the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

me in the Onestop this morning.

"that'll be £3.80"

"yeah, I totally agree that Theresa May ought to be skinned alive and fed to feral dogs"

on message. i like it.

No worries, lads...

On Twitter, some prominent Labour supporters welcomed Izzard’s appointment. Musician Billy Bragg tweeted: “Christine Shawcroft is not an antisemite. She made a serious error of judgement, but parties that hope to form governments must expect to be held to higher standards. I campaigned with Eddie Izzard against the BNP in Barking and I welcome him to the NEC.”

Actor Tony Robinson also gave his backing, saying that Izzard was “a free spirit”.

ugh! double dose of Baldrick + Billy Bragg smugness, is anything more sick-making?

well, yes. Eddie Izzard is the answer!

god how much do i hate Tony Robinson

no surprise that Lib Dem enthusiast Billy Bragg is backing Izzard, nor that he wheels out his anti-nazi credentials to justify his pro-neolib credentials.

meanwhile, a multi-millionaire property developer doesn't like the Labour party any more. quel cauchemar.

i mean this is hard because if i see one more "but the Tories are massive racists so nobody on the Left can ever be bad or wrong ever" posts on Facebook i'm gonna start unfriending peeps but on the other hand i think we need to keep shaking the tree until all the rotten nuts have dropped to the ground and we can run a big fucking roller over the lot of them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmUE2uiXgAEWUMh.jpg

"meanwhile, a multi-millionaire property developer doesn't like the Labour party any more. quel cauchemar."

I spy in my @PrivateEye #JeremyCorbyn #UKlabour #SirDavidGarrard #bbcdp #LabourCoup #toomanyhashtags *tuts* pic.twitter.com/L0T7pD443x

— )GƎ( lᴙiG HTᴙAƎ (@Leelu_In_Lazuli) July 1, 2016

funnel stein has shat the bed

Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? You are just a shill for Jew haters. Words fail me.

— Daniel Finkelstein (@Dannythefink) April 1, 2018

finkelstein*

(((finkelstein)))

Louis, the parenthesis meme isn’t helpful!

Fuck the Fink for even trying it with Dancox.

Oh I was just riffing on the previous post, no offence intended

his comment about the Times level of "journalism" has been discovering the internet is otm.

Blimey, LJ, we'll all end up front page of the Times with more posts like that!

Is it anti-semitic to only care what jews and not gentiles say about Corbyn and anti-semitism? I ask because by following that policy I have managed to get a good signal:noise ratio.

Just when you think life couldn't get any more unbearable...

Eddie Izzard calls for Labour to 'stamp out' anti-Semitism

Comments in the groups show members advocating violence, reports the paper.

Ruh roh

xp I can't stand Izzard, but nothing he said there seems at all objectionable? This is exactly the same line that Corbyn has taken in his recent statements:

"This is a very important time for the Labour Party and we must stamp out completely the stain of anti-Semitism from a minority of members. It has no place in our party," Mr Izzard said.

"We must make amends and repair the damage with the Jewish community as Jeremy Corbyn has promised to do."

He's objectionable.

And now, having already been responsible for Brexit, he's going to be everywhere all the time.

true, but if he is going to be getting interviewed on tv etc then I'd rather have him take that line on anti-semitism than any other

But obviously we don't care what his line is on anti-semitism or anything else.

I’ve seen a lot of confirmation bias about either Corbyn or present-day Labour that comes from places of relative privilege or so-called ‘adults in the room’ - a few were white guys dragging Diane Abbott before the election in such a vituperative way, I thought her seat was in danger but they showed unexamined racial bias in their attitudes to her. The result told me these guys just had loud voices and the expectation that they should get their way all the damned time. That’s not to diminish in any way the toxicity of conspiracy theorists, but I just don’t associate that impulse with the Left in the way some others do, because it’s in all parties and no parties. It also made me sick to see the BoD accept solidarity from a Paisley and Norman Tebbit on Monday - talk about self-owns, right?

I’m gentile, but grew up in a town with a big Jewish community. It was huge because other suburbs bordering had covenants not to sell homes to Jewish families right through 1968. The people I grew up with were not a monolith and it has always concerned me to see people lazily reference ‘the Jewish lobby’ or say ‘Jewish people think X’. Every so often some other gentile would ask why I was in school on a high holiday, because of my dark hair and class rank, but that was the worst stereotype anyone I grew up with would bust out in public. The I/P arguments there were always between Jewish people on the rare occasions they happened.

More later - I am trying to flesh out some thoughts in a week that has been personally harrowing for me for other reasons.

I think the Victor Klemperer dairies should be taught in schools tbh. Apropos of nothing perhaps, but this is the new all purpose antisemitic thread, after all.

within his dairies is a narrative almost similar to being a fresh Syrian refugee in the UK rn tbh. As in a feeling of becoming considered less than human and worrying where that will lead in the future.

Feel like I've seen this photo of Corbyn, and only this photo, on various papers & sites the past week.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12265539.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Anti-semitism-in-Labour.jpg
Of course it is a crucial hatless photo (repeat, hatless).

it's depressing that there are so few Labour MPs that support Corbyn and the left, and even more depressing that this utter waste of space is one of them

In the midst of the crisis over #LabourAntisemitism, here comes @DerbyChrisW to the rescue. A short thread on why he needs to have the whip removed.
First he retweets Scott Nelson. (again)
He's been told who he is. (many times) so he gets pulled up on it. pic.twitter.com/TsRVWzTqnx

— Emma Picken. (@emmacpicken) April 2, 2018

Chris Williamson is an absolute arse, he will probably end up writing for The Canary when he finally gets fucked off.

whenever he shits his pants you get the usual "one of Corbyn's closest allies". he really needs to get shut.

this is different from Williamson's idiocy, but I guess you could file them both under the heading of 'Labour MPs being incautious on twitter' (unless Shah is somehow unaware of the context here?)

RIP Winnie Mandela :( pic.twitter.com/fo5cj1qGXi

— Naz Shah MP (@NazShahBfd) April 2, 2018

I'd guess Naz doesn't understand the Necklacing context or can't remember poor Stompie, otherwise she might have erred towards caution there!

how could you post that quote without being curious about the context, i don't buy it. i don't really care either, but if you actually want to be an MP and play along in celebrity parliament this is a poor move.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZxxfDGW0AAuunB.jpg

Good hustle if you can get into it.

xp yeah, I don't mean to suggest that it's actively harmful like Williamson's apologetics for anti-semitism are, but what is the upside to posting that

looks like the tweet has now been deleted and replaced by one that doesn't include the 'matches and necklaces' quote anyway

i think it's a testament to MPs' characters that voting to kill the poor drives them to drink

"you know abstaining from Welfare Bill votes is really hungry work for a left-winger like me..."

The 'London now has more murders than New York' story doing the rounds really is laughable pro-Tory propaganda ahead of the elections. But perhaps it will 'work'.

Corbyn nearly won the election by hammering the point home about police cuts by T. May costing the public dearly.

‘vote for us, the law-and-order party who slashed police budgets, presided over a rising murder rate, and bungled security so badly that suspects on our watch list attacked major english cities repeatedly’

or what suzy said

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/stop-jeremy-corbyns-trial-by-media-over-antisemitism?CMP=share_btn_tw

"It is not “whataboutery” to suggest that the debate on antisemitism has been framed in such a way as to mystify the real sources of anti-Jewish bigotry and instead to weaponise it against a single political figure just ahead of important elections."

40 senior academics condemn media bias against Corbyn and its coverage of antisemitism.

I know anything involving Lilico is fish-in-a-barrel stuff, but this is amazing, he might as well have included the expanding brain meme picture himself to save time

https://i.imgur.com/0SkeOGC.png

http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cbef69e2017c3661bb9f970b-pi

Not familiar with Andrew Lilico - Is this nonsense part of the old "we mostly like people like us, and if the arabs and orientals are sending their kids to the right schools then we'll grudgingly accept them" thing or is he a fucking idiot, or both?

andrew lolico, call him by his name </mark s>

balance

https://hatfulofhistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/phil-woolas-election-leaf-006.jpg

but yeah even by his standards that is a bracingly hot take

maybe somebody got him a Jordan Peterson book for Easter