show i just posted might also be ground zero for billy trying out stupid irritating shit vocally
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
ooh thank you
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
Super relieved and stoked that Tear made it; late cut for me, one of my favorites from Adire. I remember one review comparing it to the Waterboys. It has a real nightpunk vibe
― bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
*Adore
the way he sings “I love you” in Hummer from that 3/15/93 has that Gish yodel
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
I am very much enjoying reading this thread. One of those threads where the discussion of the music is more interesting than the music itself. Except Gish of course but that album and the amazing songs on it have hardly been posted about. One thing I don't like about the albums after Gish is Corgan's vocal delivery which I have difficulties to digest as it seems so theatrical. On Gish I somehow buy his kind of angsty vocals.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
I've often thought the vocal lines on Gish were almost additional guitar melodies, they kind of sit in to the tracks along with the other instruments. SD / wider exposure needed a "front man" type approach and the vocals were foregrounded. Probably why I think of Gish as a goth album and the others as rock.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
Glad to see "Glass and the Ghost Children" place - the first of my votes to do so.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
XYU - if we'd had a 50 track ballot limit I might have voted for it.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link
Missed today's roll-out, but off to a flying start! So happy to see 'Farewell and Goodnight' place <3
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
going to do a few more now:
https://i.imgur.com/W0CmQ9W.jpg56. Ava Adore142 points, 6 votesFrom: Adore, 1998
https://i.imgur.com/mbFgYxT.jpg56. Spaceboy142 points, 6 votesFrom: Siamese Dream, 1993
https://i.imgur.com/KyFhTho.jpg56. Wound142 points, 7 votesFrom: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
WOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link
Cool seeing "Wound" place. late cut on my ballot.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GA5kP5y.jpg53. Pug150 points, 6 votesFrom: Adore, 1998
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link
oh cool, i'm not at work and can follow this live right now.
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link
haven't said this yet but great job ufo!
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
"Spaceboy" for the Mellotron love
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
Ava Adore is SO LOW
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link
Wound was a Machina track that I'd previously overlooked but it's one of the best from it now I think.
Ava Adore is a weird one, I sort of wish the drums were a little more forceful or something? do love the solo onwards though
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link
and another three-way tie
https://i.imgur.com/SvPQIrK.jpg52. Age of Innocence154 points, 5 votesFrom: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000
https://i.imgur.com/GYaTCOE.jpg52. I of the Mourning154 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 voteFrom: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000
https://i.imgur.com/LgySnqZ.jpg52. Crush154 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 voteFrom: Gish, 1991
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link
is there a Spotify playlist? i don't see one, i will make one and post it in a few minutes.
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link
I haven't made one, but that's much appreciated, thanks
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
Crush just made the bottom of my ballot. Gorgeous song.
― jmm, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link
The top 20 is gonna be a humdinger
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link
I don't really like Age of Innocence much and think it's a weird closer (With Every Light would have been perfect) but I of the Mourning was another great discovery from this. It builds to a great climax, I just wish it wasn't swallowed by the Machina blur so much.
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link
"I of the Mourning" made my ballot. Good catchy tune.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link
this is a collaborated list, so people who are able to update this list during the day please do.
ILM The Smashing Pumpkins
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link
^^^Spotify
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link
"Age of Innocence" always felt like a bonus track to me. Ends the album on a weird note. Agree that "With Every Light" or even "Blue Skies Bring Tears" would've ended the album much better.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
14 songs deep and we've got almost 1/3 of Machina I!
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
And you KNOW "Try Try Try" (at the least) is up ahead.
“i of the mourning” was my no. 1!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link
Radio/Raaaadiooooooooooooo
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link
Surprised that Age of Innocence placed. Happy that Ava Adore placed low. Very happy to see Wound make it, it was my #25, would be higher but I haaaaaate the mix on the album. Great song though, one of the best of the era. and I of the Mourning was in my top 10, an amazing song that has grown on me more than any other in recent years. I couldn't care less about it 5 years ago, now it's easily one of my favorite Pumpkins songs, if only for the second verse:
I blow the dust off my guitarIn the attic with the starI read your letter to feel betterMy tears upon the fading ink
this is a fantastic, straightforward performance and might be what turned me on this song (also the delivery of that second verse is perfect):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZLXemEKhQ
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
again, emotionally resonant on its own, and doubly so when looked at in the context of where Billy and the band were at in 2000.
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link
Pug rules so hard
― Simon H., Friday, 6 April 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
Only got to know and love Pug when I heard the Arising tour version from early 1999. I wish Billy sang it higher on the record, besides being heavy as fuck, his vocal delivery is so much better here imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGkIk8A0Pw
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
i voted for “age of innocence” btw. i love it as a closing track bc it’s sorta got a “one last midtempo rocker before we hang it up” vibe, and billy’s lyrics in the bridge feel like his idea of an epitaph for the band
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link
btw, ufo, nice work with the text on the images. It's very seamless.
― jmm, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link
the font match the records, very nice!
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link
yes very nice work ufo
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link
OTM
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link
i had age of innocence very high.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:10 (six years ago) link
just finished listening to what we have so far. the Spotify is already about an hour and twenty minutes and really, really mellow so far.
can't wait until tomorrow.
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link
Crush is my first to place, what a great song
Also love Pug, and am happy Ava Adore beat Disarm (though I've come to like that one more and more in the passing years)
― bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 6 April 2018 06:05 (six years ago) link
Got to admit I've always really disliked Ava Adore, a large part of that is down to the opening lines (really not helped by the goofy "Behold this tableau of grotesquery!" gesturing BC does in the video as he delivers them) but also I think the melody is kind of weak. I like Pug though, that was one that stood out on my last run through the album.
I of the Mourning and Age of Innocence are two of my favourites off Machina although I only voted for the latter in the end, I guess it is kind of an odd closer but I like the shifts between the different sections, it's like the whole album in miniature.
Crush was one of only two tracks from Gish on my ballot, I'm wondering how much of it will place - think the results have been nicely unpredictable so far!
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 6 April 2018 09:08 (six years ago) link
'Wound', 'Age of Innocence' and 'I of the Mourning' all too low - three of the big highlights of MACHINA right there. 'Ava Adore' is pretty much in the right place, I think. 'Pug' too high.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
I Of The Mourning is great, one of only two songs on Machina I have any desire to hear again. (The other one will probably be top 10).
― Matt DC, Friday, 6 April 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link
I was sure that "I of the Mourning" was the one that I always heard on the radio in Canada but, oddly, I can't find any evidence that it was even a major single release. I have no memory of hearing "Everlasting Gaze" or "Try, Try, Try" on radio.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link