Didn't vote for Cupid de Locke but it's lovely - it was definitely a favourite when I first got the album.
I can hear what Tim means about From the Choirgirl Hotel re: Pug, good shout.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/3GLrQXe.jpg48. By Starlight162 points, 9 votesFrom: Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link
part of the nature of mellon collie being so long: i bought the album when i was eight but i don't think i got around to this song until i was nine or ten
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link
it's one of the best though
“Cupid de Locke” is delightfully ridiculous. The first thing from my ballot to place, too!
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
lol i love the outro of pug, sounds like the song's malfunctioning
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
i love the kinda last blast of full on romanticism that "by starlight" represents on the album, such a lovely, warm song. the sudden appearance of the "does she really know who i really am" bridge is my favorite part
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
I love the repeating guitar line in By Starlight that slowly increases in intensity throughout the song
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/txNiliK.jpg47. Where Boys Fear to Tread170 points, 8 votesFrom: Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
I agree with most of what was said about Ava Adore, it's all style with very little substance, as if we were supposed to be impressed that SP were hip to goth and electronica so it didn't really matter if they forgot to write a decent melody or chorus.
But on other parts of Adore (the album) they totally nailed the goth rock/electronica hybrid which is why that album is so fascinating but also so frustrating.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link
I sort of wish the drums were a little more forceful or something?
the hi-hat in the second verse, though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link
^^^ re: "ava adore"
All the last three are way too high with the exception on 'By Starlight' which is roughly in the right place. In no way are these better than the MACHINA tracks that place lower. I guess I'm just fortunate that I'm able to spot a good song even if the production is a barrier to some.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
'Pug' has some neat ideas in the arrangement, but the vocal melody isn't all that strong.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link
Starting to think that every single thing on Mellon Collie is going to place but otoh there's no chance of enough people voting for We Only Come Out At Night.
By Starlight is one of his best ballads though.
― Matt DC, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link
It is, but the version they played at Glastonbury was fucking awful, if I recall.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/LArDV2t.jpg46. Eye172 points, 9 votesFrom: Lost Highway Soundtrack, 1997
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link
YEAH
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
this song sounds so cool
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link
it's really those thick daubs of bass throughout
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 13:51 (six years ago) link
most of the recent Machina tracks were higher than those MCIS tracks for most of the voting period, none of the recent MCIS tracks had many votes at all until the last day or so
I love the repeating guitar line in By Starlight that slowly builds in intensity, one of my favourites.
I don't care at all for Where Boys Fear to Tread though, just feels like an aimless riff to me.
Eye rules and I wish there were more harder-hitting songs like it on Adore, which mostly went for a murkier sound in its percussion & bass.
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/kfl7mJ1.jpg45. Blank Page180 points, 9 votesFrom: Adore, 1998
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
yesss beautiful song
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/user/beeok/playlist/4IrfPuY4059KGXCZoMftEl?si=3HXmKcGNSei8NLSHIU2ouw
Please keep updated.
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
Eye is great and probably too low. I thought it'd get a Lynch bump around here.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
there's an adore demo/outtake called "my mistake" which it sounds like they dissolved that song in water and "blank page" was the result
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link
also:
take a dayplant some treesmay they shade you from memay your children play beneath
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/8MZRYur.jpg44. Glynis184 points, 8 votesFrom: No Alternative, 1993
this is the only one I don't have a good image for unfortunately, couldn't find an easy way to replicate the font on the No Alternative cover...
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
yayyyyy!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
dang Glynis now that's a song, my #5
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link
i voted for "glynis," two spots above "blank page" oddly. everything i love about gish/sd era sp is kinda embodied by that song, especially the contrast between its two halves. i can't explain why but it feels related to "hummer," like an even more chilled-out paisley mirror of it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link
love those yelps at the end, there's an alt version on the deluxe Pisces that replaces the yelps with a bunch of "crayzeeee" vocals & it sucks so bad, but the original is total blissed out sadness, my Pumpkins
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
never heard Eye before! almost sounds more like a God Lives Underwater or Jesus Jones track or something.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
this is prob the fourth time this video has been posted between the voting thread and the results thread but this is a really stunning performance imo and billy actually sounds great for most of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohGwSHQ7Vdc
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
I totally forgot about Glynis. Great tune, it wouldn't have jelled on SD but it's an album worthy song for sure.
All of my least favorite Adore songs are placing thus far ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
OK this is embarrassing, that's the only version of Glynis I've ever heard, didn't realise it was an alternative take!
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/DSUynbC.jpg43. Behold! The Night Mare188 points, 8 votesFrom: Adore, 1998
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link
this is my favourite from Adore, I had it very high. it has a lovely shimmery sound in the guitars and drums, the Adore production at its best. the acoustic bridge followed by that beautiful guitar noise then the ascending second part of the bridge, then the way it ends with a second verse, it sounds like it could drift on forever.
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
re. Glynis, it's more just another mix, but a much worse mix I think, not least because it forefronts Corgan's vocals at the end. in the original mix you get the "one love" parts but not much of the rest of Corgan's ad libs, and it's much much much better for it.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
"behold!" is so good, it just missed my ballot. somehow lives up to its ridiculous title without ever seeming like a ridiculous song
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/u5kYUYs.jpg42. To Sheila196 points, 10 votes, 1 #1 voteFrom: Adore, 1998
― ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
This is one of a few Adore tracks I love.
― jmm, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
the little middle eight break thing in Behold is one of the best things Billy ever wrote
― Simon H., Friday, 6 April 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
it was such a shock to hear this after mellon collie
i mean i know the end of mellon collie sets you up for it but still
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
whose #1? Good choice
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link
yeah for real
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link
"to sheila" was originally supposed to play behind the scene in cruel intentions soundtracked by counting crows "colorblind"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
I always thought "autobahn" was kinda incongruous to the corgan lyrical universe
― Simon H., Friday, 6 April 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
excellent trivia brad
― Simon H., Friday, 6 April 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
Ah yes!!! I voted for Glynis and Blank Page! By Starlight another near miss; Brad otm about it being creeper
― bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link