For Martha was the only song that made sense to me when I first heard Adore. really incredible song and one of their most moving. the way the guitar solo explodes into existence!
that's the last one for now
― ufo, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
Muzzle way too low! my fav track on MatIS
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
Way behind but: the "Zero" riff is incredible! It's such a simple idea but just by sliding his finger down that stretch of the low sixth string with a load of distortion, he basically plays a catchy descending Eb major arpeggio in just intonation on the 6th, 5th, and 4th harmonics. It made my top 10 mostly for that + the noise solo.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing that "Crestfallen" is somewhere up ahead. Right?
RIGHT?!?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, April 7, 2018 10:12 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i voted for it real high but i'm guessing: no
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
recap so far:
21 For Martha 380 15 122 Muzzle 358 14 023 Tonight, Tonight 348 14 024 Silverfuck 338 13 025 Whir 336 11 126 Zero 328 13 027 Frail and Bedazzled 322 11 128 Siva 314 13 129 Snail 310 11 030 Hello Kitty Kat 294 14 131 Shame 274 10 032 To Forgive 266 9 033 Appels + Oranjes 250 9 035 I Am One 234 9 035 Beautiful 234 9 136 Quiet 232 9 037 Bullet With Butterfly Wings 228 9 038 Bodies 226 8 039 Love 216 11 040 Bury Me 214 10 041 Luna 208 10 042 To Sheila 196 10 143 Behold! The Night Mare 188 8 044 Glynis 184 8 045 Blank Page 180 9 046 Eye 172 9 047 Where Boys Fear To Tread 170 7 048 By Starlight 162 9 049 Cupid de Locke 156 9 052 Age of Innocence 154 5 052 Crush 154 6 152 I of the Mourning 154 5 153 Pug 150 6 056 Spaceboy 142 6 056 Ava Adore 142 6 056 Wound 142 7 058 Tear 134 4 058 Real Love 134 7 059 Suffer 128 5 060 Disarm 124 6 061 X.Y.U. 122 5 162 Farewell and Goodnight 120 4 063 Glass and the Ghost Children 118 4 064 The Boy 116 4 065 Stumbleine 112 6 066 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 110 3 1
― ufo, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
For Martha is the kind of overblown epic that MCIS needed to end with. Unfortunately they didn't close Adore with it either.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
'for martha' would have been a great closer, it's true. i really love "blank page", though. the sound of beautiful exhaustion
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
pretty dope list so far tbh. aside from a few things i really can't stand, it's shaping up to be a killer "everything good about the band in one place" playlist. crazy to me that some really canonical songs only had like nine or eleven people voting for them. i could imagine we're about to hit a real jump point where everything showed up in at least half of the ballots. kinda thinking "drown" might take this as something i can't imagine anybody not putting somewhere in their 25. but there's a lot of heavy hitters that haven't shown up yet. only thirteen songs from my ballot have placed so far and of the ones that haven't i feel like the only one i can safely rule out at this point is "This Time."
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
I didn't get a chance to vote, but jesus this is a trip down memory lane. I didn't go much beyond Mellon Collie at the time, but this has brought back many stoned nights in my parent's garage. I'd have had Mayonnaise at #1 fwiw. Or maybe Snail.
Is it too obvious to mention how much Mogwai wanted to sound like Slint but actually nicked a huge chunk of their sound from Silverfuck?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
I don't know. I think This Time still has a good shot. "As the curtain falls we bid you all goodnight" packed a punch.
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
About nine songs from my ballot have made it so far; maayyyybe five more songs will join them in the final stretch.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
Yeah Mogwai were basically an instrumental SD cover band early on. Then they got a lot worse as they tried to be Tortoise and got the Godspeed You Black Emperor disease.
― Soundslike, Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link
Fuck, every song that's placed in the Top 30 so far is a masterpiece.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
For Martha too loooow
― Simon H., Saturday, 7 April 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
"Quiet" = great opening and riff, but the song goes nowhere and Billy's vocal leaves something to be desired. I usually listen to 15 seconds and then hit skip.
― Sam Weller, Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
Ah “to forgive” made it! Had no idea it was that well liked and I was losing hope. First song I learned on guitar.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
"Whir" was my #1 <3
― had (crüt), Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I used to love that one. Probably deserved a spot on my ballot.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
I think my #1 wont make it. Hope at least “set the ray to jerry” does.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
Wish I could've voted for this. Alas.
― FourLegsGood, Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
cf "Silverfuck"
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Hello Kitty Kat is my favorite heavy Pumpkins song to play on guitar... the shift from the F# vamp in the verses to the G# - E chorus is so brutal.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
pretty dope list so far tbh. aside from a few things i really can't stand, it's shaping up to be a killer "everything good about the band in one place" playlist. crazy to me that some really canonical songs only had like nine or eleven people voting for them. i could imagine we're about to hit a real jump point where everything showed up in at least half of the ballots. kinda thinking "drown" might take this as something i can't imagine anybody not putting /somewhere/ in their 25. but there's a lot of heavy hitters that haven't shown up yet. only thirteen songs from my ballot have placed so far and of the ones that haven't i feel like the only one i can safely rule out at this point is "This Time."
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link
"Hummer" and "Soma" maybe (I hope)?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing 33 takes it in a walk.
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
Oh yeah Hummer and Soma are locks for top 10, maybe top 5. Thirty-three probably in the teens? Idk. Was in the teens on my ballot
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
Feel like we could hit Hummer very soon tbh. Never knew anybody rated it so high until these threads - as far as SD consensus classics go i would expect Rocket, Mayonaise, Today and Cherub Rock to all outperform that one.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
i went 5/10 so far today and that upped my total.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
was having a very bad average.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
“Stand inside your love” will also make it if only for being the token pick for people wanting at least one song per album in there.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
"Drown" is only for heart-core SP fans? I'd hope not...
― Soundslike, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
The version of Drown on the greatest hits is only 4 mins long. Ridiculous
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
Rocket has gotta place high. In a way I think that’s their mission statement more than anything else. It was the first song they played at the “final show” on 12/2/2000.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
I've never been much of a Pumpkins fan outside of SD, a handful of MCIS and Pisces selections, and Drown (this is reflected in my fairly pedestrian ballot). But hearing the songs you guys have chosen outside of album context via the playlist has given me a new way in for a lot of this stuff.
― how's life, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link
🤗🤗🤗
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
wait a sec- besides “The Boy” - have any songs from The Aeroplane Flies High placed yer? Realizing “Meladori Magpie” and “Rotten Apples” probably aren’t going to place 😢
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
Jerry will place surely.
― Tim F, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
I don't think so, flappy.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
If "Pistachio Medley" were gonna place, it'd have placed by now, probably.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
In re-listening to things for this poll, I got about 3 minutes into "Pistachio Medley."
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
Yeah. And yeah I’m guessing Set the Ray will be pretty high. Another good song I never understood the love for
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
xp: you guys are nuts
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
― Fetchboy, Saturday, April 7, 2018 5:32 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can't disagree there.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link
Sorry, that was a horribly formed "joke"
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link
No, really, we're nuts! :)
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
lmao
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
In addition to what flappy was saying about it, "Medley" also serves as the first formal peek behind the curtain that let us see just how insane the editing process to create MCIS must have been AND how massively prolific Corgan was at that moment in time.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link