Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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"Quiet" = great opening and riff, but the song goes nowhere and Billy's vocal leaves something to be desired. I usually listen to 15 seconds and then hit skip.


it’s a strange song, iirc Billy said he didn’t particularly like it, but it was more poppy & concise than Hello Kitty Kat, which was going to be the 2nd song on SD until very late in production. Not sure where Quiet would’ve gone, because it only works where it is. In the Pisces liner notes, Billy said “the ghosts of Gish said no no” re: Hello Kitty Kat

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I used to love that one. Probably deserved a spot on my ballot.

cf "Silverfuck"

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

Hello Kitty Kat is my favorite heavy Pumpkins song to play on guitar... the shift from the F# vamp in the verses to the G# - E chorus is so brutal.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

pretty dope list so far tbh. aside from a few things i really can't stand, it's shaping up to be a killer "everything good about the band in one place" playlist. crazy to me that some really canonical songs only had like nine or eleven people voting for them. i could imagine we're about to hit a real jump point where everything showed up in at least half of the ballots. kinda thinking "drown" might take this as something i can't imagine anybody not putting /somewhere/ in their 25. but there's a lot of heavy hitters that haven't shown up yet. only thirteen songs from my ballot have placed so far and of the ones that haven't i feel like the only one i can safely rule out at this point is "This Time."


Drown has the disadvantage of being a non album single that never appeared on a comp. I have no idea what the top 5 will look like other than 1979 and Mayo. Ruby and Porcelina must be in the top 10. Cherub Rock will place high.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

"Hummer" and "Soma" maybe (I hope)?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

I'm guessing 33 takes it in a walk.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah Hummer and Soma are locks for top 10, maybe top 5. Thirty-three probably in the teens? Idk. Was in the teens on my ballot

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

Feel like we could hit Hummer very soon tbh. Never knew anybody rated it so high until these threads - as far as SD consensus classics go i would expect Rocket, Mayonaise, Today and Cherub Rock to all outperform that one.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

i went 5/10 so far today and that upped my total.

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

was having a very bad average.

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

“Stand inside your love” will also make it if only for being the token pick for people wanting at least one song per album in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

"Drown" is only for heart-core SP fans? I'd hope not...

Soundslike, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

The version of Drown on the greatest hits is only 4 mins long. Ridiculous

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

"Drown" is only for heart-core SP fans? I'd hope not...


nah it just has the disadvantage of being on a various artists comp / is more beloved I believe by people that were around when it came out. But it is on the greatest hits.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

Rocket has gotta place high. In a way I think that’s their mission statement more than anything else. It was the first song they played at the “final show” on 12/2/2000.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link

I've never been much of a Pumpkins fan outside of SD, a handful of MCIS and Pisces selections, and Drown (this is reflected in my fairly pedestrian ballot). But hearing the songs you guys have chosen outside of album context via the playlist has given me a new way in for a lot of this stuff.

how's life, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

🤗🤗🤗

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

wait a sec- besides “The Boy” - have any songs from The Aeroplane Flies High placed yer? Realizing “Meladori Magpie” and “Rotten Apples” probably aren’t going to place 😢

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

Jerry will place surely.

Tim F, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

I don't think so, flappy.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

If "Pistachio Medley" were gonna place, it'd have placed by now, probably.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

In re-listening to things for this poll, I got about 3 minutes into "Pistachio Medley."

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah. And yeah I’m guessing Set the Ray will be pretty high. Another good song I never understood the love for

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

xp: you guys are nuts

Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

In re-listening to things for this poll, I got about 3 minutes into "Pistachio Medley."


ahh! the Pastichio Medley is one of my favorite things they ever did. I love every riff, but more than that I love it as a tape collage piece. Like, you think they cover so much ground on MCIS, and then on the B side record there’s their own Revolution 9. Brilliant piece of work. I’d love to know how Billy put it together, it has the coherence of a structured tape piece, doesn’t sound like he was just punching in riffs at random.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

xp: you guys are nuts

― Fetchboy, Saturday, April 7, 2018 5:32 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't disagree there.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

Sorry, that was a horribly formed "joke"

Fetchboy, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

No, really, we're nuts! :)

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

lmao

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

In addition to what flappy was saying about it, "Medley" also serves as the first formal peek behind the curtain that let us see just how insane the editing process to create MCIS must have been AND how massively prolific Corgan was at that moment in time.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

(I'm sure hardcore fans already knew how prolific the band was, of course, by 1995.)

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

Yeah. Almost none of those songs even became B sides (iirc the only one is The Aeroplane Flies High & that very early version of X.Y.U. called Rachel). Even their C sides were awesome. I find myself playing So Very Sad About Us, Rigamarole, Camaro, Spazzmatazz (my old namesake!), A Dog’s Prayer, Lucky Lad, and Flipper a lot when I have access to a half stack.

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

Oh wait I remember spazzmatazz!

bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 7 April 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

Anyways, I voted for Hello Kitty Kat, Siva, Muzzle, and Frail and Bedazzled--my #1

Also really love Snail, Whir, and Zero (which is too low, one instance when the SPIN list was right)

bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 7 April 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

Going to be really weird if "Everlasting Gaze" is in the top 20, beating out so many better classics. "Stand Inside Your Love" I can see as it's the best MACHINA track.

FourLegsGood, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

I think Medley will place

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link

If "Medley" placed butnot "Marquis" or "God" or "Pennies" or especially "Mouths of Babes" that would be kinda strange. I like all of those songs better than anything on MCIS...

Soundslike, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

To no-one's surprise, we've got nothing in this songs rollout post-Machina II.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link

I think Medley will place


really?? this late?

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

I should’ve voted for it

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

I think I had "Whir" at #7 but listening again today it should've been higher.

Soundslike, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link

Whir is like a breath of spring air

had (crüt), Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link

Ha, I always associate it with winter!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link

(Probably because that's when I got it.)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link

Guesses for the Top 20:

Perfect, 1979, Set the Ray to Jerry, Mayonnaise, Soma, Today, Thirty-three, Soma, Cherub Rock, Stand Inside Your Love, Daydream, Rhinoceros, Landslide (if it counts), Hummer, Jellybelly, Fuck You (An Ode to No One, Drown, Rocket, Here Is No Why, Thru the Eyes of Ruby

FourLegsGood, Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

That pretty much accounts for the hitherto unplaced songs on my ballot!

startled macropod (MatthewK), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link

swap out Landslide for Porcelina

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

There's also Geek USA, Starla, and Everlasting Gaze. I'd probably swap out Fuck You and Here Is No Why.

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I'll be a little sad if "Geek USA" doesn't place.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

Maybe Everlasting Gaze didn't place. It's hard to imagine it beating Bullet with Butterfly Wings and Zero.

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link


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