewish Voice for Peace and Vanessa Redgrave in boycotting Israel. Do not support her bigotry.

— Alan Dershowitz (@AlanDersh) March 17, 2018

i love when guys like dershowitz have to use the transparently hilarious words "israel-haters Jewish Voice for Peace"

From day one, Dem Gov. Andrew Cuomo has enabled GOP control of the state Senate in deep-blue New York by signing their extreme gerrymander & protecting a caucus of Dem defectors who side with the GOP. It's time he faces consequences for blocking a slew of progressive policies https://t.co/XnwpFqTBsq

— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) March 19, 2018

Ryan Cooper posted a worthwhile thing:

http://theweek.com/articles/760739/how-democrats-wipe-gop-fix-america

Below, I will outline a draft platform that would both accomplish worthy goals and provide political benefits. Since the conventional wisdom on political feasibility and popularity has proved to be highly unreliable of late (see: President Donald J. Trump), I have focused on things that will provide immediate and concrete partisan benefits, while strengthening democratic liberties. The ideas are grouped under three headings: political reform, domestic policy, and foreign policy. Let's get cracking.

1. Make Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., states.

It's just that easy!

I like it, but it's missing anything on campaign finance reform.

xp

Also, just skimming it, does that article address the future GOP minority reverting to their role as an aggressively obstructionist party? This is a group of assholes so adept at being assholes they successful kept Obama from appointing a SC justice.