Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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Disarm has to be last, not Luna.

jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link

I hope Disarm places. So easy to make fun of the lyrics, but unlike a few of the MCIS singles, the song is great

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link

it will make the Top 66

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

Mayonaise just has a perfect chord progression (written by James!). I'd never thought about Purple Rain as a comparison point before but that's really otm. it's Purple Rain meets Loveless

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:32 (six years ago) link

"Today" is probably my least favorite from SD tbh

had (crüt), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link

v likely Billy's most effortless-seeming set of lyrics, too xp

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link

the guitar solo in the intro is so subtle and expressive

Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 April 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

the pinch harmonics take me out of it a bit tbh

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link

nice work on the thread title

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link

you're welcome

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:53 (six years ago) link

intro to mayo made me love this tho

https://media.musiciansfriend.com/is/image/MMGS7/M-107-Phase-100-Effects-Pedal/151106000000000-00-500x500.jpg

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:02 (six years ago) link

The intro to Mayo (intro de Mayo?) is always what comes to mind when I think "what does a Strat sound like?"

startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 5 April 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link

my albums poll:

Adore
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
MACHINA/the machines of God
Siamese Dream
Pisces Iscariot

Nourry, Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:35 (six years ago) link

I've never quite gelled with Siamese Dream. Like someone said upthread, it's concise and monochromatic. I have difficulty discerning between all the songs, especially on the first side. And while I love certain tracks (Soma especially) it's just not as exciting as what else is on offer in the rest of their catalogue.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:24 (six years ago) link

And I've always felt like Disarm is a massive drag.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:24 (six years ago) link

if were doing a "Worst Smashing Pumpkins Songs" Poll, I'd strongly have to consider "Disarm" as my number one - and that's even though I either dislike/haven't heard/don't care about most Pumpkins songs after 2001.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:27 (six years ago) link

had no idea Disarm was so bad and hated. Always assumed I was on my own in that one.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:38 (six years ago) link

I don't know if it's universally hated? I've just always recoiled from it - when I was a teenager who listened to Siamese Dream too much, it was that song I always rushed to skip. Why? Not the music so much, but the lyric and the vocal, maybe because - as I think about it now - it was too direct, too personal, too naked, or something. And it's not the only early Pumpkins song that was extra intimate, but this took that to an uncomfortable level, with a drama (?) that turned me off and still does.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

Disarm is the first one I heard and I have massive affection for it. Siamese Dream in general is the one where they just nail and perfect their aesthetic, they never quite get it right after that so I suspect Butch Vig was a masssive influence.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:46 (six years ago) link

I can sometimes get into it if I'm really in a mood for it but I usually skip it (and "Spaceboy" *ducks*). U mad otherwise though, dog latin.

I really like "Tonight Tonight" and "Thirty-three" so it's not just ballad hate.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:48 (six years ago) link

Knowing that Disarm lurks inside of Siamese Dream is probably the primary reason I don't go on Smashing Pumpkins kicks more often. Goddamn overplayed black-and-white old man Unforgiven video was a plague on MTV.

how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:48 (six years ago) link

To echo something a few people have said above: I find it hard to return to SD at all now, for the same reason that it's hard to listen to a lot of albums I listened to too often in high school. See also Nevermind and early Pearl Jam.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link

Maybe I'll learn to like it in this poll, but it was pretty traumatic for me at the time.

how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link

'Disarm' was also the first song I heard by them (a Now compilation I think). It wasn't until I heard a student band do a cover of 'Today' in a school assembly that I figured the Pumpkins might be worth checking out. Then I got '1979' and thought 'huh this is nothing like I was expecting'

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link

I loved this strange wonderful album of washed-out guitar epics. It was kind of a letdown when the song the world loved from it was this one atypical over-emoting ballad with a ridiculous tautology in its chorus.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:56 (six years ago) link

Same with Mellon Collie I guess. For an album that indulges in its diversity, the favourite and big single (1979) sounds absolutely alone in terms of style (and lyrics)

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link

Lol, now I want to listen to "Disarm". I'll admit that when I first listened to the album, even "Disarm" seemed like a weird song to be 'the ballad' in a world where Aerosmith was still making the most popular rock ballads.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link

Play bass like you're barely alive!
https://media.giphy.com/media/9Y5ddKxG7nULYJUZhT/giphy.gif

Breathe through your mouth, James (don't breathe too much).
https://media.giphy.com/media/1XhrmivUUrrxtCPRrH/giphy.gif

Drink of this cup, for it is...oh, maybe better not.
https://media.giphy.com/media/fiwkwEt2SpwNhwrU7L/giphy.gif

how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I mostly remembered why I usually skip it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

I can sometimes get into it if I'm really in a mood for it but I usually skip it (and "Spaceboy" *ducks*).

I don't like Spaceboy either, it just kind of drags. Disarm isn't a terrible song but the strings and bells are too much for me.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link

I like "Spaceboy" a lot

Currently trying to reconfigure the MCIS era tracks as one long single-dsc album + one "outtakes" album a la SD + PI. For some reason I never tire of resequencing these songs.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link

my albums ballot:

Siamese Dream
Pisces Iscariot
Adore
Gish
Mellon Collie

except for 1979 I could exchange Mellon Collie & the first Machina. Mellon Collie has a few other good singles but as an album experience I'd rather avoid it (oh & Galapogos is good too).

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link

I kinda feel about Siamese Dream vs Mellon Collie the way I do about Monster vs New Adventures In Hi-Fi : I strongly prefer the earlier of each pair but ILM seems to lean the other way, & I wonder if it's related to which one you got into first.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

ILM voted Siamese Dream #1!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

haha that's true! I didn't notice lol @ me. I was responding to the latest line of discussion against Siamese Dream, I guess.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/tuAhTCG.jpg
66. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
110 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

who voted this #1?! absolute madman (in a good way)

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

Ha, this is the brief instrumental that opens the album?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

yes

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

Not my number one, but I can kinda understand. Gets stuck in my head a hell of a lot.

how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link

This has me wondering how much of MCIS is gonna place. I'm gonna say 20 out of 28.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

this placing where it did is a big part of why I decided to go with 66 tracks for the rollout (as well as the 33 connection), it was too fitting. it's a nice intro and I like the reprises at the end of the album and in Thru the Eyes of Ruby

for reference track ballots were scored 50-48-46-44-...-8-6-4-2

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

It wouldn't have made my ballot, but if I had to condense Mellon Collie down to Siamese Dream, I'd still retain it as I love it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

*Siamese Dream length.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link

I agree with that. Whenever I try removing it, it just sounds wrong.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/7thm3Ic.jpg
65. Stumbleine
112 points, 6 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link

I prefer 'Mellon Collie' to 'Tonight Tonight'. It's a sweet little intro to what's to come and then Tonight Tonight comes in with its mid-tempo bluster and I hit the skip button. Didn't vote for it but hah at the number 1

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link

I must have been listening to the White Album at the same time as Mellon Collie cos Stumbleine sounds like an answer to Cry Baby Cry whenever I hear it

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

the mellon collie title track is such a good way of opening this. kudos ufo. can’t believe it made no. 66 exactly

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

I usually skip straight to "Tonight Tonight", honestly. I'm a huge fan of instrumental music but "Mellon Collie" seems pretty uninteresting to me. I do like "Stumbleine" a lot, although it didn't make my ballot.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link


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