Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

Yeah, not sure Billy's voice has ever sounded better than on To Sheila

Luna really is one of the best lyrics BC ever wrote. Really touching and a perfect delivery. Five years later and he was all about twisted mysticism like "twilight fades through blistered Avalon". What?

(both songs made my ballot ... obviously I love them for totally different reasons)

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40. Bury Me
214 points, 10 votes
From: Gish, 1991

last one for now

damn that's low, one of their very best codas

it is, that loping outro riff is like the precursor to the end of Hummer

'Luna' too low, I've heard that song hundreds of times by now and it still moves me in the same way it did the first time. A beautiful song - whenever Corgan is coming across as a jackass for the zillionth time, it's tracks like 'Luna' that help me separate the art from the artists.

*artist.

otm. it's the perfect closer to that album. emotionally similar to porcelina. that bent A note that runs thru the song is so perfect, the music captures the feeling of falling in love and the naivete and innocence that comes with it.

I think the outro on 'Bury Me' is used differently to the one on 'Hummer' ... 'Hummer's outro is a very distinct change in mood, almost like a different song entirely even if the transition is smooth, whereas 'Bury Me' doesn't feel like that.

*lol C# sorry

gonna get in trouble in here discussing notes and CHORDS xp

xp yeah totally, bury me doesn't have that dynamic shift, the circular/swirling riffs always reminded me of each other though, where hummer is the more mature/developed take

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I completely agree. I found putting a ballot together for this far too impossible, but 'Luna' would have been a no-brainer to include.

we should do a poll of songs written about Courtney Love. can't think of a single one that comes close to Luna

good luck with your westworld cover of heart shaped box thread

Bury Me and I Am One were the next *legit* Pumpkins songs to show up in sets after Rhinoceros. I was never a fan of the former but I've been coming around, just as I've really gotten sick of the latter

Siva too. that was the song that bridged the gap between the Cure cosplay of the late 80s material and what Gish would become.

trouble with doing a "songs about Courtney Love" poll would be figuring out which ones were legit

Siva seems more structurally ambitious though, all those rollercoaster dips into and out of quietness xp to flappy

there's at least a dozen songs about courtney by billy

luna
silverfuck
fuck you
love
bodies
where boys fear to tread
x.y.u.
i of the mourning (second verse)
soothe
hello kitty kat
blank
rotten apples

xp - right, that's what i meant- according to BC it was the song that opened the floodgates for what the Pumpkins could be

fuck you
love

must be real fun to be romantically involved with billy corgan

where boys fear to tread is about trent reznor and how billy was jealous of him dating courtney in '95 lol

"Love is suicide" still perplexes me. Such a loaded phrase only a year after Cobain's death.

courtney love also responsible for this l👀k

https://i.imgur.com/O5MSP8e.png

courtney love too learn truth behind billy's lyrics

1994

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1997

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/02/68/b902684cb8f40e4b24a189f729b20a1a.jpg

Lol I've spent almost the entire morning listening to 1989 shows trying to pinpoint the exact nature of the break from the goth-pop mode that Rhinoceros represents

With Bury Me and I Am One, it's easier because of the Jane's Addiction influence; I used to think Bury Me came first because imo it bites Nothing's Shocking harder*, but Bury Me is a lot more sophisticated than I am One (which meh tbh East>>>> ) but Bury Me defines itself not in the cycling riff but in the breaks, most notably how the chords that lead tino 'that outro' basically reprise the "bury me in love" melody

I think I grew to like BM mostly just from trying to figure out how Billy made that outro work

courtney love conversation is mainly reminding me of how good all of the songs he’s written with her are

Speaking of Courtney Love, I saw the Pumpkins play in Biloxi, MS the day they found Kurt's body. He didn't mention it. Their openers Red Red Meat did. It always seemed weird to me. At the time I didn't know he and Courtney had ever had a thing. It was still weird that he didn't bring it up. It seemed like an important thing that was obviously on everyone's mind.

The show was incredible. "Starla" tore the roof off the place.

Wow you were there? I've listened to tapes of that show just to see if he said anything about Kurt. I still maintain that "Malibu" was the best song about Kurt written in the wake of the suicide. Pretty crazy that it was co-written (written?) by Billy Corgan, the guy whose rumored meeting with Courtney in London led to Kurt's Rome suicide attempt. Or do I have that wrong?...

Man, "Glynis" only made 20% of ballots at all?

What's the weighting again for the song poll (i.e. #1 = 50 points, #2 = 48 points, #25 = 2 points)?

Speaking of Courtney Love, I saw the Pumpkins play in Biloxi, MS the day they found Kurt's body. He didn't mention it. Their openers Red Red Meat did. It always seemed weird to me. At the time I didn't know he and Courtney had ever had a thing. It was still weird that he didn't bring it up. It seemed like an important thing that was obviously on everyone's mind.

The show was incredible. "Starla" tore the roof off the place.

he wrote about that day & how he heard the news in his “confessions of billy corgan” livejournal circa 2005. here it is:

As is often the case after a show, we board the bus and hit the road, watching movies and eating bad food to pass the time…this drive is about 5+ hours, so the sun is just about to come up when the bus hisses to a stop…the damp breeze of the ocean rolls up onto me in my half-sleep, and I can spy the water just over the road, so I make a small mental note to come back around during the day and check out the beach…turning, I am a bit stunned to see that we are staying in some sort of motel nightmare, splashed down here on a whim in the 60’s as a heady mix of Jetson’s futurism mixed with hurricane reality…I ask no one in particular, “what the fuck is this place?”, but no one listens cause they have heard it all before and all they really want is a closed door with a bed behind it…my room stinks of mildew and is just big enough for that same sought after bed, but out goes the light, and I am fast asleep…

The phone rings way too early, jarring me out of a sweet, humid sleep…the window is open and the sun pours in as the ocean air sweeps through the room…it looks like a beautiful day…”Did you hear the news? He’s gone and killed himself”…my first twilight thought is that it can’t be true, because even I have been reported dead two separate times in the last year (driving down the road, my father had recently heard a report that I was dead, so it must be a rumor or a bad joke)…the t.v. in the room is one of those standard pieces of shit where you need a remote to turn it on, cause they hardwire the front controls off so you can’t jack the channels around to get the movies for free…I flip on CNN with the sound off, figuring if there’s any truth to it that they would have it…there is nothing on at this moment except a general news report, so it must just be a mistake…then I start to think that maybe they won’t care at all and that this might not be the source for information…about 20 seconds in they flash his picture…the talking head is talking away, and my stomach drops about 1,000 feet…I mumble to whoever is on the line for a minute or so, but I don’t remember what I said…they remind me that they are very glad I am still here…I put down the phone, and all is really quiet now…his picture is still up on the screen, frozen…it is one of those rare moments in life where the entire world seems to be stopped, waiting for the next breath…my mind races around to “where is she? I hope she is alright”…I sit on the edge of the bed and just stare at the screen…I cannot believe my eyes, it is just all so sad…I don’t pray, but I do now…I pull myself down to the floor, my back pressed up against the bed, the t.v. screen just a foot away from my eyes…I say a prayer for his soul, thanking him for all the good he has done…I pray a lot for his child, who is now without a father…and I start to cry and I don’t stop until there are no more tears to cry…

Admission: I totally forgot about "Glynis"

Oh wow! thanks for the recording and all the context for that Biloxi show. I am listening to it now.

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39. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
218 points, 11 votes
From: No Alternative, 1995

uh that's

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39. Love
218 points, 11 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

Voted for this one. Love the drum hook and the flanger.

Awesome!

Nice detail to match the typography with the original ones used in the albums. The Adore font is my favorite and the one I think I’d have chosen if making a standard banner for the poll... what’s the name of it?

I don't think I voted for "Love," but it's definitely a favorite.

(I KNOW I voted for "Beautiful" - hoping that places close to the end of this rollout.)

yeah you have the ballot weightings correct there Soundslike.

The Adore font is Novella. I'm glad people like the images.

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38. Bodies
226 points, 8 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

My #5

least fave MCIS track tbh

didn't make my ballot but it's great

It's one of the heavy tracks I like the most on MCIS. a little repetitive but I love Billy's "NO BODIES EVER KNEW" scream

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37. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
228 points, 9 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

Does the first verse feature little volume fluctuations?-I've always heard that and wondered if it was real or my imagination.

It's so weird that because I got into SP just after Siamese Dream, that I still regard MCIS with a little suspicion as "new" Pumpkins. The photo at the top of the thread presses that button a little.