Good placement.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
The Wall for Generation X xps
― how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
"We're the best band in the world and we can do anything" albums
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
I still really like Disarm, it's nice as a change in sound on SD and the strings are lovely, especially in the climax "the killer in me is the killer in youuuuuuu"
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Mellon Collie was my #1 song
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
the transition between "rocket" and "disarm" is so good as someone pointed out on the voting thread
lol flappy!!!!!
On some days it’s my favorite piece of music. Says more than anything else on the record without any words.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
MCIS was one of the first things I ever learned on piano.
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
I guess we should be grateful "Disarm" avoided getting the Johnny Cash American Records treatment
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
Would have been pretty great in fairness.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
X.Y.U. - that bit where he sings 'BWABEEEH GOODBYYYE (bye bye)' is pure lol. That song is just lol-a-minute but also kind of scary.
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/3UdrHqL.jpg59. Suffer128 points, 5 votesFrom: Gish, 1991
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
ah good some Gish action. I don't remember how this one goes, so this bodes well for the rest of the poll
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
great song, it still pops into my head all the time
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link
the "too late to discover" secret chorus buried in that song is kinda the peak of psychedelic pumpkins for me (well after all of "snail" and "rhinoceros")
the only pumpkins song to feature a psychedelic slide whistle solo?
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link
oh it's this one. it's great. makes me think of sea merchants in top down RPGs
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link
Disarm at 60 is kind of wild. It's their 6th most popular song on Spotify and, like it or not, one of the iconic Pumpkins songs.
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
bead curtains and hookah pipes in aural form
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
xp ILM has always been contrary. Like when we voted 'Good Vibrations' as the worst song on Smiley Smile
"disarm" is also one of their best videos imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
for a band whose fame coincided with the peak of '90s mtv most of their music videos are kinda weird fiascos though
Disarm was the first song I learned on guitar (MCIS was the second) so I'll always have a soft spot for it.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
'Glass and the Ghost Children' is a stunner - one of the tracks on MACHINA that works, although I have a preference for the first part. 'Farewell and Goodnight' is pretty, but I never find myself listening to it as a standalone track, always in context. 'x.y.u.' was a grower for me back when I first heard the album, but fucking love it now.
Mellon Collie and The Beatles both have this "every song given its own distinct sonic treatment" feel, as Brad says, but I think Mellon Collie is more excessive and a better record. There's a lot of stuff on The Beatles which is tossed off fluff, but Corgan for the most part just can't leave things alone, and that's why Mellon Collie works for me. Quantity, diversity and quality.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
I sometimes get the one-word song titles on Gish mixed up but yeah I like this one a lot (although I heard the Tricky song that samples it first so it took a bit of getting used to).
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
'Suffer' is great - love the drumming and the way everything generally sounds on the track. I rate the two songs after it on Gish higher, though!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
although I heard the Tricky song that samples it first
i COMPLETELY forgot about this
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
re: White Album comparisons Corgan's said that his goal with MCIS was more The Wall rather than The White Album
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/59BeivE.jpg58. Tear134 points, 4 votesFrom: Adore, 1998
https://i.imgur.com/M4Xrzvi.jpg58. Real Love134 points, 7 votesFrom: Machina II/The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music, 2000
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
He should have lied and told everyone it was a concept album, just to see what crazy meanings the hardcore would read into it while trying to figure out what the non-existent concept was.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
Ah, not a huge fan of either of these, although the riff on 'Tear' is quite nice.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, April 5, 2018 9:00 AM (eighteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i mean it's not like machina's concept is meaningful or interesting so he essentially did this later for a different album
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link
overdriven machina-style production really works on "real love," which is prob somewhat due to how much sunnier it is than anything that actually made the album
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
With Every Light isn't sunny enough for you?
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link
At least MACHINA has a concept, though!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
Hard to break through the Machina production on first listen. I think there's a nice synth in there.
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
Yeah, wtf, 'With Every Light' is one of their sunniest ever tracks.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
This is all for the meantime, though there will be more some time later today.
I love Real Love, the best of the noisy Machina II production and reminiscent of YMMR-era MBV in its swirling rush. On the other hand, Tear is one of the weaker tracks on Adore and definitely two minutes too long - it'd be fine if that synth interlude was the outro.
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
― Fetchboy, Thursday, April 5, 2018 9:04 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sunnier with a ton of distorted guitars, fine ("with every light" is a v sad song imo)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
"Real Love" made my ballot. One of their most shoegaze-like tracks. It glistens.
like it or not, one of the iconic Pumpkins songs
I'm guessing enough of us were in the "not" camp.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
"tear" was the first album track i enjoyed on adore before the rest of the record started making sense me, so i'll always love it even if i think it's the most obvious and obnoxious six minutes on the record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Originally written for Lost Highway but rejected by Lynch
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
the synth interlude is one of my favorite moments in the whole discography though. a lot of adore tracks feel like they become different songs in their bridges ("daphne," "behold the nightmare," "blank page" and this one)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link
ha, I'm just now seeing the pissy electric Disarm from the 1994 VMAs, which was apparently a 'fuck you' to MTV for forcing them to play that song
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
They did the same version on that English show The Word in early 94. They could’ve played anything they wanted (Green Day played Armatage Shanks the same night, a song that wouldn’t be released for another year). I look at that Disarm performance as the climax of the band/Billy’s attitude during Lollapalooza, which yes, is m/l “FUCK YOU”
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link
they've always been a v antagonistic live band
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
i think it sucks for the most part (billy's live voice is intolerable between 94-... zwan?)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link