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racism is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link

racism religion is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist religious beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

Wait what’s happening now

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

Intelligence has no bearing on how dumb a belief you can hold, b/c beliefs don’t always form that way.

Also being hella intelligent + hella racist = early 20th C support for eugenics and sterilization

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

it's a good article, but I found Peterson's response fairly persuasive:

And you call me a fascist? You sanctimonious prick. If you were in my room at the moment, I'd slap you happily. https://t.co/sC3Lc9Hhlu

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 20, 2018

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 06:54 (six years ago) link

In Peterson's own words, “Toughen up, you weasel.”

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:13 (six years ago) link

snowflake triggered

Lobster Boy Is Not Owned pic.twitter.com/PGkMhy0Enp

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) March 20, 2018

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link

it’s always the real men who feel the most pain

maura, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:54 (six years ago) link

if only

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link

"I will hit U" is what someone says who knows they've lost the debate.

zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link

I don't know what's more incredible: this guy's overall level of gooniness, or that he has the following that he does.

zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

He's not going away, either. The CBC just brought him on last night to weigh in (poorly) on the Ontario provincial election, for some goddamn reason.

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

Meantime

lmao Paul Nehlen's campaign is now too anti-Semitic for white supremacists Jared Taylor and American Renaissance pic.twitter.com/bGra5uznoQ

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) March 20, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

Jared Taylor and the American Renaissance: worst bar band ever

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

Sounds like a tribute band that is doomed to failure tbh.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

their decision to focus exclusively on material from the mccarty-relf era is what really doomed them

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

getting a lot of enjoyment out of perpetually-weeping, kermit-voiced scarecrow jordan peterson threatening physical violence on social media

what a time to be alive

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

a shame pankaj mishra isn't on twitter to tweet back PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE CAR AND PREPARE TO DIE

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

Great article by Mishra. The historical reflections are especially good.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

lol Grauniad and all, but this from the weekend by Mishra covers a lot of similar ground in entertaining fashion
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/17/the-crisis-in-modern-masculinity

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

its not easy, being green
having to spend each day the colour of the leaves
and ppl tend to pass you over
cos you're not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water
or stars in the sky

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

the other day, the motherfucking kindle store showed me a J Peterson book in the Recommended For You bar across the bottom of the home page on my paperwhite
i'm still mad

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

A very good point about Jordan Peterson's whole "people want to blame the world for their problems" nonsense. pic.twitter.com/7LYxVMnRaU

— Bhaskar Sunkara (@sunraysunray) March 19, 2018

perhaps

j., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link

yeah idk about that ime ppl will do anything to avoid blaming themselves for anything

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

"I will hit U" is what someone says who knows they've lost the debate.

― zchyrs, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:38 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

Though it's more like what someone who lacks the capability to engage on the same level says.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

yeah idk about that ime ppl will do anything to avoid blaming themselves for anything

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:39 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup. Total bullshit.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest neither you nor Mordy have actually done the reading

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

what reading do i need to do i read the entire tweet

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

You were so post to read the screenshot...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

Nevermind, I fucked that up.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

People do avoid blaming themselves but they also cling to their own agency something fierce - the idea that you're limited only by yourself, that if you work hard enough you can achieve anything, is super comforting and super popular. So that tweet isn't entirely off-base.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

He's not going away, either. The CBC just brought him on last night to weigh in (poorly) on the Ontario provincial election, for some goddamn reason.

I just watched the video of his comments to the Sun. They almost fully convinced me to vote Liberal.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

No, it is entirely off-base, and it's doing the exact same thing that Jordan Peterson apparently does, only substituting 'late capitalism' or whatever for women and minorities and pointy-heads.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

Hence, the BernieTrumpBro continuum

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link

Wtf?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

lol ok

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

moo you do know that the vast majority of bernie people voted for hillary right? barring insane outliers the phenomenon you're describing isn't one

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

fuck I have to fp myself for taking the bait there. sorry everyone

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

No, it is entirely off-base, and it's doing the exact same thing that Jordan Peterson apparently does, only substituting 'late capitalism' or whatever for women and minorities and pointy-heads.

Oh, I should've made clear: I was talking to Mordy, not you.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

Of course there are other ways to run away from being wrong besides "I'll fight you."

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

And to drill down, you're talking about peoples' proclivity for *crediting* themselves, while the tweeter is talking about their proclivity for *blaming* themselves.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

that's your projection of "all people ever" which ignores gigantic swathes of modern science about the brain and how humans think of themselves and others

so pvmic, really

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

Hence, the BernieTrumpBro continuum

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:10 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how has this cunt not made it to 51 yet?

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

BernieBro uses the c word, film at 11.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

No, it is entirely off-base, and it's doing the exact same thing that Jordan Peterson apparently does, only substituting 'late capitalism' or whatever for women and minorities and pointy-heads.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:09 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link

BernieBro uses the c word, film at 11.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:06 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm scottish and i don't care about bernie sanders

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

bernie sanders would be a centrist gun nut where i come from

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

jp's comment is equally trite i think but not bc he has it precisely backwards (like that tweet suggests) but more bc ppl blame themselves and others on multiple levels (something as a jungian you'd think he'd know) and sometimes cover for each other. we blame ourselves bc we fear that we're powerless (the corollary to the assertion that we cling to the idea that we can make a positive intervention in our own lives) and we blame others bc we fear that we are personally deficient. but the idea that jp has some nietzchean ubermensch alternative he's offering to these cycle of recriminations seems belied by the fact that he just has other specious recriminations (like against the ppl who blame 'capitalism' instead of themselves). i don't buy tho that blaming others is somehow difficult for the human being just listen the next time someone has a list of excuses for why something happened and who is to blame.

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link


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