the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Apparently Geoff Jewdas now has more followers on everyone's favourite mainstream news filter Twitter than the Board of Deputies. And they can't ALL be Dacrebots. XP!

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

hah good work!

It's very heartening that this May government are so incompetent that even when it looks like they have won, you just have to wait a couple of news cycles for the inevitable own goals and self-defeat to take it's course. After the USA + EU zone started evicting the Russian diplomats it looked like she would look strong and perhaps be in a winning situation...

calzino, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link

Re: jewdas, I was reminded of mark s writing this a few months back:

we're going to be seeing a lot more young people, highly political, who've been chatting shit abt TOWIE and whatever all their lives, who will honestly just dance rings round the gerontocracy facing them.

gyac, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

(which isn’t to say they’re not serious and can argue robustly or whatever, but their trolling and engagement is strong. The outlets challenging them haven’t got a clue how to handle them.)

gyac, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

Obvious parallel: the Parkland students.

suzy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

that toryboypierce headline is seriously one of the highlights of this year so far

||||||||, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link

are Jewdas youngsters?

DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

anyone under 35 seems like a youngster to me these days!

calzino, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/VwKW6p6buc

— jewdⒶs // יידהודה (@geoffreyjewdas) April 4, 2018

nxd, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link

Boris, "I am the United Kingdom."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43639801

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link

Thing is, when Boris said that they had definitely confirmed evidence that it came from Russia, I guessed he was lying. It sounded like all his other confirmed lies.

But then again, we need to have an example of Boris telling us something we don't know that turns out to be true.

Does anybody have one?

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

In his response, Mr Johnson told the interviewer that "people from Porton Down" were "absolutely categorical", adding: "I asked the guy myself. I said 'are you sure?', and he said 'there's no doubt'."

This, from the German TV interview last month, felt particularly Trump-like.

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

james ball............. don't tweet

||||||||, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

This was linked to on the 'is this antisemitism' thread but worth putting here too: http://www.brin.ac.uk/2017/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

Why no data on Hindus or Sikhs, I wonder.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

been reduced to other/miscellaneous? I think I remember a joke about that in The Simpsons.

calzino, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

"But then again, we need to have an example of Boris telling us something we don't know that turns out to be true."

Imagine a world where BJ would say something prescient, revelatory and also honest. So not happening, his level of education was far too shit to make him that good!

calzino, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

The Dream Of Rome (2006) is a book by Boris Johnson, in which he discusses how the Roman Empire achieved political and cultural unity in Europe, and compares it to the failure of the European Union to do the same.[1] It was aired as a BBC television documentary prior to its release as a book.

I remember this being on at the time but only saw a bit of it, didn't realise the agenda shoehorning even at that point.

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

been reduced to other/miscellaneous?

Yet both bigger than the Jewish community.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

... and the Baptists, and more Hindus than Methodists.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

I don't feel so bad now about some very shoddy work I did on an Anglican monastic church back in '10. One that Theresa May's dad had some history at.

calzino, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

the catholic labour vote in scotland could surely be helped if corbyn would only sing some rebs down the brazen head on glasgow derby day, we know you know the words, jez

http://www.brin.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Catholics-in-E-and-S.png

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link

I would v much like some/any of Corbyn's critics to name other pols/figureheads who have been consistently critical of Israel and are, according to them, inarguably *not* anti-semitic.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link

I agree that it's incongruous that Judaism gets its own column in the survey and British Sikhs and Hindus don't.

I have often thought that Sikhs have become curiously 'the forgotten minority' in Britain. When I was young they seemed more culturally prominent.

It is curious that Methodism is so pro-Con, as historically Methodism was supposed to be a foundation of Labour.

the pinefox, Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:26 (six years ago) link

those bloody Anglicans are a rum bunch as well, and they probably upset loads of Tory homeowners with the ancient chancel repair liability laws de-valuing their precious houses!

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:39 (six years ago) link

I'm wondering if the Church of Scotland figures are of members as opposed to adherents or churchgoers - I don't think the Church of England has membership, does it?

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:53 (six years ago) link

No.

I’d guess it is just self-identification with all of them.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:58 (six years ago) link

Tory vote for the Church of Scotland seems too high tbh.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:59 (six years ago) link

Maybe not, they got 28.6% of the vote, I suppose.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:03 (six years ago) link

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/files/2017/05/1.png

the massive pre-Thatcher/Hillsborough Tory support in Liverpool that was obv a sectarian thing, and the only relatively recent collapse of the LibDem vote there, was quite an interesting piece of voting history.

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:07 (six years ago) link

Ruth Davidson was criticised for visiting orange lodges during various campaigns, no? This is the top result for that, but I make no claims for the source.
https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/10971/tories-silent-growing-evidence-anti-irish-and-anti-catholic-bigotry-inside-party

gyac, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:57 (six years ago) link

http://images4.static-bluray.com/reviews/4245_5.jpg
"Tory councillor for Dunblane and Bridge of Allan Alastair Majury has pledged to undergo anti-sectarianism training"

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:02 (six years ago) link

Being made to watch the last Old Firm game I see.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link

wtf does anti-sectarianism training involve, i wonder

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:14 (six years ago) link

Bowler hats strictly prohibited.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link

I hope there is a reality show about this, sponsored by Kit Kat Orange.

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

a voigt-kampff test but all the questions are about the pope

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link

as a team building exercise they have to go and brick the windows of Catholic + C+E churches together.

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:24 (six years ago) link

oops Church of Scotland I should have said.

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link

maybe they just redirect the bigotry so you go in anti-catholic, come out as a raging islamophobe

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link

Major news on the 2017 Manchester bomber and UK govt support for groups connected to him. Would perhaps be lead news in the media but only on another planet. See next 4 tweets pic.twitter.com/dOPqPT73lv

— Mark Curtis (@markcurtis30) April 4, 2018

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link

"anti sectarianism training" - because bigotry is just a blip in yr ratiocination

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link

Maybe somebody shd have a word with Prevent about T May while we're on

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

clearly a national security threat: mixing with terrorists and with a FS who is the biggest casual warmonger in Europe since Ribbentrop!

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:34 (six years ago) link

she definitely has radicalized friends at least

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:37 (six years ago) link

An ode to @jeremycorbyn . Will some of the labour MP's and Lords grow a pair and get him OUT pic.twitter.com/ETU8ojle3R

— Lord Sugar (@Lord_Sugar) April 5, 2018

||||||||, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:13 (six years ago) link

who is worse. lord sugar or lady mone

||||||||, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link

it scans at least

imago, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link

Barely

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link

who is worse. lord sugar or lady mone

this is like asking whether you prefer bowel or liver cancer

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link


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