Dynasty, s3: Canadian Politics 2018

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yeah, could you even imagine what it would be like if we had a PM who associated with violent extremists

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

would be really hard to respect a leader like that

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

Ha. Now, I don't necessarily take issue with a federal party leader getting arrested for blocking pipeline construction: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/anti-pipeline-protest-elizabeth-may-kennedy-stewart-1.4587631

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 23 March 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-cross-purposes-the-battle-for-christianity-in-canada/

(m1ch431 c0r3n in case this triggers anything in you)

While in Catholic circles, a belief in intellectual excellence still exists (although it’s far stronger among Jesuits and Dominicans), evangelical culture has retreated from the world – and, perhaps more disturbingly, is working to erect a parallel one that is run according to its own laws and logic. Which is why we see a new wave of Christian high schools and colleges, and the inevitable debates. Witness the battle between Trinity Western University in Langley, B.C. and various law societies over that Christian college’s desire to start a law school whose students must agree to forgo sexual intimacy outside of heterosexual marriage.

Or take the example of the Trudeau government’s decision to require groups seeking funding for the Summer Jobs Program to affirm their respect for a woman’s right to choose. The decision went to the epicentre of the church-state relationship (while also, it’s worth noting, making small-l liberal Christians feel almost anonymous). An attempt to prevent tax dollars ending up in the hands of extreme anti-abortion groups was clumsily handled by the government, and thus played into the persecution complex so relished by the Christian right.

What wasn’t made clear by those complaining of being victims of liberal “discrimination” was that many of these same people would be the first to refuse to hire openly gay students – or even straight students living with a partner to whom they are not married. It all seems so ugly, and lacking in the gentleness demanded by the rebel Jesus.

Indeed, perhaps nowhere is the modern-day Kulturkampf more pronounced than on the issue of abortion, a litmus test on which Catholics and evangelicals have forged a common ground against all liberal comers. It is a tragic intransigence, because here is an area where common ground is not only possible, but desirable.

All Christians, and most people for that matter, would like to see abortion rates decline. That could be achieved, and has been achieved, by making contraceptives readily available, by insisting on modern sex education in schools, by reducing poverty, by funding public daycare and by empowering women more generally.

And yet, Catholics insist on remaining opposed to “artificial contraceptives” and, alongside their Protestant allies, lead the campaign against frank and healthy sex education, while framing state-funded day care as an attack on the family and a form of social engineering. As for abortion itself, the Christian right wants it defunded, and ultimately – however much they may deny this publicly – banned and criminalized.

For, make no mistake: Such ideological tussles are anything but abstract debates about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The Halton Catholic District School Board, west of Toronto, last month passed a motion that bans it from facilitating financial donations to charities that support, “either directly or indirectly, abortion, contraception, sterilization, euthanasia, or embryonic stem-cell research.” Under the ban, the Hospital for Sick Children, the United Way and Doctors Without Borders would become charities non grata.

Indeed, for many Catholics, the loathing of abortion, no matter the circumstances, trumps even the most basic of Christian virtues. In 2015, in The Prairie Messenger, a Catholic newspaper in Western Canada, I wrote supportively about a 10-year-old Paraguayan girl who had been denied an abortion after being raped by her stepfather. I was promptly fired (albeit amid profuse apologies from my editor, who cited external pressure). Which in turn prompted Lifesite, the Canadian anti-abortion movement’s most prominent media platform – and one of the most influential conservative Christian sites in the world – to announce that they were “glad that the Prairie Messenger will no longer be a mouthpiece for Coren’s misplaced notions of compassion and love.”

Imagine: compassion and love for a pregnant 10-year-old having no place at the Christian table.

And yet, who is welcome at that table? Donald Trump, a man who lies on a near daily basis, who has given comfort to racist thugs, who has admitted to sexual assault and is by all accounts an adulterer. As with Christians in the United States, conservative believers in Canada are more than happy to defend the man.

And why not, they ask. He opposes a woman’s right to choose (after years of claiming otherwise), has fired every member of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS, has renewed his call to ban transgender citizens from serving their country in the U.S. military and has promised to vigorously appoint “pro-life judges.” To a number of his religious supporters, he is a new Constantine, the deeply flawed emperor who allowed Christianity to flourish in ancient Rome: As Mr. Trump proudly champions all that is selfish and mean, these Christians accuse his opponents of being “demonic.”

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In any case, defending life is a complicated affair. As the Benedictine nun Sister Joan Chittister has said: “I do not believe that just because you’re opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don’t? Because you don’t want any tax money to go there. That’s not pro-life. That’s pro-birth.”

Or what of Christians who would deny equality to LGBTQ2 people – in a world where homophobia leads to persecution, family rejection, self-harm and even suicide? It’s another of those subjects that, while of concern to Christians on both sides of the aisle, is hardly touched on in the Bible. The Genesis story of Sodom and Gomorrah is less about homosexuality than about hospitality – protecting one’s guests and neighbours, and loving God rather than oneself. Remember, it features Lot offering up his teenage daughters to a rape mob in place of his angelic guests! Hardly family values.

When the Hebrew Scriptures – the Old Testament – do speak of homosexuality, it is condemned with other transgressions such as combining different cloths, eating the wrong foods and having sex with a woman when she is menstruating. As for St. Paul’s rejection of homosexuality in the New Testament, it is concerned with straight men using boys, usually young teenagers, for loveless sex, a practice common in Greek and Roman culture. And while Jesus doesn’t speak of the subject, it’s worth rereading his affirming and loving response to a Roman centurion who cares deeply for his slave. Many theologians are convinced that this is an account of a gay partnership.

The progressive Christian approach is to understand Biblical teaching through the prism of love, to regard the Bible as a living document that on certain subjects speaks differently to different ages. It is to acknowledge that the writers of the Old Testament knew little if anything of committed, loving same-sex relationships. As Ms. Helwig notes, “The radical left theological tradition, which goes much further back in Christian history” imparts a message of deep humanity, one in which “we don’t need to be afraid of the ‘other’ or, finally, of God, that God is constantly drawing us all into the vast mystery of love, and that we are, despite our many human failures, deeply, existentially safe. So we can be vulnerable, and open, and comfortable with difference and uncertainty.”

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That wonder is troubling for the complacent, who want their faith neatly packaged in catechismal certainty. But being born again is not the same as being born yesterday, and questioning is not the same as doubting. As scientific knowledge expands and public attitudes change, Christianity today must either respond intelligently and constructively, or retreat into an ever-shrinking, more hostile ghetto.

For Canadian Christians (and here, it is not solely the conservative among them) the newest battle front is assisted dying or, as opponents prefer to call it, euthanasia. Unlike abortion and homosexuality, this is more a work in progress, a conundrum whose resolution is still undecided for many people. Not for all, however.

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To liberal Christians, it seemed that once again those on the right of the church care most about people just before they are born, and just before they die. In between, not so much. In the process, those conservatives betray their indifference to economic systems that exacerbate suffering across the lion’s share of our time here on Earth.

There was a time when Christian social conservatives in Canada held to an economic gospel, when they were prepared to believe that the desire for more socialistic policies was compatible with conservative views on life and sexuality. Like so much that involves benevolence and mercy, that position has been largely suffocated. As Protestant evangelicals and conservative Catholics rally round right-wing politicians, they trade away kindness and generosity in exchange for a guarantee that Canada’s legislatures will call a halt to social progress.

Canadian Christianity is bisected, and – as the absolute numbers attest – in trouble. And while no faith should be measured exclusively by its headcount, without worshippers, there is no community, no money and, for that matter, no church.

The coming years will see a new generation of believers assuming positions of influence and authority in our churches and in our society. Those leaders will have the option of building walls or building bridges, of extending the circle so as to include as many people as possible or standing at the corners of their creeds and repelling all they see as a threat. Of lending a hand to the marginalized and needy, or withdrawing it once and for all.

James E. Wallis Jr. is a Christian writer and political activist, best known as the founder and editor of Sojourners magazine, a journal of the evangelical left. He writes: “Two of the greatest hungers in our world today are the hunger for spirituality and the hunger for social change. The connection between the two is the one the world is waiting for, especially the new generation. And the first hunger will empower the second.”

Whether Canadian Christians will listen to Mr. Wallis – or, for that matter, to Jesus Christ – remains to be seen. Their decision will influence all of us, whatever our faith or lack thereof.

And it will determine whether our houses of worship, and our houses of politics, are places of division and discord – or living rooms where love is always welcome and compassion finds a home.

F# A# (∞), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Interesting. I usually feel the opposite: that the differences between states in the US are greater than the differences between (especially English) Canadian provinces. I don't really get much of an impression that people in Massachusetts give two shits about what happens at the state level in, say, the Dakotas or Tennessee, or could even name the Governor of Missouri. (I can't.) NB that Roy Moore vs Doug Jones was a contest for a federal Senate seat, not a state-level race. I do think that even moderately politically engaged people in Ontario would pay attention to a scandal-ridden federal byelection in Nova Scotia, or a controversy involving a PEI Senator (as we saw with Duffy).

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, March 19, 2018 7:55 AM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was thinking about this while reading this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-unveils-bill-that-could-wreak-havoc-on-b-c-gas-prices-in-trade-war-1.4622165

do ontarians care what's going on between bc and alberta?

nytimes covers the entire country the way cbc does, while each one focuses on their own state's and province's major city

i don't think toronto cares what happens in the prairies or even know what living in saskatchewan is like

whereas in the states, it feels like los angeles, new york, miami, chicago, and maybe even seattle and portland, are all aware of what is generally going on in those cities because they are all trying to push forward a more progressive society

it's also funny because most of my vancouver friends think toronto still thinks it represents canada, and even by the way people post on here, it definitely looks like that

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link

I care! And, wow, this is nuts: interprovincial trade war??

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

good breakdown of that issue + likely outcomes

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156189465332822&id=516917821

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

i have really no hope for this country politically.

trade war will possibly destroy this provincial gov - or at least assure it's a one term thing. BC Liberals will be back in. Alberta will vote provincial NDP out next year for sure, conservatives back in forever there. Liberals may well lose to the Tories in the next federal election - they're ahead in current polling.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

And locally - Vancouver's centre and left may well vote split in the municipal elections this year and we could have an NPA city hall.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

Don't forget Ford Nation

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

oh yeah totally, that's bound to happen!

kill me now

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

I think Carr has a really good chance for mayor if she runs, none of the NPA candidates seem like much

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

there's bound to be a vision adjacent candidate and a left candidate in addition to Carr - if she runs - surely?

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

I also really think Trudeau will be PM forever, for better or for worse. He's up in some polls now, and the Cons have a difficult electoral map unless they show some ability to break into Canada's three largest cities. The LIbs should be able to at least get a minority gov't.

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

I also really think Trudeau will be PM forever, for better or for worse.

...barring a major scandal or a significant economic downturn, neither of which I would rule out.

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

Yeah I guess Sylvester is the Vision-affiliated "independent," and maybe COPE will run a mayor too...but nobody approaches Carr's record or name recognition, and I doubt the COPE brand means much these days. I think she can win votes from Westside NIMBYs as well as the left.

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

yeah that's what it took to get the Liberals out last time xp

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

I am not too thrilled about any of the apparent choices for mayor, I might just leave that ballot blank and just vote for council

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

xps. ok, good info, bud. you're talking me off the ledge here lol

I'm thinking a COPEish person like Jean Swanson, a Vision affiliated independent, and possibly OneCity fielding a candidate, plus the Greens obv. There's no way in that situation I see a good outcome

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

Totally understand having no hope for this country politically speaking. Trudeau's a mess but he can hold on. I doubt the BC Liberals will return soon. We have a winnable electoral reform referendum. And I'm hopeful about Vancouver. There will not be more than one candidate for mayor left of Vision. It's going to be either Carr or someone who has not yet declared and has barely been mentioned yet. The NPA are not looking good imo. These density bros think they can win via social media but their base has nothing to do with Twitter and will recoil with horror at talk of rezoning west of Granville.

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

Sorry was going to put "But" at the start of my second sentence.

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

good breakdown of that issue + likely outcomes

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156189465332822&id=516917821

This is clearly coming from one ideological perspective but it is still helpful. I get that Notley is Premier of Alberta and is not going to actively sabotage her province's main industry but I had been confused about why she and the Alberta NDP are this aggressively invested in getting a pipeline built. If it's true that capital ("oil barons") had been threatening to strike if the NDP increased their royalties, I wonder what would have happened if the NDP just called their bluff and went ahead. Surely the only reason they were doing business in AB in the first place was because it was extremely profitable for them (even with a modest increase in taxes and/or royalties), which they would miss out on if they pulled out altogether.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

yeah I mean obviously he's a comrade and all but I think the predictions for how this plays out are pretty sound

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link

Jean Swanson isn't running for mayor (unfortunately). I really doubt OneCity will. I'm glad the continued success of some nominally left neoliberal government can get you off the ledge! It is better than the alternative, despite everything

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

These parties are all being very careful about this election. There's a lot of talk between them. Predict Swanson will join COPE, giving them a bit of energy again. And also predict a familiar NDP-related person will emerge as an independent as the only candidate left of Vision for mayor. Or Carr will run unopposed. Whichever, all the parties will support.

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

xp. i work with someone who is heavily involved with OneCity, guess I could ask her

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

There's an open secret about who's going to run if Carr won't.

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

.....

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

well, i hear the vp of the bc ndp has been working with the three left-of-vision parties and they're close to supporting a labour-backed candidate for mayor

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

and indeed I see that she just shared this on Twitter.

I am happy to share that I am engaged in dialogue with Vancouver's civic parties and regional stakeholders as I explore running for mayor in 2018 as a progressive unity candidate. Discussions so far are encouraging.#StayTuned #vanpoli #vanelxnhttps://t.co/vSQ4475AqM

— Morgane Oger (@MorganeOgerBC) April 17, 2018

everything, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

cool!

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link

My whole life I have believed the equation was that all Canadians care about the other Canadian provinces except the maritimes, no one cares about the maritimes unfortunately.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link

Totally understand having no hope for this country politically speaking. Trudeau's a mess but he can hold on. I doubt the BC Liberals will return soon. We have a winnable electoral reform referendum. And I'm hopeful about Vancouver. There will not be more than one candidate for mayor left of Vision. It's going to be either Carr or someone who has not yet declared and has barely been mentioned yet. The NPA are not looking good imo. These density bros think they can win via social media but their base has nothing to do with Twitter and will recoil with horror at talk of rezoning west of Granville.

― everything, Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:59 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just you wait for the CAQ and their right wing nationalist islamophobic brand win in Quebec + Ford in Ontario. This is the mess awaiting us.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link

The possibility of Ford winning in Ontario scares the shit out of me, and I just wish that everyone in the province would vote strategically, rather than ideologically, this time.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link

I was just talking to my partner and we feel the same way, except that we're not sure what the strategic choice would be, or even the ideological one, for that matter.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 03:19 (six years ago) link

Legault is going to be Duplessis redux, down to his ambiguous brand of nationalism that caters to the PQ base's barely contained xenophobia even as he shies away from full separatism because granting undivided attention to statistically insignificant Muslim practices is the key to contemporary politics.

Btw, I care more about the Maritimes than I do about Saskatchewan. Alberta would leave me indifferent if it didn't irritate me most of the time.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link

The possibility of Ford winning in Ontario scares the shit out of me, and I just wish that everyone in the province would vote strategically, rather than ideologically, this time.

I'm not convinced there *is* a strategic vote this time out. I'm not advocating for giving up but you might want to mentally prepare yourself for the possibility that we're fucked.

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:25 (six years ago) link

that's a good piece

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 20 April 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

That's a great piece. The royalties almost beggar belief.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 April 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link

drill baby drill eh

meanwhile mining companies are hiring environmental science grads from the university of waterloo

wonder what they're up to

F# A# (∞), Friday, 20 April 2018 05:16 (six years ago) link

fuck postmedia forever

article about the ndp and oil in jacobin:

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/04/the-ndps-oil-problem

Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 April 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

singh has legit been a disappointment on KM

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

wish ashton had won :c

Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

As someone who voted for him, I agree that Singh is a little disappointing on KM btw.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

I too wish Ashton had won (I voted for her and the lefties I run with endorsed her) but I'm not sure she wouldn't have capitulated on KM

Simon H., Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

Between this and the fucker who brandished a nazi flag during the May Day protest, I'm pretty pissed at my city right now: http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/major-neo-nazi-figure-recruiting-in-montreal

pomenitul, Friday, 4 May 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link


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