Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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"drown" is the perfect gish/sd transitional track i think, even more than "starla" which feels like its own thing. you can hear where they are and where they're going simultaneously

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

Through its ascending repetition, it's almost like a Reich or Glass piece, except as an ode to the elevating potential of Rock. It's in many ways the opposite of most things I look for in music, especially in guitar-and-bass-and-drums-based music. Which only makes me trust my love of it more--and it's been almost the only SP song I've felt the need to put on periodically over the last 20 years since I otherwise walked away. It still gives me the same feeling of soaring, yearning possibility as when I was 14 and Smashing Pumpkins meant the world to me. For me, "Starla" is Smashing Pumpkins.

Controp: "Starla" always bums me out a little because it seems like it's going for what I DO often look for in music but it always seems like there's something missing from that huge solo and climax; it's just a little too basic and lands slightly off the mark. I'll try one more time.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

smoke some w33d beforehand imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

Huh, that might be what's missing.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

oh wait sorry i did not mean to be extremely dismissive about "cherub rock" itt bc you know how on the last repetition of the chorus there's that, like, really bright chord droning through the whole thing? that's the best thing in the sp catalog

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

last minute or so of "cherub" is really a guitar symphony

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

idk I love "starla" but I don't partoke xxp

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

lol sorry to bring up weed i'm just a big stoner these days

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

(bc of anxiety and i gave up drinking)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

but "starla" *is* really great... on weed

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

So I guess "Today" and "Rocket" are 1 and 2? Interesting.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

It's awesome that so many people are apparently discovering "Drown" for the firdt time--because that suggests almost everyone who *did* know it had it very high in their lists. Wonder if it has the highest median/mean/average position?

Soundslike, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

"drown" was actually in the lower reaches of my list but that's no knock against it considering at least half of the ballot was vying for no. 1 simultaneously

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/Chnyt9Au7DZW8/giphy.gif

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

Okay, Googled and revisited "Drown." Coming back to me now.

Here's the problem, probably: I didn't encounter drown until 2002 or 2003, when I copped the Pumpkins' best-of. Never heard the Singles soundtrack; no one hipped me to this song. It was never something I experienced in the bloom of my Pumpkins fandom (which, to be honest, has been done for a while) and so it came across as just another really nice, Pumpkins Prime jam - like encountering Nirvana's "You Know You're Right" whenever that emerged.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

tfw you're "1979" and maybe you won the ilm smashing pumpkins poll xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/nhR8Ytf.jpg
2. 1979
1152 points, 31 votes, 3 #1 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

https://i.imgur.com/N1rWpjg.jpg
1. Mayonaise
1258 points, 33 votes, 3 #1 votes
From: Siamese Dream, 1993

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

!

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

Oh, I forgot that "1979" hasn't come up yet. That's a lock. And I somehow missed that "Today" and "Rocket" both placed already. Huh, I wonder what #2 would be. xps!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

ayyyy just as it should be

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

YESSSSSSSS

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

33 votes

:D

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

Mayonaise was a long way ahead the entire time, 1979 only managed to catch up as much as this at the very end of voting. both perfect songs

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

"1979" is perfect but it's too much of an outlier to feel right as #1 to me

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

When I first heard SD, "Mayonaise" might have been the one that blew me away the most, that encapsulated everything that was great about the album in one hooky package. It only ended up at #13 on my ballot but it's a fitting winner.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link

I voted for neither of the top two, but they're nice enough songs. Well done, ILM!

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

Love the clean pinch harmonics in the intro solo, the feedback squeals, the unforgettable riff.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

oh shout out to the "YEAH IIIIIIIII WANT SOMETHING NEW" part of "hummer" btw

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

Ha, yet again, I didn't know that's what he was singing there, in my #1 song.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

hope everyone enjoyed the poll, there was a lot of great discussion from all, thanks for participating!

here are the full results:

1 Mayonaise 1258 33 3
2 1979 1152 31 3
3 Drown 920 26 3
4 Hummer 888 24 5
5 Soma 844 24 4
6 Cherub Rock 830 25 1
7 Thirty-Three 720 27 1
8 Rhinoceros 602 23 0
9 Starla 564 18 1
10 Thru The Eyes of Ruby 558 17 2
11 Set the Ray to Jerry 520 18 0
13 Rocket 518 19 2
13 Galapogos 518 18 0
14 Today 502 18 0
15 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 460 19 0
16 Here Is No Why 432 15 1
18 Stand Inside Your Love 430 16 1
18 Geek U.S.A. 430 17 0
19 Obscured 426 15 0
20 Perfect 402 17 0
21 For Martha 380 15 1
22 Muzzle 358 14 0
23 Tonight, Tonight 348 14 0
24 Silverfuck 338 13 0
25 Whir 336 11 1
26 Zero 328 13 0
27 Frail and Bedazzled 322 11 1
28 Siva 314 13 1
29 Snail 310 11 0
30 Hello Kitty Kat 294 14 1
31 Shame 274 10 0
32 To Forgive 266 9 0
33 Appels + Oranjes 250 9 0
35 I Am One 234 9 0
35 Beautiful 234 9 1
36 Quiet 232 9 0
37 Bullet With Butterfly Wings 228 9 0
38 Bodies 226 8 0
39 Love 216 11 0
40 Bury Me 214 10 0
41 Luna 208 10 0
42 To Sheila 196 10 1
43 Behold! The Night Mare 188 8 0
44 Glynis 184 8 0
45 Blank Page 180 9 0
46 Eye 172 9 0
47 Where Boys Fear To Tread 170 7 0
48 By Starlight 162 9 0
49 Cupid de Locke 156 9 0
52 Age of Innocence 154 5 0
52 Crush 154 6 1
52 I of the Mourning 154 5 1
53 Pug 150 6 0
56 Spaceboy 142 6 0
56 Ava Adore 142 6 0
56 Wound 142 7 0
58 Tear 134 4 0
58 Real Love 134 7 0
59 Suffer 128 5 0
60 Disarm 124 6 0
61 X.Y.U. 122 5 1
62 Farewell and Goodnight 120 4 0
63 Glass and the Ghost Children 118 4 0
64 The Boy 116 4 0
65 Stumbleine 112 6 0
66 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 110 3 1
67 Blew Away 102 5 0
68 Once Upon A Time 100 4 0
69 Pennies 98 3 1
70 We Only Come Out At Night 96 4 0
71 Jellybelly 96 5 0
72 Tristessa 92 4 0
73 This Time 90 4 0
74 Annie-Dog 82 3 0
75 Soothe 78 3 0
76 Pissant 74 4 0
77 Daphne Descends 74 3 0
78 Crestfallen 72 3 0
79 Plume 72 3 0
80 Home 62 3 0
81 Mouths of Babes 62 3 0
82 The Imploding Voice 60 3 0
83 Let Me Give the World To You 58 5 0
84 Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 58 3 0
85 In the Arms of Sleep 58 2 0
86 Daydream 52 5 0
87 The Sacred and Profane 52 2 0
88 Try, Try, Try 52 3 0
89 Here's to the Atom Bomb 50 1 1
90 Sweet Sweet 50 3 0
91 Medellia of the Gray Skies 48 5 0
92 The End is the Beginning Is The End 48 1 0
93 Cash Car Star 46 1 0
94 Rotten Apples 46 2 0
95 Meladori Magpie 42 1 0
96 La Dolly Vita 40 2 0
97 Jupiter's Lament 38 1 0
98 Raindrops + Sunshowers 36 1 0
99 Dreaming 36 1 0
100 Landslide 34 4 0
101 With Every Light 34 1 0
102 Cherry 32 3 0
103 White Spyder 30 1 0
104 Tales Of A Scorched Earth 30 2 0
105 Ugly 30 3 0
106 Blue 28 1 0
107 Take Me Down 28 1 0
108 Lily (my One And Only) 24 1 0
109 Believe 24 1 0
110 Once in a While 22 1 0
111 The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning 20 1 0
112 Clones (We're All) 20 1 0
113 Tarantula 16 1 0
114 Pulseczar 16 1 0
115 Vanity 12 1 0
116 Window Paine 10 1 0
117 If There is a God 10 1 0
118 Pastichio Medley 8 2 0
119 ...said sadly 8 1 0
120 The Everlasting Gaze 8 1 0
121 Slunk 8 1 0
122 Dross 6 1 0
123 Satur9 6 1 0
124 Go 6 1 0
125 Marquis in Spades 6 2 0
126 Purr Snickety 2 1 0
127 The Chimera 2 1 0
128 Apathy’s Last Kiss 2 1 0
129 Bugg Superstar 2 1 0

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

neither did i until i looked it up now tbh xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

Proud of you, 1979!

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/geeky_collector/14005782/1464402/1464402_original.jpg

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

my favorite part in Hummer brad xp

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

129 Bugg Superstar 2 1 0

oh fucking hell yeah

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

thank u ufo for doing this it has been the highlight of a real terrible month

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

I almost forgot to vote for Mayonaise! A worthy winner for sure.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

89 Here's to the Atom Bomb 50 1 1

There's my #1.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

thank you ufo!!!!!!!!!

everyone post your ballots!!!

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

thank u ufo for doing this it has been the highlight of a real terrible month

^^^

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

my ballot, bolded didn't place:

I of the Mourning
Thirty-Three
Perfect
Wound
Rhinoceros
Set the Ray to Jerry
Hummer
Here is No Why
With Every Light
For Martha
Age of Innocence
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Shame
Whir
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Mayonaise
Starla
Crestfallen
Glynis
Stumbleine
Blank Page
Mouths of Babes
Drown
Appels + Oranjes
Eye

all of three songs lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

1979
Mayonaise
Hummer
Drown
Tonight, Tonight
Behold! The Night Mare
Soma
Galapogos
Thirty-Three
Beautiful
Thru The Eyes of Ruby
Cherub Rock
Real Love
Blew Away
Today
Jellybelly
Perfect
For Martha
To Sheila
Luna
By Starlight
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Stand Inside Your Love
Rhinoceros
Disarm

biggest disappointment was seeing Blew Away end up at 67 lol

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

Seriously, Smashing Pumpkins got me through a really hard middle of March.

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

"jellybelly" didn't place :O

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

i mean it placed at 71 but still

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

Only one vote for Everlasting Gaze.

jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

My ballot; bolded didn't place:

Hummer
Cherub Rock
Soma
Hello Kitty Kat
Bodies
Quiet
Zero
Rocket
Today
1979
I of the Mourning
Geek USA
Mayonaise
Frail and Bedazzled
Rhinoceros
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Tonight Tonight
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Thirty-Three
Stand Inside Your Love
Real Love
Love
Pissant
La Dolly Vita

Shame

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

Thanks ufo, this has been a really great poll, so much fun.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

I was surprised With Every Light didn't place, that's one of the real highlights on Machina, so pretty even though it's all buried in the mix. also regret not voting for Jupiter's Lament, the barbershop version is probably my favourite discovery from doing this poll.

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

i think the only song i don't like in the complete results is the "dreaming" cover

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

Drown
1979
Cherub Rock
Mayonaise
Glynis
Soma
Today
Appels + Oranjes
Siva
Ava Adore
Starla
Obscured
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Sweet Sweet
Let Me Give The World To You
Hello Kitty Kat
I Am One
Hummer
This Time
Rhinoceros
Zero
Perfect
Geek USA
Galapogos
Stand Inside Your Love

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link


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