the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Salisbury is one of those places that's half red-faced Tories in tweeds and corduroy, half tattooed blokes looking for fights with (other) squaddies. The pub in question is called the Old Mill and caters for the latter set of clientele IIRC.

I was in Salisbury last weekend. The Prezzi was still completely shut and guarded by the police. On the up side there was free parking to encourage visitors.

I always wondered why anyone would revive a Cardiacs thread, but having a discreet thread for coded messages makes perfect sense now!

it's the last place anybody would look

Cardiacs convention obviously held each time in Salisbury and Tim Smith's 'rehab clinic is there. this shit goes deeper than any of you could know

'rehab clinic', even. the perfect cover

yeah that's not a great pub despite being by the river

I wouldn't touch the food: https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-attack-yulia-and-sergei-skripals-relative-refused-entry-to-britain-11319366

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This despite Vince Cable having that street named after him.

Vince "laying some" Cable put in an opportunist "I wouldn't prop up a Corbyn led government" pledge in the Jewish News this week.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/07/new-political-party-break-mould-westminster-uk-brexit?__twitter_impression=true

”They have the resources, but I’m not sure they have a viable plan,” said one person familiar with the project.

this advert for Centrist Party no 6478 was brought to you by some butthurt property tycoon who isn't seeing their "Labour values" being represented by the Party since extremist entryists took over the joint.

Ideas from "left" and right yeah sure

I am dying for some of the big dicks to have a crack at this tho, it can only be a gusher of pure high octane lulz

Mind you LoveFilm is a billion dollar business so maybe I shouldn't speak too soon

lol yeah, good to hear the visionary genius who came up with the amazing idea of posting rental DVDs to ppl is involved with this one.

Ooh, maybe Tristram Hunt will leave the V&A for this since he’s so wet for a UK Macron, it could only be him in the role.

Thank God someone’s finally funded a space for people who think the left should shut up and never criticise the right ever.

Bets that 20 property developers and Claire Kober are up for this?

xxxp Not the one who turned Netflix into a world-spanning behemoth - the other one.

i just think it's a shame that there are millionaires out there who don't have the control of the electoral system that their money entitles them to

It’s essentially a party by and for the kind of people who groan every time Corbyn talks about the NHS or disability cuts or mental health funding at pmqs. Those issues don’t matter to those people so they can’t possibly understand why they would matter to anyone else. Sure, they’ll occasionally pay a bit of lip service or link an article on austerity with a “this is awful” comment but the status quo works very well for them.

Look forward to them eating into what remains of the Lib Dems vote though.

Lol Suzy! Tristam Hunt was beyond self-parody in his Macron gushings on AQ last week. And just as Macron is talking about returning France's colonial plunder to Africa (and no doubt deporting loads of ppl back there with it as well) Tristam has very different ideas about the UK's plunder at the V+A.

look if we repatriate all our plundered art treasures all we'll have left is a couple of dug-out boats and half a hundred weight of denarii, is that what you want?

I haven't really thought much about that. I just like laying into Tristan Hunt and his Macron gushing. But the idea of going to Museums just full of British Art thoroughly depresses me, we'd never be able dump half of that rubbish anywhere.

London Tories in utter meltdown 👀 pic.twitter.com/q8M6AKZ0gr

— Kieran Dodds (@_kierandodds) April 7, 2018

that's a mess but it finishes with: there is one word to describe the party in London: Screwed.

the Jewdas seder beetroot on eBay is over £22k!
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Anticapitalist-beetroot-Jewdas-2018-seder-pickled/112919562341?hash=item1a4a87c865:g:0vUAAOSwjI5ax29k

(The horseradish as provided by Corbyn is cheaper at ~£113 lol)

While figures from across the political spectrum are said to be involved in Franks’s project, much of its policy platform appears to be aimed mainly at a liberal, centre-left audience. Potential policy proposals include asking the rich to pay a fairer share of tax, better funding for the NHS and improved social mobility. However, it also backs centre-right ideas on wealth creation and entrepreneurship, and is keen to explore tighter immigration controls. A source said some Brexit supporters are involved.

mould-breaking = the Lib Dems but with immigration mugs

Radical Suk dot com
https://radicalsuk.com/

At this point any respectable News outlet leading with a New Centrist Party story is either a complete fucking joke or someone has paid them well for the advert!

lol! I wonder if the Rawnsley opinion piece with a Macron photo will be a good click.

I keep hearing "complex" when Tories talk about the causes of crime/homelessness/poverty. I was talking to someone on the bus yesterday who was on their way to a church for food handouts. Not Fucking Complex! Complete fucking Tory party mandated poverty in this case.

Return of the Gammon. He's just popped on The Big Question, from (where else) York. Stuck his oar in a debate on modern slavery to say that people picking vegetables on farms are doing so willingly - and, guess what he's a farmer!

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he never knew the "some idiot in Iran" would turn out to be Boris.

I'm increasingly coming round to the idea that the country doesn't need a centrist party that breaks off from Labour, if there's a new party then it should be a new right-wing party without the baggage of the Tories and their membership.

I mean when people talk about a centre party they really mean what they want is a more palatable right wing party so just come right out and admit it. Pro-free market, globalist, socially liberal, perhaps not quite so gleeful about brutalising the poor and with an acknowledgement that a successful capitalist country requires decent public infrastructure - it would either fail or it would permanently hobble the Conservative Party or both and either would be fine.

Labour has over half a million members it's clearly responding to demand, as opposed to a party whose geriatric membership could fit in a modest football stadium quite comfortably.

apparently they can't count their membership numbers - it's very "complex" and not at all embarrassingly low for the governing party of the UK.

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The Tories without the baggage is just the Lib Dems, no? So surely people should be rallying around them and joining en masse if the demand exists? Given the policies and party infrastructure already exist?

As Matt says, the demand exists for Labour. This is just astroturfing to try to split the left vote.

it's almost as if there's a section of the Labour party that would rather destroy it than not have it be a more palatable right wing party

Just split the Tories into two new parties - Moggnitude and Soubriety.

This is quite well done https://centrismdotbiz.squarespace.com/

delightfully trenchant!

My guess is that the LibDem brand is just comprehensively trashed at this point, otherwise they are ripe for infiltration and takeover but no one seems arsed, which is as good an indication as any of why a centre party would fail.

They have quite considerable baggage of their own to lug about.

I found it odd that Cable was practically not ruling out another ConDem coalition the other day, after the last one completely wiped out any pretence that they are an alternative to Tories and shitloads of their voters.

You can take the man out of the coalition but you can't take the coalition out of the man

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