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I remember being a ridiculously emotional 12 years old and crying twice during the Legends trilogy

Nick, that's the Chronicles trilogy, get it STRAIGHT dude!

Those are pretty hazy in my mind, actually, I mostly remember Raistlin befriending the gully dwarf and wanting to eat spicy fried potatoes.

Jordanio, Monday, 9 August 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

SPICY FRIED POTATOES!

Every time we actually tried to play a Dragonlance module, it would devolve into arguments as to where the best fried potatoes could be found should Otik not be available.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha that was the CHRON trilogy D'OH!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

There were no orcs/ogres in Dragonlance were there?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you nuts? There were plenty of both.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

(Okay, that came off more dismissive than it should have been, but c'mon, FEWMASTER TOEDE.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

What was the orc/stormtrooper equivelent? Wasn't it some kind of lizard person?

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Draconians!

Jordu, Monday, 9 August 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

YES

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

It's all good Ned, it was an honest question, your reply didn't seem dismissive at all. I haven't read these in like 12-13 years, and have trouble remembering things that happened more than five minutes ago.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No worries, Nick!

The draconians were great because they were all about GENETIC MUTATION via magic. Also because of that great unsettling scene describing a dragonlet born of a corrupt egg that maintains its shape for a second or two before bursting and turning into draconians.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

On the flip side, in the first trilogy the whole Berem/dude with the gem thing was pretty eh. Like a nonfascinating Gollum equivalent.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, so, weirdly, I never got around to reading all the way through the Raistlin/whathisface trilogy: I suppose I was caught up with the short story collections and that stupid piece of shit one where they went to the moon. Pray tell, Ned -- how'd that turn out? I know the one dude married Tika and had many babies, but I can't remember anything else.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, don't answer that question, this Amazon reader review just brought back THE SHAME:

The story of the Dragonlance which started in the Inn of the Last Home under the vallenwoods ends in this wonderful book. Raistlin (Caramon Majere's frail twin) opens the mystical Portal to the Abyss to challenge Takhisis, Queen of Darkness. At the exact same time, his twin Caramon operates the magical time-traveling device. The fields of magic shift and collide sending Caramon and his kender friend, Tasslehoff Burrfoot, are sent into an unknown time and place while Raistlin enters the Abyss. Meanwhile the planet the full continent of Ansolon on the planet Krynn is undergoing one of the most destructive wars ever recorded by Astinus. Tanis Halfelven and Caramon take over a giant flying catedal and had Tasslehof and a gully dwarf fly the catedal to the Tower of High Sorcery. Once there Caramon and Tanis went past Dalamar's guardians (Dalamar- one of the most powerful sorcerers in all of Krynn) to find him laying on the ground after being stabbed by the Dragon Highlord Kitiara (Kitiara is the friend and foe of many people throughout all of the Legends and Chronicles)...

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Raistlin ended up in the Abyss to be tortured forever, possibly because he had a moment of weakness/compassion? Something happened with Dalamar (he was the HOT goth in the books) and Kitiara too.

(um, x-post, yeah)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Raistlin/whathisface

Caramon, I think.

Basically, Caramon and Tas end up in the future after the Dwarf War catastrophe in the 2nd book and find out that not only has Raistlin won over Takhisis but that he's essentially about to destroy Krynn via sucking all the life out of it and laying everything waste. It's been too long so I'm fuzzy about what happens after that, but the book splits itself between Raistlin actually fighting Takhisis in the Abyss, Kitiara and Lord Soth leading an attack on...cripes, I forget the name of the city, where Raistlin's tower is and where Crysania has been based...and Caramon having to face up to the fact that if he wants to save the rest of Krynn, Raistlin can't be allowed back from the Abyss. Tas's little gnome buddy get iced by Raistlin at some point and that finally wakes him up to the fact that Raistlin isn't much fun anymore. Caramon and Raistlin have a final faceoff via the Dragon Portal in Raistlin's tower, Caramon gets hold of Raistlin's humanity somehow (I forget the details) and the Portal is sealed, essentially damning Raistlin to eternal torment at Takhisis's hands, but the book suggests that his soul is able to retreat into a small quiet place where his brother still looks after him in a very abstract sense.

I'm probably missing some details. Oh yeah, and Kitiara dies and Lord Soth claims her for himself, the dead perv.

Double x-post! I don't care, I'm posting it anyway!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Palanthas! God, I can't believe I remember this shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't remember, was there ever a four-way between Kitiara, Dalamar, Tanis, and Lord Soth?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"under the vallenwoods"
"Takhisis, Queen of Darkness"
"magical time-traveling device"
"his kender friend"
"the planet Krynn"
"recorded by Astinus"
"giant flying catedal"
"a gully dwarf"

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad I've forgotten some of it, at least. ;-)

I'm enough of a Weis/Hickman groupie I've got the Darksword and Rose of the Prophet books. And all of the Death Gate cycle -- in hardback!

But after that, my interest declined, and I really can't believe there's much good about the new Dragonlance books they've done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Good band names, those.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

The gully dwarves were the untouchables of the dwarf world, I seem to remember. A bemusing concept.

Ladies and gentlemen, I should note we are excluding another important factor in all this -- Larry Elmore!

ihttp://www.steamfantasy.it/gallerie_artisti/elmore/1/larry_elmore_dragonlance.jpg

(And if that doesn't work, just go here).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Top hot chicks of Dragonlance:

1. Kitiara
2. that one elf chick
3. that one moon-chick what was with Riverwind
4. Tika
5. that one ice-chick

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Who's the chick with the curly hair in that jpeg? I don't remember her, unless it's Kitiara.

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was disappointed when I saw in the bookstore that they reissued Chronicles and Legends without those great covers.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

1. Kitiara

Dan is keeping too quiet on this thread but I KNOW he must surely have had a high regard for Kit.

Who's the chick with the curly hair in that jpeg?

Tika. Kitiara is the figure in the armor looming behind them all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, thanks for the reminder, NEd:

6. Tasselhoff on the cover of Winter Night

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

KENDERPERV

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I Thought Tika was the redhead?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, how awkwardly awful would that be?

"Hi, what are you doing? Can I join in? Hey what's this, what happens if I pull this..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Curly dark red hair -- Tika

Long flowing copper-bronze hair -- Laurana, aka 'the elf chick'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't Tanis marry Laurana? AND SHE WAS HIS COUSIN!

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Elves are like that.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, both Weasel's Luck and the dwarfy one I loved (Stormblade) were from the Heroes series; both were given matching sequels in the Heroes 2 series. I think the books that made me stop reading were either the Meetings or Preludes series, which sort of cashed in all the magic.

Other names/words that will make you feel like a geek:

"Huma"
"Qualinesti"
"Thorbardin"
"Kagonesti"

The Legend of Huma could have been a great story if it had been told right. Instead, we get a book full of plot holes, lifeless characters, pointless battles, and a romance that never develops. Worse, it's not even well written! I mean, what happened to the white stag Huma followed that was talked so much about in Dragons of Autumn Twilight? Knaak must have forgotten to read the ORIGINAL Dragonlance books! I can't see why so many people think this is the best book ever, but they really should wake up and read some truly good books.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Elves are like that.

And Tanis was some sorta halfbreed who was snootily looked down upon and etc.

Ah, The Legend of Huma. It was the first post-Legends book when the setting became a franchise full-on and such was the anticipation it actually hit pretty high the NY Times bestseller list (as had Test of the Twins before it). I think Knaak's publishers still use the 'NY Times bestselling author' tag to this day!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Going REALLY geek is having Karen Wynn Fonstad's atlas. Which is pretty great!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I had that! It wasn't geeky! Fuck you! You're not even my real parents!

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

ho ho, larry elmore, that takes me back.

he sucks.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I had that! It wasn't geeky! Fuck you! You're not even my real parents!

....did you have Leaves From the Inn of the Last Home?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I DID.

adam (adam), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

WITH RECIPES.

adam (adam), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you ever MAKE the recipes?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

(Even I haven't gone that far.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Top hot chicks of Dragonlance:
1. Kitiara
2. that one elf chick
3. that one moon-chick what was with Riverwind
4. Tika
5. that one ice-chick

Um hello SILVARA, so hawt she's a DRAGON.

http://www.bl.com/~dpb/silvara.gif

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

You think they would've noticed something. I mean, what kinda elves have THIGHS like THAT!?!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, these are D&D/TSR elves. They're more freaky and wear less clothes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

In the meantime, THE PAIN:

Mirrored Heart Dragonlance Slash. How can Dalamar tell Raistlin of the way he feels?

Tempest Set before the cataclysm. Raistlin is tempted by the Dark Queen

"You're not like the other magic-users..."

"My psionic powers are well-developed."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

And in the 'I am utterly baffled' category:

DRAGONLANCE SCIENCE THEATER 3000

Join Raistlin Majere, Dalamar "The Dark" Nightson, Caramon Majere, and the kender Tasslehoff Burrfoot as they face spam and badfic galore in their eternal struggle against Takhisis, the Dark Queen herself! For the newcomer, there's a handy Character Reference of all the main movers and shakers of the DST3K series.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

haha Ned that shit is incredible!!

Raistlin pulled the sheet off the sheet-covered mound that had been
sitting on the bridge's main counter for a week and a half. It looked like a
VCR, but when Drizzt pushed the on button it opened up a CD carosel.
"This is the Device of Entertainment. We got tired of trying to program
the VCR and desired the video and sound quality of a DVD, so we made this. You
simply buy a supply of CD read/write disks and put them in the carosel. Then,
you tell the Device of Entertainment what show you want it to record. Like
Tasslehoff, who religiously watches the various anime programs on cable, the
Device automatically knows the channel and time slot of the program in question.
The Device makes a DVD-quality recording with no commercial interruptions. Not
only that, but it's a regular DVD player as well," Raistlin said as Tasslehoff
snatched up the Device and installed it in the SOF's entertainment center.
"Now I can watch those Monty Python's Flying Circus DVD's..." Drizzt said
thoughtfully.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahaha! Wow!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link


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