Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

did he actually have a gun or no?

I was in some east Dallas suburbs years ago and there were some “no guns allowed in the establishment” signs on some restaurants, I think? it was also a dry county

i have never seen anyone open carry in west texas

did he actually have a gun or no?

I've seen exactly one person open-carrying, once, in a diner in Wisconsin, and he seemed like the sort of peckerwood dork I would make fun of ... if he didn't have a handgun strapped to his body.

I've never seen anyone who open carries here in Austin, but I have known various dudes with unreasonably large arsenals of firearms including a former misanthropic co-worker, head of computer dev, who kept a bunch of modded semi-automatics in the trunk of his Corvette Stingray.

I used to see people open-carrying sidearms at least once a month in North Idaho - without exception they were 20-40 year old skinny white dudes in polo shirts and khakis or cargo pants and looked like IT guys or college republican nerds and I felt were just trolling liberals and itching for people to confront them about it so they could argue about RONPAUL and THEIR FREEDOM. I'm pretty sure that all of them could have inspired the "I studied the blade" meme.

I guarantee that there were lots of concealed carry people around and my impression is that they disliked the open carry types for making them seem crazy despite their own perpetual fantasies about being crime victims and/or about being the good guy with the gun when something finally happened to allow their true heroism to be exposed.

Yes, here's an example of the perspective joygoat describes:

http://www.gunsandtactics.com/unintended-consequences-in-your-face-open-carry

lmao at this milquetoast pleading for civility when our rights are being threatened. change only comes as a consequence of direct action. i'm taking my business to caribou coffee, hardee's and green burrito and I encourage you all to do the same!!!

oops wrong board

Teachers in Erie County district get bats as a reminder to fight back in a shooting https://t.co/oKQgQbqBat

— Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (@PittsburghPG) April 10, 2018

sure

Be way better if it was these and they could just fling them in the shooters' faces.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F1dddfcdc-ba42-11e6-b28e-c605a5afd90f.jpg?crop=2179%2C1226%2C0%2C113&resize=685

One should never bring a fruit bat to a flying-fox fight iirc

Teachers in Erie County district get bats as a reminder to fight back in a shooting

Yes, it is important to remember that, when confronted by a heavily armed person using your immediate environs as a free-fire zone, that you should always run at the shooter, holding whatever object comes quickly to hand, whether it's a bat, a cell phone, or one of your shoes. The essential thing is to engage the shooter! That's the kind of quick-witted reaction that will put an end to a show of deadly force in a hurry.

they weren't even full-size bats

the school dsitrict's not made of money, you know

xxp You joke, but there are constantly active shooter workshops I've been exposed to that espouse "run, hide or fight" as your options

note the order of preference

if you must fight, they say do exactly what you just said - pick up random objects and throw them :(

^ certainly that's a much better tactic than frowning, finger-shaking and tut-tutting, but it's still is a last-ditch option when your assailant has such a massive advantage in weaponry, planning and surprise. Evasion will always be more reliable for your chance of personal survival, when there is any kind of escape route at all. If the choices are passively submit to die or else fight, the exact odds of winning the fight don't matter much.

actually you’re supposed to barricade and shelter in place before trying to escape

then run, then fight (if cornered)

yup the hide part
i want to tut-tut a man to death now that you mention it

meanwhile, back at parkland http://www.miamiherald.com/news/article208653029.html?via=newsletter&source=CSAMedition

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-waffle-house-shooter-20180423-story.html

jeepers it's hard to believe a guy like this slipped through the cracks of our already too-restrictive gun laws...

Some guy has been walking around my neighborhood with an AR-15 strapped to his back, apparently waiting for people to call the cops on him. When the police arrive he videotapes them and yells about his 2nd Amendment rights to open carry. The police sent out a statement that basically says he's not breaking any laws but is clearly an asshole.

that feeling when you're making the opposite point of the one you're trying to make

If there was a law it would be against it

dare I make the assumption that this is a white guy

Well he's still alive, isn't he?

I wonder whether he'd be willing to do it in blackface. Ask him.

A shooter has been reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School, the school district there said. The district is on lockdown.

Per two law enforcement sources, at least 8 confirmed fatalities. https://t.co/1JLOT8cPUm

— St. John Barned-Smith ⚔️ (@stjbs) May 18, 2018

Quotes from a local TV news site:

"I was sitting in my classroom and I heard really loud booms, but I really didn't know what they were at first," a student said. "Then, I realized what they were when I heard screaming."

"I never thought it would happen here," said Tyler Turner.

"It hurts my heart to see this happening," another student said. "I don't feel safe in this town anymore ... There was nothing we could do but run."

Saw on FB that a friend's husband who works part-time at the school is safe. He was driving in at the time and was told to turn around.

<Invocation of Neanderthal's DN>

this is barely popping up on my Twitter feed, everyone's too busy dragging Jordan Peterson.

massacre debate rinse repeat

I think I know someone who occasionally works that Galveston ER ...

8 reported deaths....

8-10. Possible explosive devices both on and off campus (a home).

Countdown to suspect image with a MAGA hat...

Huh, reportedly two homes (connected to the shooter) cordoned off for suspected explosives. News crew apparently beat the police to one of them ...

Damn. A reader commenting on the news out of Santa Fe. https://t.co/xlPdjPfSql pic.twitter.com/0NozhHrJ5K

— Teddy Amenabar (@TeddyAmen) May 18, 2018

Reporter: "Was there a part of you that was like, 'this isn't real, this would not happen in my school?'"

Student: "No ... it's been happening everywhere, I always kind of felt like eventually it was going to happen here too." pic.twitter.com/3SyckfreIPhttps://t.co/VZ3ZPllJWD

— Talya Minsberg (@tminsberg) May 18, 2018

Wow

the broken bearing of someone who almost just got killed and is pondering her future of being smeared as a crisis actor

get your Thoughts and Prayers in while they are still fresh

toughening up American kids the hard way

At this rate a 9 year old is going to beat an active shooter to death with her bare fists.

covering all bases, shooter reportedly had a shotgun and a pistol along with an assault weapon.

hearing about explosives as well

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Man-carrying-American-flag-and-handgun-arrives-at-12925271.php#photo-15574523

Fuck this guy forever