US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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after reading the Amazon headlines this morning it occurs to me that this presidency is like a murder mystery where the first half of the show runs through all the people with a motive for killing the asshole victim

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 10:07 (six years ago) link

oh eephus thank you I'd never heard that observation before

those people who actually vote must be the reason Mitt Romney won in 2012?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

Local TV news is also a staple of lounges/waiting rooms/dining rooms of places too cheap to pony up for cable...which, in way, is a good thing, because if they had cable, 90% of the time it'd be on Fox News.

...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

oh! I've never left the house in the 39 years I've been alive so

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

now that I know that the old people who actually vote are watching Sinclair broadcasting in their lounges I must agree that sounds extremely dangerous for our "democracy"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

i get your angle tomboto but there's a lot of space between 'Sinclair is the death knell for democracy' & 'Sinclair's content has zero effect on the world'

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

also i think the comparison to clear channel in the 90s is a moderately decent one, insofar as both involve consolidation of media overlords and the narrowing of content. also, clear channel buying everyone out totally sucked for radio, and still sucks today. i don't get the comparison to beer companies buying each other out at all

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

as always, i admit my inherent bias toward caring about how old people are brainwashed by their tvs because my parents are old people who are brainwashed by their tvs. they watch local news every day and trust them more than the national broadcasts. i know i need to stop trying to change their minds but i still care. but the obvious counterpoint is that even if sinclair was dissolved and all the local stations somehow went back to being owned by local entities, my parents would still vote republican. their behavior would still be the same. there would just be one less daily 30 minute voice reconfirming their bullshit every night.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

The common thread is that none of these are worthy of freaking out about because over the long term they are largely meaningless. The consolidation of control over relatively minor, quotidian aspects of our lives is the kind of thing people need to not freak out about in general, because the difference between Sinclair running things and the government running things is who you think is more accountable to you and what kind of oversight you're comfortable with. I think that's the argument worth having, not whether one entity should be in charge of most of some stuff (moot), or if some cranks forcing TV talking heads to read a script is a real threat to our institutions (which are moribund and crumbling as it is, for reasons much more frightening than oligopolies).

Anyway: John Bolton is the national security advisor and Trump is going to Korea soon.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

the other part of the common thread is that I used to care immensely about stuff like this and when I look back on what has actually happened that's changed the world, wow, I was dumb.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

He is risen, Hallelujah

Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. “Caravans” coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 1, 2018

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

Remember when the epithet "flip-flopper" used to be contemptuously applied to politicians who compromised on their earlier stated positions? Trump doesn't even bother to have reasons for jumping around from one position to another. He just uses agitation as a substitute for direction, as in "look at all that commotion; he must be getting things done!"

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

oh no, the DACA deal, we were so close

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

"catch & release" is yet another dehumanizing euphemism

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

man I guess I'm either weird or old for always watching at least 10 mins of localnbews, usually in the mornings

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

Do u vote tho

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link

i knew about the bullshit new "are you a US citizen?" question on the 2020 census, but i didn't know about this other stuff:

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/13/593272215/for-the-first-time-2020-census-will-ask-black-americans-about-their-exact-origin
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/01/582338628/-what-kind-of-white-2020-census-to-ask-white-people-about-origins

https://i.imgur.com/76OENDK.png

For the 2020 census, the U.S. Census Bureau is changing how it will ask black people to designate their race. Under the check box for "Black or African American," the bureau is adding a new space on the census questionnaire for participants to write in their non-Hispanic origins, according to a recent memo from the head of the 2020 census. "African American," "Jamaican" and "Nigerian" are listed as examples of origins on a questionnaire the bureau is testing for 2020.

The change means many black people in the U.S. may have to take a closer look at their family trees to answer what can be a thorny question: Where are you really from? While many black immigrants can cite ties to a specific country, that question is difficult, if not impossible, for many U.S.-born African-Americans to answer.

The bureau has not responded to NPR's questions about why it is making this change to both the "Black" category and the "White" category," which will also include a new write-in area for origins.

looks like moo vaughn's dreams are coming true

Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

atlantean

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

he's a secret census overlord

xp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

cash grab by ancestry.com imo

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

seems like there's a lot of public interest in this sort of information these days, good move that's quite a bit overdue

sleepingbag, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

The Sinclair news anchor hivemind is eye-rollingly untroubling in a world where like >50% of the American population possesses the skepticism and critical thinking skills to look askance at such a ridiculous maneuver. If that country ever existed, it's clear that it doesn't at this particular time.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

I’m sorry for being sick of ostensibly intelligent people having no memory and no ability to do math. That country exists right now. We live in it. Read the fucking polls and remember the popular vote.

For fuck’s sake.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

Dude, people on every side of the election were taken by propaganda that flattered their worldview. Even ostensibly intelligent people have to make the individual effort to avoid being conned.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

Sorry, not that many people voted for Jill Stein.

fajita seas, Monday, 2 April 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

wheres the new thread at

flappy bird, Monday, 2 April 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

For April I like, "big drug and people flows."

Yelploaf, Monday, 2 April 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

"Getting more dangerous"

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 April 2018 02:20 (six years ago) link

looks like moo vaughn's dreams are coming true

― Karl Malone, Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, the one good thing the Dump Admin is doing.

Of course, it wasn't their idea - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/04/federal-officials-may-revamp-how-americans-identify-race-ethnicity-on-census-and-other-forms/

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

cash grab by ancestry.com imo

― El Tomboto, Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe the 2000 census, etc. was too - https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2008/acs/2008_Brittingham_01.pdf. They were founded in '83.

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

a-a-a-and... that's a wrap!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

don't we usually lock these?

President Keyes, Monday, 2 April 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

yes. it's time to move on.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 April 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link


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