The Residents: C/D;S&D

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oh, and other albums I've heard - Commercial Album and Eskimo. Like Eskimo, don't like Commercial Album. I'm not interested in the Residents at all, so you can basically completely disregard my opinion.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Aaaah well, I am 40-something but I'm not a rock critic and I prefer The Commercial Album to Eskimo so who knows what I'll make of it, if the sodding thing ever actually arrives.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Thoughts on Animal Lover. Current street date (US) is early April.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't heard it, don't want to and don't intend to, so consider my opinion even more inconsequential than usual. But a lotta folks are of the same opinion as me and have written as much: that their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts". But of course, that's just following the lead of the writers who write about the band, extra-musical stuff being easier to get a grip on, and sexier.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

one full listen later: this album is a complete and utter piece of shit, and I can honestly say anyone who enjoys it is kidding themselves.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

it sounds like the worst school play you've ever been to.
or something you'd make in music class when you were 14.
there's hardly any detectable reference to the theme.
I really think this copy is a giant joke - I read they'd delayed the release date to make "major changes". I don't see how anyone could agree to release this. it's really THAT BAD.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I do halfway like their version of
"Viva Las Vegas" on "The King and I."

Because I have a great friend/Residents fanatic whose musical taste is very different from mine but with whom I share a lot of likes, I've heard a ton of Residents music over the years. I still find it, no matter how eloquently he defends it, puerile.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

".... their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts"."

I think you're probably right - indeed, I suspect that the reason the last couple of Residents' projects (Wormwood, Demons Dance Alone) have shown such a long overdue return to form is that they did seem to have stopped trying to produce all-singing all-dancing fully-integrated multi-media conceptual arts projects, and were just concentrating on making music for it's own sake again.

Let's hope Animal Lover doesn't represent a step in the wrong direction.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Duck Stab is my favorite piece of music in the entire world. I own it on a 3" CD.
"Here I come, Constantinople. I am coming, Constantinople."

Besides Buster and Glen (have it also on a 3 incher in the euro ralph 2fer) I haven't really heard anything else. What do I need NOW? Is this the catchiest stuff? I really have no idea. To me it's THE monolith of fucked avant rock.

The Commercial Album sounds interesting...

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Duck Stab / Buster and Glen are indeed catchiest. You probably do want the Commercial Album next if that's the criterion.

But if you're loving this, you can't go wrong with any of the albums released 1980.

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

released _before_ 1980

Fingerprince, Not Available, Third Reich and Roll -- 100% guarenteed

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks duder.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I had this as a combined CD about 5 years ago, I dug it then, but now I'm like "OMG best EP evah! LOLOZ!" etc.
These things look like fucking Gamecube discs. Impractical but totally awesome, like the music itself.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Commercial Album is good. I like the first album and Third Reich and Roll more, though.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

sp. _guaranteed_

my favorite is Not Available. whenever one of the other ones isn't busy being my favorite.

I remember the first time I heard 'the executioner', when the guitar solo kicked in, I remember being so repulsed and horrified that sitting there thinking 'this is the ugliest music I've ever heard in my life, do I really want to go here? do I even want to be someone who owns this record?' then the guitar faded into the funeral march and it was too late

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Duck Stab is like Pet Sounds compared to Wolf Eyes though.
(I don't really dig Wolf Eyes much yet)

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely agree aned endorse Duck Stab at being crazy classic. After that, I'm mad for Moleshow live in Holland (which being early 80s admittedly is less catchy than the 70s stuff), and def. Commerical Album is haunted melody pop brilliance. 90's Freakshow is more what I''d call the Residents Pet Sounds though. (meets carnivals).

-the-night-watch- (-the-night-watch-), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the sexiest music in the whole world. Why do people say it's ugly? (I'm not taking a shot at you, Jon L, you rule) It's fucking GORGEOUS! Is it because the singer has a high nasally voice? That's always been the best way to scare away the jerks. I need to start doing that in my vocals.
I find Duck Stab very soothing. I leave it on repeat all day sometimes as background music. I use it right before bed to lull me to sleep. This is just how my brain works, I guess.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

which album would you recommend to someone interested in them because of the Tuxedomoon connection?

baaderonixx, Friday, 13 June 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't help you, never heard Tuxedomoon

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

A friend mentioned Residents to me recently and it occurred to me I've never actually tried to listen to their stuff before, which struck me as a bit odd. I just know them from bits I heard on college radio.

Bimble, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

you pretty much can't go wrong with any Residents album 1972-1980. for tunes try either Duck Stab or Commercial Album. for concept albums try Fingerprince or Third Reich and Roll. Not Available is the emotional one.

you know what's good out of the recent stuff? Tweedles pulls off the whole literally stated narrative project they've been trying since God In 3 Persons -- but the music is better and the narrative's honed down to the ugliest essentials, I think it's the best thing they've done in 15-20 years.

Milton Parker, Friday, 13 June 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone know where I can hear The Bunny Boy? Prindle reviewed it today but I can't find a single place to download/stream it. Strongly debating whether catching them on the upcoming tour is worth the money.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

for archeologist fans of 'Santa Dog' curious about sample sources: http://closetcurios2.blogspot.com/2008/11/concert-percussion-for-orchestra.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeo_Roldán

The fifth and sixth of his Rítmicas (1930) appear to be the first works in the Western classical music tradition scored for percussion alone. -- take that, Varèse

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

which album would you recommend to someone interested in them because of the Tuxedomoon connection?

just picked this one up used at amoeba... http://www.discogs.com/release/339929

it's a good starting point for that sound, and obviously hearing tuxedomoon alongside some residents and snakefinger tracks will help cement that connection. as a whole it's a great listen with quite a lot of variety; one record is selected by ralph records mail-order subscribers and the other by the label/artists themselves.

also, i'm surprised that snakefinger's solo output hasn't been mentioned more on this thread. i'm quite a fan of 'manual of errors'

psychgawsple, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

How is "Not Available"?

European Bob (admrl), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL @ polite OLD ILM "I have disagree with you there"

European Bob (admrl), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

New fucking rude and snarky answers please

European Bob (admrl), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere in ILM but the Ralph Records webstore is closing down : http://www.ralphamerica.com/

As of August 15, Ralph America will be closing due to the general state of the music business and the expanding cost of creating physical products. It's been a great ride. Thanks for all your support over the past 11 years.

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 24 July 2010 08:27 (thirteen years ago) link

started a POX thread to commemorate: POX Ralph Records

one of the earliest, weirdest, most important independent record labels in the history of the country and I felt like giving up on this place when only one other person contributed a list, but at least sleeve gave a pretty great list

Not Available is fantastic, everything from 1971-1980 is five stars

Milton Parker, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

All I have is Icky Flix. All I need is Icky Flix.

Fellini.Kuti, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

milton totally OTM, but kids are too hip to be weird these days so whatevs.

'Not Available' is one of the best early 'difficult' records and a big gnarly concept album like Residents doing Tarkus.

I was sleep so I was lost (herb albert), Sunday, 25 July 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

N.A. has a lovely gauzy sound, possibly due to a primitive recording setup, it sounds kinda plaintive and wistful in places, which I would say is unusual for the Rez.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Sunday, 25 July 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

aw Milton I am glad my Chasms Accord fandom kept you from losing faith completely.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

will rep for this song all day everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDDVXlEG-_I

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

my god, this is so cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3hdT4vmBg

does anyone know is this is on any of their studio albums? i've been on Residents burnout for a while now but this is like the coolest thing I've ever seen

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

i guess "cool" aint the right word but it's the right balance of awesome and freaky and catchy, something the Residents don't achieve much

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's on The King and I. From the late 80s, I think.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

it's the right balance of awesome and freaky and catchy, something the Residents don't achieve much

well, they certainly haven't often achieved it this side of the 70s.

"burning love" originally appears on the king and eye (1989).

[wot EZ said]

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

hmm, i'm not digging that version at all; the one I posted is so much more upbeat, this one is just a painful drawl like 80% of their other material

all I wanted is for them to make a few more records like Duck Stab

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

you and me both

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

the cover of their latest album is total O.o

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/bc176122c13f9d1266b6ffb81746582c/3673501.jpg

they certainly seems to have sped up their release schedule in the last 5 or so years. is any of it good?

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

i have friends who are serious fans, but haven't followed them myself, so i'm not really the best person to ask. i will say that they've expanded their musical palette considerably in the last half decade, at least trying to expand beyond the the clonking rhythms, painful drawling and atonal synths. you get some tuneful female vocals and genuinely moving moments on demons dance alone and animal lover. not really my thing, but much more intriguing than the bulk of their 80s/90s work.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

I loved the concept behind "The Commercial Album" so much but it was sort of the point where I realized that they have like 60 albums out and only really do one thing, so if they change up things AT ALL that's a good sign. I mean an actual album of 40 fake commercial jingles would be awesome

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

that version of 'Burning Love' is closer to the live version documented on 'Cube E', one of their stronger 80's/90's projects. part 1 = cowboy music, part 2 = african american gospel / work songs, part 3 = Elvis

never really documented in full except on this live album that came out in 1994 which is worth tracking down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_E:_Live_in_Holland

Milton Parker, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

now that I'm looking on discogs, looks like they released a DVD of it in 2006 as well as an online only 'full' edition last year.

as well as something like 12 full length albums in the last three years! good grief. they're just going for it. a lot of this seems like compilations of between-project overflow, which is fine, except that it does make it impossible to keep track of which ones are the real 'albums'. and I'm going to have to hunt down that 'Cube E' DVD -- I was there for the 1989 SF show and I loved it

Milton Parker, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah RYM's residents page has become unreadable since they documented all the Talking Light albums, now the 2006-2011 portion of the discography is longer than everything else combined

a similar thing is happening with Tangerine Dream, the last 5 years have been a flurry of odd releases, between remixes of old stuff, bootlegs, special projects, albums full of spillover, then like genuinely new stuff, but nobody really seems to be paying attention anymore

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

from what i can tell, these are their "proper albums" post Y2K:

demons dance alone (2002)
animal lover (2005*)
tweedles! (2006*)
the river of crime (2006 - "radio show" style storytelling)
the voice of midnight (2007*)
the bunny boy (2008)
the ughs! (2009 - debatable, as it seems to consist of repurposed demos)
coochie brake (2011)

looking at the package design for these albums, along with the non-performative visual component of their work over the past 25 years or so (packaging, videos, etc.), it's hard not to see the residents as a band done in by consistently hideous design as much as by the grating sounds and jokes that haters usually single out. for artists whose rep is so heavily dependent on the eye candy appeal of their theatrical live shows, their overall design aesthetic is fucking horrible. if the shit looked better, i bet they'd get a bit more respect.

* on mute, which i find surprising for some reason

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

like frogs, i'd appreciate a knowledgeable but critically-distanced rundown of the recent stuff

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't keep up with the recent stuff either.

FYI: they've just released ERA B4-74 by the way (as a download), which contains original (= non-remixed) songs from the Warner Bros Album and even material from Ballad of the Stuffed Trigger. Stuff the band claimed would never officially be released. Would their financial situation be that dire nowadays?

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link


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