Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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I think it very much depends on where in the US you might go. Like when I lived in AZ I'd see random dudes walking around with a holster, but I haven't seen that anywhere else I've lived.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

I live in LA and the most armed people I see regularly are guards outside of Synagogues. I think in response to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

I can't think of the last time I've seen someone armed who wasn't a cop tbh

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

ok thanks

my mom told me recently about eating at applebees in their dumb suburb of atl & the people next to them had their handguns on the table & it was really jarring for me, like, people live this way in "civilized" places? ugh.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

hey, in uncivilized places they hold them under the table

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

if he has a shitload of tattoos up and down his arms he looks an awful lot like the guy I saw hogtied by the Emeryville PD this morning on San Pablo ave

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

def see the occasional sidearm out here in nm, but not as frequently as what i experienced in montana

gbx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

idk I guess that's not helpful. it's weird as hell, all of it

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

Dont see it in the northern front range of CO personally.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

they have guns that shoot out ink to tye-dye the squares iirc

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

I'm (pleasantly) surprised that I don't see guns on people in and around Chicago. Last time I was really forced to acknowledge one was when I was following a cop up the stairs to the L and realized the exposed barrel of his holstered weapon was pointed pretty much between my eyes. It was...sobering.

Orbital Ribbonbopper, Inventor of Flying and Popcorn (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

One thing we should do is make gun disposal always easy everywhere.

― fajita seas, Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:31 PM (yesterday)

a large federal buyback program makes a lot of sense to me

k3vin k., Friday, 6 April 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link

Texas legalized open carry but I haven’t noticed a single person actually doing so. Maybe in redder areas but I’ve barely set foot in rura Texas over the last couple of years.

Had a guy throw a fit the day I installed the no open carry signs in my stores but not a peep since.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

did he actually have a gun or no?

I was in some east Dallas suburbs years ago and there were some “no guns allowed in the establishment” signs on some restaurants, I think? it was also a dry county

alvin noto (mh), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

i have never seen anyone open carry in west texas

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link

did he actually have a gun or no?

I didn't see one but maybe. His rant was the usual YOUR STORE WILL BE SAFER shit. I started to explain the business decision of not wanting to creep out families (and my employees) but decided it wasn't worth it and told him to just leave before I called the cops.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 6 April 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link

I've seen exactly one person open-carrying, once, in a diner in Wisconsin, and he seemed like the sort of peckerwood dork I would make fun of ... if he didn't have a handgun strapped to his body.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 April 2018 04:11 (six years ago) link

I've never seen anyone who open carries here in Austin, but I have known various dudes with unreasonably large arsenals of firearms including a former misanthropic co-worker, head of computer dev, who kept a bunch of modded semi-automatics in the trunk of his Corvette Stingray.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 6 April 2018 04:19 (six years ago) link

I used to see people open-carrying sidearms at least once a month in North Idaho - without exception they were 20-40 year old skinny white dudes in polo shirts and khakis or cargo pants and looked like IT guys or college republican nerds and I felt were just trolling liberals and itching for people to confront them about it so they could argue about RONPAUL and THEIR FREEDOM. I'm pretty sure that all of them could have inspired the "I studied the blade" meme.

I guarantee that there were lots of concealed carry people around and my impression is that they disliked the open carry types for making them seem crazy despite their own perpetual fantasies about being crime victims and/or about being the good guy with the gun when something finally happened to allow their true heroism to be exposed.

joygoat, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

Yes, here's an example of the perspective joygoat describes:

http://www.gunsandtactics.com/unintended-consequences-in-your-face-open-carry

bone thugs & prosody (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

lmao at this milquetoast pleading for civility when our rights are being threatened. change only comes as a consequence of direct action. i'm taking my business to caribou coffee, hardee's and green burrito and I encourage you all to do the same!!!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link

oops wrong board

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link

Teachers in Erie County district get bats as a reminder to fight back in a shooting https://t.co/oKQgQbqBat

— Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (@PittsburghPG) April 10, 2018

sure

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

One should never bring a fruit bat to a flying-fox fight iirc

like hell, but with more ketchup (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

Teachers in Erie County district get bats as a reminder to fight back in a shooting

Yes, it is important to remember that, when confronted by a heavily armed person using your immediate environs as a free-fire zone, that you should always run at the shooter, holding whatever object comes quickly to hand, whether it's a bat, a cell phone, or one of your shoes. The essential thing is to engage the shooter! That's the kind of quick-witted reaction that will put an end to a show of deadly force in a hurry.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

they weren't even full-size bats

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

the school dsitrict's not made of money, you know

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link

xxp You joke, but there are constantly active shooter workshops I've been exposed to that espouse "run, hide or fight" as your options

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 03:19 (six years ago) link

note the order of preference

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link

if you must fight, they say do exactly what you just said - pick up random objects and throw them :(

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:25 (six years ago) link

^ certainly that's a much better tactic than frowning, finger-shaking and tut-tutting, but it's still is a last-ditch option when your assailant has such a massive advantage in weaponry, planning and surprise. Evasion will always be more reliable for your chance of personal survival, when there is any kind of escape route at all. If the choices are passively submit to die or else fight, the exact odds of winning the fight don't matter much.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:39 (six years ago) link

actually you’re supposed to barricade and shelter in place before trying to escape

the late great, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:33 (six years ago) link

then run, then fight (if cornered)

the late great, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:33 (six years ago) link

yup the hide part
i want to tut-tut a man to death now that you mention it

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:43 (six years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-waffle-house-shooter-20180423-story.html

jeepers it's hard to believe a guy like this slipped through the cracks of our already too-restrictive gun laws...

omar little, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

Some guy has been walking around my neighborhood with an AR-15 strapped to his back, apparently waiting for people to call the cops on him. When the police arrive he videotapes them and yells about his 2nd Amendment rights to open carry. The police sent out a statement that basically says he's not breaking any laws but is clearly an asshole.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link

that feeling when you're making the opposite point of the one you're trying to make

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

If there was a law it would be against it

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

dare I make the assumption that this is a white guy

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

Well he's still alive, isn't he?

pplains, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

I wonder whether he'd be willing to do it in blackface. Ask him.

NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

A shooter has been reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School, the school district there said. The district is on lockdown.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 18 May 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

Per two law enforcement sources, at least 8 confirmed fatalities. https://t.co/1JLOT8cPUm

— St. John Barned-Smith ⚔️ (@stjbs) May 18, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

Quotes from a local TV news site:

"I was sitting in my classroom and I heard really loud booms, but I really didn't know what they were at first," a student said. "Then, I realized what they were when I heard screaming."

"I never thought it would happen here," said Tyler Turner.

"It hurts my heart to see this happening," another student said. "I don't feel safe in this town anymore ... There was nothing we could do but run."

Saw on FB that a friend's husband who works part-time at the school is safe. He was driving in at the time and was told to turn around.

<Invocation of Neanderthal's DN>

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

this is barely popping up on my Twitter feed, everyone's too busy dragging Jordan Peterson.

evol j, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

massacre debate rinse repeat

omar little, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

I think I know someone who occasionally works that Galveston ER ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link


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