Controversial Food Opinions - The Béchamel Test

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SILBY I MEAN, gah

brimstead, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

iirc in college he was living on a restricted diet that was heavy on unseasoned chicken breast and Nutella

valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

well raw eggs get cooked in stuff & I'm cool with that it's just like hard boiled or fried or whatever you people do, they smell so bad, it's just not my thing

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

Someone made me kidneys once because I had not had them before and was interested. They were disgusting. I still ate 5 and had nightmares all night. They ate one because they don't like kidneys.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

My partner is a reformed vegan and has slowly been adding some seafood to his diet. The first time he had lobster he spit it out. I ate the chewed up bit. He threw up some abalone in a restaurant. He likes grilled octopus though.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

Euler how are you in France and not eating mayo. I feel like in France is the only time I eat mayo. Especially when it's freshly prepared.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

The first time he had lobster he spit it out. I ate the chewed up bit.

man this is true love right here

whether for lobster or yr partner i leave for others to determine

When we go out to restaurants and it's omakase/chef's menus I have to make sure I am extra hungry, because I hate food going to waste and sometimes have to eat double because i'll eat the portions or plates he can't eat. I have a lot of pics me eating huge cheese/charcut boards all by myself.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

I'm a bit of a traditionalist with italian food and béchamel is good in lasagna, but not necessarily necessary - there are many regional variations and many don't contain béchamel

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

these dad anecdotes are odd to me as my dad was so serious about not wasting food that he'd eat pieces of steak and side salad that I had partially chewed, gagged, and spit out.

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

and i've gone from curious about béchamel in lasagna to i absolutely must try béchamel in lasagna

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

I am reading all about bechamel in lasagne now and have come to the conclusion that it's best if it's well integrated and subtle. I think a lot of restaurants/markets cheap out on cheese and just slather it in there.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

I will never allow bechamel to get into my lasagna.

WilliamC, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

I suspect that many people who think they have never tried bechamel on lasagne have in fact tried bechamel on lasagne.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link

i’ve only ever made lasagna with bechamel
it’s the way my mum made it & the way i like it best

red sauce + ricotta lasagna just doesnt ever feel as substantial as a good rustic meat sauce + bechamel

and per outdoor miner - the bolognese sauce is thick, and the bechamel is thick, it’s not a soupy mess at all. maybe a ~little~ runny on the first night but once the leftovers set up in the fridge overnight it’s 👌🏻

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

many have in fact tried colombian decaffeinated coffee crystals

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

Many have in fact tried cocaine.

People who order extra sauce on pizza *shudder*...I think I have issues with too much sauce. I sense a pattern.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

my partner once ordered extra sauce for everybody's pizza without asking anyone. there was an awkward initial sampling of the pizza wherein I kept wondering aloud why the pizza was so saucy and bad before she finally admitted her crime. she thought it wouldn't be noticeable and was apparently mortified that I kept talking about how saucy the pizza was to everyone.

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link

Rasaucenikov

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

It's a good point that recooked lasagne > freshly made

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

a few years ago my grandfather lovingly cooked hot dogs for the whole family.
he also DRESSED them for everybody. and he included MAYONNAISE!

brimstead, Friday, 23 March 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

man, pre-dressed dogs. what a time saver. UNFORGIVABLE

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

no you don't understand he dressed them all the same, with everything

brimstead, Friday, 23 March 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

the first part was the sarcasm and the last part was sincere

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

i am on your side

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

lol sorry

brimstead, Friday, 23 March 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

my partner once ordered extra sauce for *everybody's pizza without asking anyone*.


i cannot fathom the thinking behind this

why would anyone do this

why

tbf nobody was expressing a strong opinion on toppings, and i think it was a gambit to impress everyone with her ordering skills. she was just the only one who liked extra sauce. she is also my favorite person, though, so the others maybe (probably?) haven't moved on.

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

The next time I want to get fired from a job I might try repeatedly ordering pizza with extra, extra sauce for everyone.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

what is wrong w sauce, sauce is good, the more the better. is it because it makes it too gloopy? i had a friend who would order pizzas "well done" because he felt, with some justification, that the middles of most pizzas are too gloopy

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

I’m on board with extra sauce and have been known to inflict it on others.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

if you want pizza sauce just eat spoonfuls of sauce, I've never had a pizza and thought "I wish there were about twice as much pizza sauce on here"

valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

"it would be great if instead of sitting between the bread and the cheese, the sauce were oozing out on my fingers"

valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

a few years ago my grandfather lovingly cooked hot dogs for the whole family.
he also DRESSED them for everybody. and he included MAYONNAISE!

― brimstead, Friday, March 23, 2018 10:36 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love mayo on hot dogs - based on going on vacation to chile as a child and that being a thing there

http://www.tipicochileno.cl/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/completo11.jpg

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

For some weird reason I associate extra sauce with the 1980s. Like, not knowing any better.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

Ugh, I am in Chile now and the mayo is out of control here.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

pizzeria uno used to offer "extra oil" for 50c

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

Ugh, I am in Chile now and the mayo is out of control here.

― Yerac, Friday, March 23, 2018 11:09 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

chilean food is weird. i have a strong affection for it but i hesitate to describe it as good

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Roberta's has on every table their bottle of hot oil. It's super good.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

The food in general in Chile is very average. They don't like spices.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

It probably depends on how sweet and acidic the pizza sauce is tbh. Ideally, a pizzeria has some idea of the balance between the sweet/sour/dairy and has already chosen the correct proportions for you.

cthulhu original (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

The food in general in Chile is very average. They don't like spices.

― Yerac, Friday, March 23, 2018 11:11 AM (sixteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i mean i guess merken and aji chileno appear here and there but yeah, in general quite bland. i like the seafood and the bread i guess

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

When we have people over, I make everything super basic and put all the spices, herbs on the side.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

For every bechamel-in-lasagna person, I beg you to try this instead just once.

4T butter, a small onion or a couple of shallots minced fine, 3T flour, 2C milk, 2 egg yolks, 1C grated parmesan cheese.
Soften onions in butter; blend in the flour, then the cheese; whisk in the milk and cook/stir until it's the thickness of heavy cream; temper the beaten yolks with some sauce and add it all back to the pot; cover and cook on very low for 10 minutes.

WilliamC, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

Your lasagna will be in the oven going OMG THANK YOU before you pull it out.

WilliamC, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

chilean food is weird. i have a strong affection for it but i hesitate to describe it as good

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, March 23, 2018 1:10 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah my limited experience with it was very unimpressive, esp since, like, it's upside down california the food there should be insanely good

gbx, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

I figure it's because the water is so salty/minerally it's destroyed everyone's tastebuds, that a lot of stuff is just starting to get imported, the milk/cheese situation is stupid and the traditional food is pretty bland.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

They do put bechamel in their lasagna here too. It's bad.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

this is a picture of locos mayo which is probably my favourite dish. this looks utterly revolting

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/2588977.jpg

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 March 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

I have never seen this before. That looks terrible.

Yerac, Friday, 23 March 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

kringle still the best 'ringle, though

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 19 October 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

Fo shingle

F# A# (∞), Friday, 19 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link


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