Lol truth. There are no clever racists
― tsrobodo, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
yeah i find that so dumb. some really smart people are racist.
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link
william d hamilton was a smart guy.
he wrote this
"it seems to me one of the most paradoxical of all the many impacts Judaism has had on the present world that it is the cousins (at least in a broad ethnic sense) of the very people who claim, on the authority of ancient writings, a right to deprive other Middle Easterners of their land and freedom, who generate from among their intellectuals the arguments that convince the rest of us that panhumanism is a worthy ideal and that the course that follows from it is Homo's best hope for the future. A long list of examples could easily be given: I could start, for example, with Karl Popper and his book The Open Society and Its Enemies and I could end with books of Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould. It seems to be particularly these men of Jewish origin (not, however, orthodox followers of the faith as a rule) who seek to persuade us that race differences are non-existent and everyone can mate with everyone in confidence of equally capable children."
some really smart people are racist.
This is true. But professional racists (people who have made their racism the core of their public identity—Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al.) are all dumb as shit.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link
racism is inherently stupid therefore
not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
racism religion is inherently stupid therefore
not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist religious beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
Wait what’s happening now
― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
Intelligence has no bearing on how dumb a belief you can hold, b/c beliefs don’t always form that way.
Also being hella intelligent + hella racist = early 20th C support for eugenics and sterilization
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 06:32 (six years ago) link
it's a good article, but I found Peterson's response fairly persuasive:
And you call me a fascist? You sanctimonious prick. If you were in my room at the moment, I'd slap you happily. https://t.co/sC3Lc9Hhlu— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 20, 2018
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 06:54 (six years ago) link
In Peterson's own words, “Toughen up, you weasel.”
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:13 (six years ago) link
snowflake triggered
Lobster Boy Is Not Owned pic.twitter.com/PGkMhy0Enp— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) March 20, 2018
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link
it’s always the real men who feel the most pain
― maura, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:54 (six years ago) link
if only
― ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link
"I will hit U" is what someone says who knows they've lost the debate.
― zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link
I don't know what's more incredible: this guy's overall level of gooniness, or that he has the following that he does.
― zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
He's not going away, either. The CBC just brought him on last night to weigh in (poorly) on the Ontario provincial election, for some goddamn reason.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link
Meantime
lmao Paul Nehlen's campaign is now too anti-Semitic for white supremacists Jared Taylor and American Renaissance pic.twitter.com/bGra5uznoQ— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) March 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Jared Taylor and the American Renaissance: worst bar band ever
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
Sounds like a tribute band that is doomed to failure tbh.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link
their decision to focus exclusively on material from the mccarty-relf era is what really doomed them
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link
getting a lot of enjoyment out of perpetually-weeping, kermit-voiced scarecrow jordan peterson threatening physical violence on social media
what a time to be alive
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
a shame pankaj mishra isn't on twitter to tweet back PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE CAR AND PREPARE TO DIE
― ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link
Great article by Mishra. The historical reflections are especially good.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
lol Grauniad and all, but this from the weekend by Mishra covers a lot of similar ground in entertaining fashionhttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/17/the-crisis-in-modern-masculinity
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
its not easy, being greenhaving to spend each day the colour of the leavesand ppl tend to pass you overcos you're not standing out like flashy sparkles in the wateror stars in the sky
― (robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
the other day, the motherfucking kindle store showed me a J Peterson book in the Recommended For You bar across the bottom of the home page on my paperwhitei'm still mad
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
A very good point about Jordan Peterson's whole "people want to blame the world for their problems" nonsense. pic.twitter.com/7LYxVMnRaU— Bhaskar Sunkara (@sunraysunray) March 19, 2018
perhaps
― j., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
yeah idk about that ime ppl will do anything to avoid blaming themselves for anything
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link
― zchyrs, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:38 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
Though it's more like what someone who lacks the capability to engage on the same level says.
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link
― Mordy, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:39 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup. Total bullshit.
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest neither you nor Mordy have actually done the reading
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
what reading do i need to do i read the entire tweet
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link
You were so post to read the screenshot...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
Nevermind, I fucked that up.
People do avoid blaming themselves but they also cling to their own agency something fierce - the idea that you're limited only by yourself, that if you work hard enough you can achieve anything, is super comforting and super popular. So that tweet isn't entirely off-base.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link
I just watched the video of his comments to the Sun. They almost fully convinced me to vote Liberal.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link
No, it is entirely off-base, and it's doing the exact same thing that Jordan Peterson apparently does, only substituting 'late capitalism' or whatever for women and minorities and pointy-heads.
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
Hence, the BernieTrumpBro continuum
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
Wtf?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
lol ok
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
moo you do know that the vast majority of bernie people voted for hillary right? barring insane outliers the phenomenon you're describing isn't one
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
fuck I have to fp myself for taking the bait there. sorry everyone
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link
Oh, I should've made clear: I was talking to Mordy, not you.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link
Of course there are other ways to run away from being wrong besides "I'll fight you."
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
And to drill down, you're talking about peoples' proclivity for *crediting* themselves, while the tweeter is talking about their proclivity for *blaming* themselves.
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
that's your projection of "all people ever" which ignores gigantic swathes of modern science about the brain and how humans think of themselves and others
so pvmic, really
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:10 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
how has this cunt not made it to 51 yet?
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
BernieBro uses the c word, film at 11.
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link