Controversial Food Opinions - The Béchamel Test

one of them definitely comes straight from Putin

iirc (was a long time ago) i used to make lasagna @ a resto. and bechamel was gently layed over the top layer of red sauce. so it wasn't actually in it. and after it cooked it was a creamy layer, but not runny at all. i always thought it was a presentation thing - like the contrast it makes with the sauce just underneath it. and you kind of had to make the bechamel just right - couldn't be too runny or too thick to spread perfectly while at the same time avoiding getting any hint of the red from the sauce underneath mixed in. also seemed to make a pretty rustic dish a little more elegant?

my controversial food opinion is it's ok for people to not like certain foods
it's also ok to not want to try certain foods

Yeah, people should eat what they want. I only get annoyed when people prepare food for other people and they totally won't even try it or just are assholes about it. I eat the lasagna with bechamel when people prepare it for me and say "wow, this is amazing."

I would eat it too but would hope no one would tell me it's béchamel

it is ok before people to like whatever foods but it is fun to get "mad" about it

it's fine to not like things or to like things and message board threads are a safe space for comedy outrage but irl if i'm eating something and you tell me how gross the thing i'm eating is i may not say "gtfo you delicate savage" but i will certainly think it v. loudly

it's also ok to not want to try certain foods

"But, you've GOT to try this!" (aggressively shoves a forkful of food at brimstead's mouth)

my grandparents convinced me I was lactose intolerant (I'm not) and I ate cereal w/ orange juice for over a decade

its good

My mom will prepare a lovely lunch/dinner for us when we visit. And then my dad comes sauntering over and makes his own pastrami sandwich to eat. He's an asshole.

people shoving food at my face is a slightly different kind of savagery and whether i like the food or not isn't the issue for me

my dad used to be terrible for this, if i mentioned in conversation having eaten something he didn't like - and there was plenty of stuff he didn't like - he'd insist every bleeding time on a quick monologue about how horrible the thing i'd just mentioned was. in case i'd forgotten the previous 200 times he'd told me he didn't care for curry.

My dad wouldn't eat the grilled salmon and salad my mom made for lunch once. He ate too many salads and he ate too much salmon growing up. Of really dad, grilled salmon was all the rage in 1950s Michigan?

Dads are kind of the worst about this stuff. DON'T BE LIKE YOUR DAD.

Speak for your own dad, not mine, plz.

DON'T BE LIKE MY DAD.

but i like pastrami sandwiches ;_;

One time it was a plate of sliced up sausages and tomatoes. We all gave him the side-eye.

okay that's just weird, wtf yerac's dad

I kind of figure all Trump voters are like that. He's my benchmark.

I knew someone in college who apparently at some point decided to eat only olive oil. His thyroid stopped working!

what the shit

I know!

I think he was living on a boat at the time??

I think since then he's founded a cryptocurrency startup. We're not in touch.

Anyway eat what people put in front of you, if possible, is a virtue I've come around to. (I tried with eggplant, it makes me gag, I am not trying again with eggplant.)

he's founded a cryptocurrency startup

this actually helps put the olive oil diet in context tbh

the only things I don't eat are mayo, cooked eggs (except in like fried rice) & savory cream sauces. & when I'm traveling I'll even try those. I mean, I once ate a cow's seminal vesicle, how much worse can béchamel be? (actually the seminal vesicle was pretty good)

idgi will you slam back a raw egg in the a.m.?

I think he was living on a boat at the time??

I think since then he's founded a cryptocurrency startup. We're not in touch.

― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, March 23, 2018 9:09 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this post

sorry, euler, i don't mean to make light of familial discord or anything

SILBY I MEAN, gah

iirc in college he was living on a restricted diet that was heavy on unseasoned chicken breast and Nutella

well raw eggs get cooked in stuff & I'm cool with that it's just like hard boiled or fried or whatever you people do, they smell so bad, it's just not my thing

Someone made me kidneys once because I had not had them before and was interested. They were disgusting. I still ate 5 and had nightmares all night. They ate one because they don't like kidneys.

My partner is a reformed vegan and has slowly been adding some seafood to his diet. The first time he had lobster he spit it out. I ate the chewed up bit. He threw up some abalone in a restaurant. He likes grilled octopus though.

Euler how are you in France and not eating mayo. I feel like in France is the only time I eat mayo. Especially when it's freshly prepared.

The first time he had lobster he spit it out. I ate the chewed up bit.

man this is true love right here

whether for lobster or yr partner i leave for others to determine

When we go out to restaurants and it's omakase/chef's menus I have to make sure I am extra hungry, because I hate food going to waste and sometimes have to eat double because i'll eat the portions or plates he can't eat. I have a lot of pics me eating huge cheese/charcut boards all by myself.

I'm a bit of a traditionalist with italian food and béchamel is good in lasagna, but not necessarily necessary - there are many regional variations and many don't contain béchamel

these dad anecdotes are odd to me as my dad was so serious about not wasting food that he'd eat pieces of steak and side salad that I had partially chewed, gagged, and spit out.

and i've gone from curious about béchamel in lasagna to i absolutely must try béchamel in lasagna

I am reading all about bechamel in lasagne now and have come to the conclusion that it's best if it's well integrated and subtle. I think a lot of restaurants/markets cheap out on cheese and just slather it in there.

I will never allow bechamel to get into my lasagna.

I suspect that many people who think they have never tried bechamel on lasagne have in fact tried bechamel on lasagne.

i’ve only ever made lasagna with bechamel
it’s the way my mum made it & the way i like it best

red sauce + ricotta lasagna just doesnt ever feel as substantial as a good rustic meat sauce + bechamel

and per outdoor miner - the bolognese sauce is thick, and the bechamel is thick, it’s not a soupy mess at all. maybe a ~little~ runny on the first night but once the leftovers set up in the fridge overnight it’s 👌🏻

many have in fact tried colombian decaffeinated coffee crystals

Many have in fact tried cocaine.

People who order extra sauce on pizza *shudder*...I think I have issues with too much sauce. I sense a pattern.

my partner once ordered extra sauce for everybody's pizza without asking anyone. there was an awkward initial sampling of the pizza wherein I kept wondering aloud why the pizza was so saucy and bad before she finally admitted her crime. she thought it wouldn't be noticeable and was apparently mortified that I kept talking about how saucy the pizza was to everyone.

Rasaucenikov

It's a good point that recooked lasagne > freshly made

a few years ago my grandfather lovingly cooked hot dogs for the whole family.
he also DRESSED them for everybody. and he included MAYONNAISE!

here's a Controversial Food Opinion: Pringles are the best mass-market potato chips

I agree. I am not a huge fan of potato chips, but I like pringles (and those pickle flavored or balsamic flavored ones).

At a school I was working at this year they had switched to beef sausages because they had some Muslim students, and they were a vast improvement from the cheap bangers they had before, if a bit too salty.

yeah I can get some Turkish beef sausages but they're not widely popular here. I should say that merguez are easily available in my quartier & we eat them not infrequently but they're more spiced and thus more limited in application.

Jesus i mean I’m all for options

God have mercy on me the day I can’t have my pork

Square sausage, or lorne beef sausage, is one of the only things I get homesick for, with a nice floury bap and liberal brown sauce.

oh, I just remembered that you are from michigan. Of course you like kielbasa.

― Yerac, Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:52 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Girl I grew up with Dutch and Swedish ppl, their food is gross. I had kielbasa for the first time in Jersey City!

pringles are vile you weirdos

Australia, for all its British, Irish and Italian heritage really can’t do sausages well. Beef sausages are the staple and not good, bacon, is very much lacking and the Italian sausages seem somewhat dry. Maybe Australian pigs aren’t fat enough.

Best way to test that is to make your own sausages imo

https://66.media.tumblr.com/3263a7e7a6ee26a3e469e356043b5910/tumblr_oxpwo2NAYf1sxouzno1_500.gifv

das dutchman essenhaus employee?

It’s hard when you have to befriend a piggy and you know you’re gonna have to kill it tho

if you don't cook bacon you don't get to pour out the fat into a container you keep in your fridge for Future Uses so massive DUD imo

here's a Controversial Food Opinion: Pringles are the best mass-market potato chips

― droit au butt (Euler)

they're great but i'm not sure they qualify even for the low standards of "potato chips".

If it’s not a cooked cross section of an intact potato it’s not a potato chip

^Real Talk

Grams making no bones about it

It's true that Pringles are Not Real Food but they recently had a short lived Brazilian BBQ flavour which erased my willpower the second I tasted it. If it was still available I would weigh 300 lb and live in a pile of non-recyclable silvered cardboard tubes.

Pringles are basically resultant paste, right.

more of a machine-extruded slurry. resultant paste is more personal.

Pringles are like wafer thin savory cookies made out of flour, potatoes and seasonings. Not a potato chip. I do find them good personally tho

I never even thought about how pringles are not really potato chips. This is probably why I like them.

How we can talk about compositional authenticity on a thread where we’re talking about sausage

That only makes sense as a critique if sausages are to be construed as a mechanized simulation of an actual intestine

I do really love boudin noir.

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Pringles also rule because they are minimal surfaces.

posts very much in character?

kringle still the best 'ringle, though

Fo shingle