Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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I did the same, flappy

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

fwiw I rated Adore really high on albums but only picked 1 song for my ballot. maybe a lot of others did the same? it works the best as a regular album out of all of them imo

oh good i'm glad someone else thinks this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Ic8dhTa.jpg
3. Adore
156 points, 22 votes, 6 #1 votes

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

SD is so cohesive, even monochromatic in its sound, and even though the songs on Adore can be pretty different in style or production (like Appels + Oranjes vs. Dusty + Pistol Pete vs. Ava Adore vs. To Sheila), the feeling of wandering and being lost runs through Adore in a really compelling way. and the way it begins so hopefully with To Sheila and ends on such a down note with Blank Page.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

I think SD would just edge out Adore as best to listen to as a whole for me these days. Adore is a little too long but I suppose that does add to the feeling of getting lost in it. Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums.

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

just realized I still have my original CD copies of PI and MCIS, o happy day

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

they're similar in the sense that they're both really desperate and reaching, big gamble records, where on SD they were determined not to make a dog of an album and go back to working in record stores and serving coffee, and on Adore they're searching like I said and trying to come to terms with losing Jimmy.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

and that's not even getting into the lyrics

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

I don't really know how to reconcile 'Adore is too long' with 'Eye should probably have been put on it somewhere' and the only thing I'd definitely cut is Annie-Dog

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums

otm. hit after hit. the atmosphere they get out of a song as simple as "shame" is remarkable

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

Gish is sounding pretty nice now. "Snail" is really good. Maybe it just sounded too much like other things of the time in the 90s, idk? P sure Adore will never really be my thing but it was def a daring move for them.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

XP

That makes three of us!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

whoever said Snail is like the MCIS epics condensed into 4 minutes is so so so OTM

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

every guitar line in "snail" is fucking amazing

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

it was painful to not be able to vote for it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

my #10

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

3:24 this octave progression omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ThN4aEDU

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

When you wake up you're all weak / POLLING your life away

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UcjcOSp.jpg
2. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
218 points, 29 votes, 10 #1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/ZL2EDRT.jpg
1. Siamese Dream
252 points, 32 votes, 13 #1 votes

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

fair

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

Justice

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Siamese Dream
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Gish
Pisces Iscariot
Adore

I voted for more Mellon Collie tracks, but SD is the albumest album

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

hard to argue with these results

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

close enough

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

re: results

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

I can't believe gish is only no.5. By far their most fascinating album if you ask me. So full of psychedelic goodness. The drumming always totally kills me. A monster of an album. The only album after that i liked was mellon collie as it was so varied.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

first album i ever bought on CD. zero regrets.

xpost to SD pacing comment

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

also alex otm – had i voted, i woulda had Gish as #2.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link

I had Gish #2. I ignored it for a long time and was blown away when I finally looked backward from SD.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

everyone feels so locked in for 45 minutes.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long

really all of their pre-Machina albums are perfectly paced, Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

Full album results:

1 Siamese Dream 252 32 13
2 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 218 29 10
3 Adore 156 22 6
4 Pisces Iscariot 140 25 3
5 Gish 126 24 2
6 MACHINA/the machines of God 38 9 0
7 Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music 16 7 0
8 The Aeroplane Flies High 12 3 0
9 1979 EP 10 2 0
10 Lull EP 6 2 0
10 Ogilala 6 1 0
12 Rarities and B-Sides 4 1 0
14 Earphoria 2 1 0
14 Zero EP 2 1 0

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records

I will choose to interpret this as meaning that Corgan was a seasoned participant in Pauline Oliveros's sonic meditation exercises.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

lol

http://www.crestfallen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/bc_bv.jpg

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

lol at no one voting for oceania

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

yeah i was a little surprised that ogilala (not even a pumpkins album!) was the only post-machinas album to get a vote

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

No real surprises yet - I fully expected Adore to be up there, as much as I disagree with it, particularly not over Gish but I think Corgan was on form during the MACHINA period, it just wasn't presented in the best way.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link

Someone had Ogilala at number 3.

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link

I would have voted for Mary Star of the Sea if I'd allowed it though. my ranking:

MCIS
SD
Adore
(Mary Star of the Sea)
(hypothetical Machinas best of)
Gish
Machina II

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

No votes for Oceania because I didn't submit a ballot.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

couldn't decide which 25 pumpkins songs were actually worth talking about eh

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

xp nice

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

anyway I'm sure there will be surprises for some of you in the tracks rollout

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

No, I couldn't be arsed - putting together a ballot wasn't a priority and I would have found it impossible anyway. I'm sure almost every song that places will be at the least very good, as long as people haven't got stupid and filled their ballots full of lower tier b-sides.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

what's your favorite b-side turrican

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

Policing what people should talk about in the voting thread was a priority

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

xpost:

'Starla'! Looking at the tracklisting for Pisces Iscariot, I could have easily voted for stuff like 'Whir' and 'Frail+Bedazzled' but not all of their B-sides/outtakes are of the same quality.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

Mellon Collie
Siamese Dream
1979 EP
Pisces Iscariot
MACHINA

Gish was in the #5 spot until late on - the softer psychedelic moments really make that album for me. I can definitely get behind Siamese Dream as #1, it was my favourite for years but I've just come to love the unwieldy sprawl of MCIS even more.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

my albums ballot:

Mellon Collie
Adore
Pisces Iscariot
Siamese Dream
Gish

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link


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