help me with my class?

Also, in terms of doing something distinctive, self-expressive with Beatle-y sounds, the first two Big Star albums---Third/Sister Lovers has more of a Velvet Underground vibe---although they always seemed like they liked Left Banke too, and LB had their own bittersweet childe of JohnPaulGeorge thing going on, gliding on thee strings more often and reliably than actual Beatles did.

Ray Charles' "Eleanor Rigby," Wilson Pickett's "Hey Jude" (even way before Duane Allman cuts loose), 80i(Eno, Manzanera etc)'s live "Tomorrow Never Knows," Smokey Robinson's "Yesterday," Willie Nelson's too: both live and acappella (or just about). Maybe Beatallica, but I haven't heard it (reminds me that Cobain said his basic idea for Nirvana was Black Sabbath Beatles)

801, that is.

glad to help - oh i forgot one more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYnqVS0eDdA

as for ray charles more people need to hear his version of "the long and winding road", which is actually good

i spent many hours putting together tonight's presentation and it was worth it. my coverage of the 1960s was far from comprehensive but i did the best i could under the circumstances, as usual
highlights:

* going from "theme from a summer place" to "black sabbath"
* they liked "sittin' on the dock of the bay"
* youngest student (ardent 1D fan) heard more beatles songs than she had ever heard in her life and she liked them
* talking about beatlemania was fun
* i wore a period-appropriate dress & shoes
* the big one -- their favorite version of "all along the watchtower" truly shocked me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmrql7Zhg-c

* they also enjoyed learning about leonard cohen

It's that time!!

REQUEST: nonanglophone punk/new wave/synth pop from around the world in the late 70s/early 80s

REQUEST: essential must hear rap 1977-1984? is there a list of such a thing somewhere (on ilx or elsewhere)?

i have been trying not to feed them any company line about the "invention" (usually dubious) or "importance" (extremely subjective) or any particular type of music or subgenre. just trying to give them an idea of when and how influential sounds emerged.

Have you seen Hip Hop Evolution on Netflix? First episode is as good a primer on hip hop's beginnings as I've run across.

REQUEST: nonanglophone punk/new wave/synth pop from around the world in the late 70s/early 80s

Kleenex (who later changed their name to LiLiPUT) - an all-female Swiss punk band, very influential on some (obscure) 90s bands I love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8NYBUBnss

I also love early-80s Japanese new wave synth pop but don't know much about it - know this is amazing though-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGqvYVfpEU

i'm going to have to save hip hop evolution (the whole concept) for next week, will watch
thanks for those two -- helpful!
i just need a few examples of international iterations of the punk/new wave/synth pop concept -- any contributions welcome. i don't know much about this but i know it's out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7X6oYg6iro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2lvpLX8CCU

You can cover international synth pop/wave with this one, and mention Italo in passing :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSqdiyg4iAU

I know that Poland was especially replete with synth pop acts in that period but I don’t know any names

neither do i!
i am looking for more non-euro stuff if anyone has brilliant ideas

not non-euro, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTo79sPCVXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFHanoST-vI

English version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6raFS_dxns

(Polish so not non-Euro; also check out Dezerter for Polish punk. Timothy Ryback's "Punk in Poland" in Rocking the State, ed. Sabrina Ramet, is a good start.)

i forgot about yellow magic orchestra!

A good soul jazz comp on Brazilian post-punk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sexual_Life_of_the_Savages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPA4wEMGf4

Los Prisioneros, from Chile, worked in many different New Wave subgenres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8RhLiHh5nA

A good French comp on Cold Wave

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Transmission-81-89-The-French-Cold-Wave/release/430644

This one seems to foreshadow PJ Harvey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNEJX6GC20

From the German angle, I find the career of Gudrun Gut really fascinating, as she's followed the post-punk impetus through the decades, from industrial and goth to techno and modern DAW approaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OiNFPINKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CWkq1zXs10

excellent -- thank you!

one of the highlights from this week was letting my students browse some of my early 80s records. one of them asked me from across the room "what's this?" and held up new order's low-life <3 she liked the look of it
lots of highlights this week though for sure. i told them that rock music started to splinter like those brooms in fantasia
lol

low-life was a little after my cutoff date for this week but we were talking about joy division and she fell right into my teaching trap :)

question --

the billboard charts appear to introduce Latin music to their archives in 1985. then, in 1986, there appears to be a war between two artists recording the same song "toda la vida" (franco & emmanuel) and trading off #1 spots? does anyone know what was going on there?
https://www.billboard.com/archive/charts/1986/latin-songs

nm i found some articles about it in English and Spanish !! here is one in english https://www.lemonwire.com/2017/10/18/classics-latin-music-toda-la-vida-emmanuel-also-franco/

More important question for rap heads --
any recommended lists of classics from the mid-late 80s? I am looking for someone with more authority than me to tell my students what rap albums were essential during that period.

run-dmc raising hell

Er, haven't listened to any of these in quite a while, but sounded pretty damn good at the time and should still be at least of historical interest (several seemed vanguard back in the day):
Eric B & Rakim: Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
Afrika Bambaataa: Planet Rock---The Album, Looking for the Perfect Beat 1980-1985
Beastie Boys: Licensed to Ill
Boogie Down Productions:Criminal Minded (the only one I know of feat. innovative DJ Scott LaRock, though I always enjoyed the musicality of KRS-One's voice, despite/sometimes in tandem with some of his nutty words)
Think female rappers may have been more 90s? But some good albs in 80s:
Neneh Cherry, Raw Like Sushi
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: The Message
MC Lyte: Eyes On This
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Queen Latifa: All Hail The Queen(some were v. skeptical 'til I played it)
The Real Roxanne: s/t
Salt-N-Peppa: Hot, Cool and Vicious (def. on the pop side, but got the flava!)
Blanking on some of my compilation tapes, but these should be historical and fun:
Rap's Greatest Hits (Priorty label: breezy & gritty & goofin')
Rap's Greatest Hits Vol. 2 (Sugarhill!)
Mr. Magic's Rap Attack, Vol. 4 (radio radio!)

Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane is a must, plus some obvious ones like De La - 3 Feet High and Rising and NWA - Straight Outta Compton

I'm not enough of a head to attest to the value of these personally, but Ego Trip's lists are online: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/ego_trip_page2.htm

The Perfect Beats: New York Electro Hip Hop + Underground Dance Classics 1980-1985 (I've got four volumes, may be more)

Also, Steinski always had his own vision of hip-hop, from the early 80s at least, maybe the 70s, and some of the 80s stuff, remastered, is posted via this official site, his and early partner Double Dee's--join the mailing list and get a code for download of yr. choice: https://ddski.com/ (early stuff on youtube as well).Burning Out of Control, Steinski's panoramic mix album of Sugarhill tracks, some deep in the catalog, is very edutational.

*has* always had, I meant: he's still at it.

"edutational"? Screw it, it's very educational and entertaining.

RIP Jabo :(

working on my final exam study guide
i can't believe i get paid to do this!
what a blessing

this thread has been really helpful content-wise and as a place to gather my thoughts. thank you ilxor.com :)

it was a true pleasure

final exam today!
i have also realized that this semester was like a rough outline of what the class should be; it's more than nothing, but it will get better. overall, i think my students learned a lot! it's a lot to learn in three hour weekly bursts.

i brought the yamaha dtx drum pad i played in a show on friday to class and encouraged all of my students to try it out as they left class. it's always a joy to watch people pick up drum sticks and play for the first time, and i liked the way it marked the end of the semester. we had to keep it down because this is a school during finals week but everyone gave it a try. troopers!

new semester starts tomorrow!! i have already planned an outing for us to see a local teen mariachi troupe (who are getting sort of famous) for free on a saturday during the world music fest in september. i am exciiiiited to teach this class while the world music festival is going on!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6dRZk8QQYM

Good luck. What age/grade are students (I forgot)? Different students this semester but similar curriculum?

They are college students; it's a humanities course at a school without any humanities majors, so it's an elective for everyone. Different students, plan to keep the curriculum as much as I can since I worked so hard to develop it. I'll have to meet them and see what their musical backgrounds/interests are before I know anymore.

It is a huge relief to know I have the first few weeks pretty well figured out. Can't wait to have the "is this music?" discussion again!

LL, curious if you talked about swing era jazz as dance music?

yeah last semester i did -- we haven't made it that far this semester yet
although tonight we have guest speakers and over the weekend i took some students on an outing to see a giant cuban big band
we're about a week behind where we were last semester

Cool! I ask because I used to be a swing dancer.

if you have favorite youtubes of musicians playing while people are swing dancing, share em up! (not revival but of the original era)

Do movie clips count or are you looking for live performances? Because this is iconic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoJReiCaPk

i think i included that one last time!
movie clips are fine if they aren't from "a song is born" (actually the musical parts were the only good part of that movie, the romance made me want to hurl and every character was annoying)

Balboa, which came up around the same time as Lindy Hop but on the West coast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehVZktW0BK4&list=PL1m2S0OSei-VkqsKw0qrxQ0IfgkxBL-vO&index=13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1Fru-RttA