the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Ditum, Lewis et al are useful illustrations of the often missed middle steps between “having a cause” and “full blown fanaticism”. Have they had anything to say about people like Dawn Foster getting violent rape threats from anti-trans activists, does anyone know?

Meanwhile, the last polls I saw had Labour with an 18 point lead with women. It tells a lot that the proposal to amend the GRA comes from the Tories, but they’re targeting Labour.

gyac, Monday, 19 March 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

They also loooooove dogwhistling about the “hard left” which is consistently portrayed by them as a monolith who never disagree or argue. Goes without saying that this crowd loves their tone arguments. If anything it’s an amorphous alliance of diverse causes and people - whereas #fbpe and #labourlosingwomen are incredibly white and middle-class.

gyac, Monday, 19 March 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

Owned on and offline:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/dawn-butler-spoiled-one-of-the-best-days-of-my-life/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

really just for amazing headline

plax (ico), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

Young ruined his own day by not having the courage to defend his own vile shtick, and knowing he would have been completely owned in a public place if he had dared say shit! I wish his day had been truly ruined, like some offensive chant about daddy making his brat cry or something.

calzino, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

QPR have some vile fans. Apart from m.i.a. ILXer RTC of course.

calzino, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

I mean fwiw if I was in Young's position, believing I was right, I too think not making a scene about this at a footie thing honoring my kid would be the right thing to do.

Writing an article afterwards bragging about it, not so much.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

true, but if he wasn't such an inflammatory type of controv-merchant, playing to the gallery most of the time. He might not have a paranoia about getting his arse kicked in irl situations. Tbh, if he had just gone out there with the brat, Dawn would have probably kept it civil.

calzino, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

Absolutely phenomenal: Neil Hamilton has complained that the BBC only found anti-Brexit school kids for a feature, and the 9-year old children "gave childish answers" pic.twitter.com/39hudRyYrW

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) March 20, 2018

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

This generation are #Uber-riding #Airbnb-ing #Deliveroo-eating #freedomfighters

— Elizabeth Truss (@trussliz) March 19, 2018


I think Elizabeth Truss has been glue sniffing today as well.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

QPR

QPR

QP Ahahahahahaha

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

ur not meant to eat the deliveroo

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

Tweet hasn't exactly gone down to well, judging by the replies.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

Good timing, uber have just killed someone with their self driving cars

— Liam Doyle (@Doyle_liam) March 19, 2018

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

luv2enjoy the freedom of precarious employment with tech giants who will make me redundant as soon as robot can replace me

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

don't understand how Deliveroo can exploit their employees so much and still be more expensive than getting a taxi to the takeaway and back

― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:50 (eleven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

I think I'd rather deliver a poo tbh.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

deliveroo don't deliver to my blasted hellscape of a neighbourhood despite delivering to most of the rest of the city of glasgow so they can go fuck themselves imo

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

round here they cost a fortune before you even get to the delivery charges

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

there is a follow up piece in the local rag today about all the local fast food outlets that got zero stars on their hygiene cert last year, and how some of them have improved + have a few stars now + some have 1! At least my fave pizza/kebad dive has 4 stars, but I like the garish colours + scruffy charm of the place and always eat in there tbh. You can get a hell of a good 14" Mexicano for a fiver. Fuck all this expensive delivery malarkey that supports the godawful gig economy.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

deliveroo don't deliver to my blasted hellscape of a neighbourhood despite delivering to most of the rest of the city of glasgow so they can go fuck themselves imo

Deliveroo don't deliver to my neighbourhood either but I often see Deliveroo riders going through the area

at first I thought some people had found a loophole in their postcode checking system but then I realised it's just that I live where Deliveroo riders can afford to live

(well, marginally more so than other parts of town, anyway)

(they also used to have Deliveroo ads on the bus stops in my area even though we're out of range, which was somewhat annoying; maybe less annoying now I can enjoy the thought of Deliveroo Corp wasting advertising money)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

delivery is handy if you're hungry and there's no food in the house and you can't go outside because depressed/hungover/all of the above. but Deliveroo suck yes.

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

My one experience of ordering through Deliveroo ended up with a pizza that had shaken around so much in the box it had turned into itself and resembled a shapeless pile of slop. Tasted alright but fuck that even without the rent-a-slave startup asepct.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

One of the worst things was them adding the tip to the payment screen, as if the drivers are getting that.

gyac, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

They do that at Pizza Hut as well, it is scummy as fuck.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

I have no idea if Deliveroo deliver to my house/area or not.

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

I'd never heard of them before today tbh. Good job Liz Truss has her finger pulse/is down with kids.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

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Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

Conservative commitment to the ratio remains strong.

gyac, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

Deliveroo stole my favourite pizza takeaway (Bianco43, which I'm confident is the one Matt's talking about). It delivered to outer Charlton in the Just Eat days but now it's just the mean streets of Blackheath

imago, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

I'd never heard of them before today tbh

Ditto.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

the idle deliveroo driver is a fixture of british cities these days

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

you must have seen them. they ride bikes and have 18" cube backpacks.

DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

there are so many of their bikers zipping carelessly around glasgow at the moment that i'm probably going to be killed by one sometime in the next six months

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

they don't kill in your area.

DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

Bianco43, which I'm confident is the one Matt's talking about

Bingo. TBH it's not worth bothering with compared to the vastly superior delights of Luciano's Pizza in Lee but they're probably out of your catchment area.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

they're 3m walk from my parents' - you'd better believe I've eaten there!

imago, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

I have a fr*end who used to work for Deliveroo, helped the push to get them unionized and stuff. He told me once he got an order from some banker type in Canary Wharf who ordered kebabs from a bog standard shop that was as far away from him as the service permitted. Nostalgia for the South London street he'd left behind, genuine sadism or just someone who doesn't know how to use the app?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Two Labour councillors in Nottinghamshire have quit the party and joined the Conservatives.

Chris Baron and Lee Anderson, both Ashfield district councillors, blamed campaign group Momentum for their decision to defect to the Tories. Mr Baron previously lead the Labour-run authority while Mr Anderson worked for Ashfield's Labour MP, Gloria De Piero.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43471848

DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link

Are they so out of touch? Yes it's the children who are right.

nashwan, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

My word, they couldn't even be bothered with the figleaf of joining the LibDems and just let it all hang out instead.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

If I was Vince Cable I'd be furious.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link

They sound like a right pair of charmers.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

Good work, Momentum!

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

The pair were among more than 600 Labour councillors across the country who called on Mr Corbyn to stand down as leader of the party in 2016.

Mr Baron - who was suspended in 2016 for poor attendance at council meetings - now sits with the Conservative group on Ashfield District Council.

He said: "It is disappointing for me after over 30 years in the Labour Party, but the Labour Party is not the Labour Party I joined."

Mr Anderson, who was handed a four-month suspension when he hired a digger and placed concrete blocks to stop travellers illegally camping in a car park, said: "The Labour Party has been taken over by the hard-left and Momentum in particular and I will play no part in that.

"It's been a very difficult decision to come to."

Ms De Piero thanked Mr Anderson, who was her office manager, but added: "If he has had a political change of heart and decided to leave the Labour Party and join the Conservatives, that's a matter entirely for him."

can labour afford 2 lose good ppl like this

Google lobster hierarchies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

Also, assuming that's a recent photo, one of em is a year round poppy wanker

Google lobster hierarchies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

" ... then he's dead to me now"

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

I've heard unsubstantiated reports that both were not being reselected by their CLP and were under investigation due to "irregularities", which may have something to do with this otherwise entirely principled and non-opportunistic stand.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link


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