Democratic (Party) Direction

This answer to the below posed question seems so simple, but can the Dems do it:

The latest entry in this ongoing debate pits liberal think-tanker Sean McElwee and three political scientists, who argue that the Democratic Party can retake the White House by courting the predominantly young and black former Obama voters who stayed home in 2016, against New York Times election expert Nate Cohn, who argues that the Democrats must instead win back the blue-collar whites who flipped from Obama to Trump.

But the respective paths laid out by McElwee et al. and Cohn aren’t mutually exclusive. The way out of the Gordian Knot of identity politics versus class politics is to take intersectionality seriously. Instead of pitting voters of color against white working-class voters in an imaginary election, Democrats should target their policy proposals and political appeals to voters who bridge the gap: the black working class.

Reaching this predominantly young and disaffected group will mean ignoring calls for Democrats to tone down the party’s newfound commitment to social justice. It’ll also mean embracing the type of full-throated economic populism that the party has shied away from ever since its post-McGovern “neoliberal” turn. The one thing Democrats must not do is continue moderating their party’s message, especially on economics, in the hope that upscale whites will save them.

-writer Josh Mound
https://newrepublic.com/article/147467/resolving-democrats-false-choice

"The latest entry in this ongoing debate pits liberal think-tanker Sean McElwee and three political scientists, who argue that the Democratic Party can retake the White House by courting the predominantly young and black former Obama voters who stayed home in 2016, against New York Times election expert Nate Cohn, who argues that the Democrats must instead win back the blue-collar whites who flipped from Obama to Trump."

Where have I heard this before? Oh right.

"But the respective paths laid out by McElwee et al. and Cohn aren’t mutually exclusive. The way out of the Gordian Knot of identity politics versus class politics is to take intersectionality seriously. Instead of pitting voters of color against white working-class voters in an imaginary election, Democrats should target their policy proposals and political appeals to voters who bridge the gap: the black working class."

Why haven't I heard this before? Oh right.

I should never read comments on Intercept posts.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 17. marts 2018 22:32 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should never read comments on Intercept posts

― Simon H., 17. marts 2018 22:37 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should never read comments on Intercept posts.

Good news for gabbneb

People who mark "Black" for their race on the 2020 census will be asked about their origins. https://t.co/FQSUJKBKlG

— NPR (@NPR) March 17, 2018

I’m definitely going black for the 2020 census

I wonder if Obama will come clean and admit he's German?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ehoomjQjfI

i wonder if obama will come clean and tell the nation everything he knows that's germane to donald trump's treason

That’s asked and answered already imo

i don't think he'll ever admit he's german

tbf the GOP has already done that work by casting aspersions on his german ancestry for years - those endless "clingink zu zheir guns und religions" impressions, all the memes photoshopping him into oompah bands etc. etc. and that was even after the white house officially released the table of ancestry through wikipedia and gabbneb. kinda weird that nobody ever attempted to make a comedy meme out of trump's own german heritage or his family's original name but that just goes to show you how deeply run the deep and enduring divisions between german-americans east and west of the pittsburgh coal seam.

east west germans? cold war never ended, did it comrades?

deep extended lols at that doc casino post

he spell-checked my post reporting that i lost my home in a fire, which really didn't bother me initially, but after somebody else pointed it out i was kinda like, yeah wtf that's sorta weird.

― lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Friday, March 16, 2018 7:49 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you for your notes about the direction of the Democratic Party. My intent was in no small part to help you and company avoid the chance of giving offense to a local official who might be helpful to your efforts (to which I might contribute myself if I were gainfully employed atm), but a minor needle at a guy who has no compunctions about being a fucking dickhead to someone you don't even know, wouldn't concern yourself in the slightest with their personal circumstances, and feels the need to convert the more-offhanded-than-it-appears mounting of evidence in service of one among numerous notions essayed for testing by fire of poorer quality or faith than one might hope into an all-consuming idee fixe didn't hurt, no. You can handle it just as much as you think I can.

― Moo Vaughn, Friday, March 16, 2018 4:04 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also i finally got around to reading this post and i have no idea what the hell you're trying to say. if you were sincere in trying to help with the spelling correction, there are polite ways of doing it. the rest is one of the most incomprehensible things i've ever read on ilx but the best i can tell is you're calling someone a "fucking dickhead" - me? the guy running the fundraiser? the councilman with the misspelled name? - and suggesting, i think, that you expressed a degree of sympathy for my situation that i wouldn't for somebody else which is a pretty low thing to assert when all i've done to you is clown you for your relentless posting style and cockamamie theories on politics. that's my best guess anyway.

also "testing by fire" not the phrase i would have gone for there tbh but like a certain little engine, i can handle it just as much as i think i can. please delete your account.

Democratic (Party) Direction Thread (Direction)

where's the tax returns?

ARE.

THEY ARE AT WHERE

GENTLEMEN MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE AT WHERE

Buried in this NYT article on Conor Lamb is confirmation that the DCCC "aggressively recruited" Clarke Tucker to run against progressive campaign finance reformer Paul Spencer in Arkansas' second district. https://t.co/nMhchIdoth pic.twitter.com/tIq1fxEj3a

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) March 18, 2018

I love New York, and today I'm announcing my candidacy for governor. Join us: https://t.co/9DwsxWW8xX pic.twitter.com/kYTvx6GZiD

— Cynthia Nixon (@CynthiaNixon) March 19, 2018

I was impressed by that speech she gave someone posted here maybe two weeks ago. Just initially wary of anyone who hasn’t held office running for something that big.

Not an ideal candidate, perhaps, but she has been quite active, and Prince Andy is the worst kind of non-convicted pol.

Thinking of watching Tanner 88

Actress delivers speech; onlookers impressed.

sounds better than the horrid squawk of Cuomo for starters

Xpost It wasn’t just the delivery of the speech, something felt distinctive and confident in content/message

I'm curious enough to want to hear more about her ideas for ending mass incarceration and tacking inequality, and who she's working with to craft those strategies. Right now all we have is a nice speech and a nice video.

already better than cuomo

she's already netted one major endorsement

Cynthia Nixon may run for Gov of NY. She has collaborated with Israel haters Jewish Voice for Peace and Vanessa Redgrave in boycotting Israel. Do not support her bigotry.

— Alan Dershowitz (@AlanDersh) March 17, 2018

i love when guys like dershowitz have to use the transparently hilarious words "israel-haters Jewish Voice for Peace"

From day one, Dem Gov. Andrew Cuomo has enabled GOP control of the state Senate in deep-blue New York by signing their extreme gerrymander & protecting a caucus of Dem defectors who side with the GOP. It's time he faces consequences for blocking a slew of progressive policies https://t.co/XnwpFqTBsq

— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) March 19, 2018

Ryan Cooper posted a worthwhile thing:

http://theweek.com/articles/760739/how-democrats-wipe-gop-fix-america

Below, I will outline a draft platform that would both accomplish worthy goals and provide political benefits. Since the conventional wisdom on political feasibility and popularity has proved to be highly unreliable of late (see: President Donald J. Trump), I have focused on things that will provide immediate and concrete partisan benefits, while strengthening democratic liberties. The ideas are grouped under three headings: political reform, domestic policy, and foreign policy. Let's get cracking.

1. Make Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., states.

It's just that easy!

I like it, but it's missing anything on campaign finance reform.

xp

Also, just skimming it, does that article address the future GOP minority reverting to their role as an aggressively obstructionist party? This is a group of assholes so adept at being assholes they successful kept Obama from appointing a SC justice.

I don't understand why go to the constitutional trouble of giving PR and DC statehood and leave out AS, Guam, USVI and the Marianas. That always annoys me.

The language on Nixon's website about Cuomo is MUCH much sharper than that gauzy rollout video. This is going to be an aggressive campaign pic.twitter.com/oUOd6Xtx6u

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) March 19, 2018

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sen-kirsten-gilibrand-endorsing-gov-cuomo-primary-article-1.3886574?cid=bitly

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/17/behind-the-dodd-frank-freakout-217645

no signs of bias there right from the URL lol

The bill’s Democratic defenders believe it’s pretty good, especially for a piece of Trump-era legislation. But they believe with more conviction that it’s an excellent way to satisfy a powerful industry’s pent-up demand for deregulation without serious damage to financial oversight. Congress tends to pass only one major banking bill a decade, and the Crapo bill, they argue, is a relatively harmless way to mollify the influential community bankers and signal a willingness to work across the aisle while preserving most of Dodd-Frank as the status quo. They’re incredibly frustrated that arcane disputes over “SIFI’s” and “HMDA” and “FSOC”—don’t ask—could end up fracturing a party that needs unity to fight Trump and take back Congress.

“Are we really going to kill each other over a carve-out in the supplemental leverage ratios for predominantly custodial banks?” an aide to a moderate Senate Democrat complained. “Right now, there are bigger threats to the world.”

yeah pardon me if I see red flags littered all over the language used throughout this piece

an excellent way to satisfy a powerful industry’s pent-up demand

well that's that then

--don't ask--

no signs of bias there right from the URL lol

― Simon H., Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:18 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You, otoh, are utterly lacking in bias

if you're not at the very least profoundly skeptical of financial deregulation efforts then uhh idk enjoy the next crash I guess

The Democrats who support the Senate bill all voted for Dodd-Frank. They argue that bipartisan buy-in for modest adjustments to Obama’s Wall Street reforms would essentially enshrine their permanence, something they’ve tried but failed to do for Obama’s health care law.

Not all these people are morons - some are grifters, many are both.

they believe with more conviction

as dean baker never tires of pointing out, this is bad reporting: we don't know what they actually believe, much less with what degree of conviction. we know what they say, and what they do, that's it. i mean thank goodness politico is here to tell us what these democrats really "believe" otherwise we might think they were actually interested in cosying up to the sources of potential campaign contributions

Thoughts about Illinois? Lipinski seems to have won :(

idk guys but if a literal Nazi had run unopposed as a Democrat and won - even in a safe/ uncontested GOP stronghold - i feel like i'd hear a lot more about it.

from the GOP/FOX/RW mediaverse something along the lines of "All Democrats Are Literal Nazis", and then very serious "both sides" people would be writing in newspapers/on the internet and saying on TV very serious things about how Democrats have really got to deal with this ascendant Nazi problem

good mourning!