No votes for Oceania because I didn't submit a ballot.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
couldn't decide which 25 pumpkins songs were actually worth talking about eh
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
xp nice
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
anyway I'm sure there will be surprises for some of you in the tracks rollout
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
No, I couldn't be arsed - putting together a ballot wasn't a priority and I would have found it impossible anyway. I'm sure almost every song that places will be at the least very good, as long as people haven't got stupid and filled their ballots full of lower tier b-sides.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
what's your favorite b-side turrican
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
Policing what people should talk about in the voting thread was a priority
― jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
xpost:
'Starla'! Looking at the tracklisting for Pisces Iscariot, I could have easily voted for stuff like 'Whir' and 'Frail+Bedazzled' but not all of their B-sides/outtakes are of the same quality.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
Mellon CollieSiamese Dream1979 EPPisces IscariotMACHINA
Gish was in the #5 spot until late on - the softer psychedelic moments really make that album for me. I can definitely get behind Siamese Dream as #1, it was my favourite for years but I've just come to love the unwieldy sprawl of MCIS even more.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
my albums ballot:
Mellon CollieAdorePisces IscariotSiamese DreamGish
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
Albums:
AdoreMACHINA/the machines of godSiamese DreamPisces IscariotMachina II: Friends and Enemies of Modern Music
huh, forgot i even voted for machina ii
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
My album ballot:Siamese DreamMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessPisces Iscariot
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link
1. Siamese Dream2. Gish 3. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
Siamese DreamMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessPisces IscariotAdoreGish
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
Siamese DreamGishOgilalaPisces IscariotMCIS
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
Ogilala at 3 is probably a challop, but I can listen to those first three albums the whole way through and enjoy every second. There are tracks on PI, MCIS, and Adore that I rate very high above anything on Ogilala. I'm sure Ogilala benefits from being fresh at the moment as well.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link
Pisces Iscariot AdoreMellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
mine wasAdoreSiamese DreamMellon CollieGishMachina II
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
Pisces IscariotSiamese DreamGishMellon CollieAdore
― had (crüt), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
I shoulda voted for the Zero EP! I played the hell out of that back in the day.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
AdoreGishMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessMachina I/The Machines of GodMachina II/Friends and Enemies of Modern Music
I can live with where Adore placed.
I should’ve voted for the Pastichio Medley
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
Flappy, I did! :)
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
champagne for my five real friends who also had adore at no. 1
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
I've got my glass ready, Brad
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
Listening to SD (again) now. I didn't really think about the timeline before: so Loveless was released six months after Gish, which might go some way towards explaining the change in their sound between these two albums.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
Yea that’s why Billy got Alan Moulder to mix it
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
Ah, interesting. I didn't know he explicitly sought Moulder out for that reason.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:31 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wish i had a good picture of me drinking with my tattoo visible but all i have is this single chocolate
https://i.imgur.com/zbnFptb.png
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
*bows down*
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
oh hell yes
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
Perfect. Lock thread.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link
anticipating tomorrow. or the next few days. i'm sure this song will place high. i never liked it, never understood why it was so beloved, i don't dislike it, i'm not sure... but this is an amazing performance. the sound of the distortion kicking in is so amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3jh91rCiY
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
gonna have to crack open a thesaurus for more superlatives tonight
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
It's kind of smashing pumpkins' purple rain
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link
yeap, will be in the Top 3.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
holy shit Purple Rain comparison is OTM. they actually begin with the same chord (Bsus2)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
i think it could potentially be no. 1
which, i'd be down
xp
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link
and both feature Eb. but yeah. in mood and feeling it's totally their Purple Rain
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link
flappy you've never liked "mayonaise" :O
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link
it also features a toy guitar feedback track that adds loveless style studio intrigue. it won a rolling stone readership poll lol.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link
yeah it's either 1979 or Mayo at #1. i can't think of anything else that has more broad appeal among hardcore & casual pumpkins fans
xp yeah i don't know... it feels so on the nose, so much of a trad "power ballad," i mean that Purple Rain comparison is so so otm... the feedback squeals are great obv, i don't like the lyrics, but that hasn't stopped with me plenty of pumpkins songs lol... it feels stock somehow, whereas idk, Hummer is utterly of another world and impossible to categorize. Soma is maybe the other SD track most similar to Mayo, and I've never liked that one either that much, it just feels less obvious... like Mayo sounds like a song that was always written, but in a bad way... if that makes sense. it probably doesn't
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
no sentence with bad and mayonaise will make sense to me
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link
but I can certainly understand preferring hummer and soma
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link
i like to imagine that billy saw jimmy put a dollop of mayo in his chili at lunch. billy scooted his chair back, making a screeching sound that silenced the room. he exited the cafeteria and went straight to the tour bus where he wrote mayonaise. the feedback is a reference to the room-silencing sound of that chair.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link
all things relative with SP, honestly by anyone else a masterpiece imo. it feels out of place coming from them, being so obvious and... almost like an attempt by another band at writing a great smashing pumpkins song (and not a parody)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link
i ran this poll:
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream poll
Option Votes9. Mayonaise 241. Cherub Rock 147. Soma 118. Geek U.S.A. 103. Today 75. Rocket 64. Hummer 411. Silverfuck 46. Disarm 312. Sweet Sweet 110. Spaceboy 12. Quiet 113. Luna 0
― Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link
Luna getting shut out... I don't even know what to say
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
It's no "Hummer" or "Soma" but it... really doesn't sound like a generic ca. 1993 power ballad to me. I like how it takes its time. I don't think vocals even enter until about a minute and a half in? 2xp
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link