the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

I wonder what his dad, John Thaw, would think of that.

I'm sure that would be the making of a side-splittingly hilarious situation comedy.

lmao at the response to the broadcast of the enoch powell speech. BBC getting an absolute (justified) doing

what even is the bbc now

Nick Robinson recently had the brass balls to say that in Russia their state run television is propagandist and untrustworthy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/international-chemical-watchdog-backs-britains-findings-on-agent-used-to-poison-ex-russian-spy/

Send Corbyn to the Tower now!

Link's busted.

no worries

russian interference, obv

Sorry, I'll need definitive proof before I accept that explanation.

I've got this Russianometer spectrometer device here where it grades stuff from Not Even East German to Nuffsky Russian - start WW3.

russia's strategy of deliberate obfuscation makes definitive proof very hard to come by, you'll just have to accept my word that we have no recourse but to carpet-bomb the washington post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/international-chemical-watchdog-backs-britains-findings-on-agent-used-to-poison-ex-russian-spy/2018/04/12/4a6687ca-3e2f-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c9efd32d3531

The full quote's even worse. pic.twitter.com/08VTifLFjw

— Dave (@MediocreDave) April 12, 2018

Always hated that band and especially that spud faced rock n' roll cunt.

fucking awful they are.

Yep

Tell you what, let's vote Tory, they've got nothing to do with the lack of manufacturing jobs in South Wales, it was Corbyn that shut down the mines after all.

Nicky Wire in having incoherent politics shocker (I say this as a fairly massive Manics fan)

jobs give us meaning, claims man who has never had a proper job

you know what else industrial jobs give us? mesothelioma, bronchitis, missing limbs

tbf he does say he's "coming around" and speaks approvingly of McDonnell, albeit in insane language

Bradfield. Stupid is as stupid does I suppose, stick a white Les Paul in his mitts that'll shut the cunt up for a while.

"you know what else industrial jobs give us? mesothelioma"

I bet that fucking cunt has never been exposed to a shitload of asbestos pipe lagging because of some corrupt faked asbestos report. No that cunt made a living in 90's The Alarm tribute band.

the inane mumbling of evil

cool that this self-described band of socialists are all for shoving working-class people back down the mines instead of embracing the labour-reducing potential of automation and pushing for a fairer redistribution of wealth instead

not to mention the catastrophic environmental toll 'hardcore industries' have taken since the industrial revolution

Exactly, I hear Bradfield chipped a nail during a particularly anguished solo once.

Dropped a plectrum and his guitar roadie wasn't around to pick it up for him.

whew, lot to unpack here

The lyrics largely deal with the Manics’ attack on the dumbed-down identity politics in which Labour courted various musicians and other “hip” celebrities (“politics of celebrity”), and the abandonment of the Party’s genuinely socialist policies in order to secure power. The line “yes I have money but I hate champagne” is presumably a satirical defence of the accusation of being a “champagne socialist”, or a politician whose upper middle class upbringing and relative wealth may conflict with their outward socialist views.

Most intriguingly, ‘Socialist Serenade’ was the subject of some self-censorship on the part of the Manics. The Japanese version of the This Is My Truth album contained both this song and [B115] ‘Black Holes For The Young’ as bonus tracks (B-sides being standard bonuses on Japanese versions of Manics LPs) and printed their lyrics in the accompanying booklet. In the case of this song, a verse was printed which cannot be heard in the recording:

Robin Cook’s gone wild
He’s licking too much pussy
John Prescott’s still cool
Must be cos he’s Welsh
We’re not talking buckets of water here

Those are lyrics?

according to manicsdiscog.wordpress.com... yes

astonishingly enough

So not even "At least the lyrics are good" applies to them anymore? Not that I ever thought that, of course.

it's a b-side from 1999 apparently, so i guess it's fuel for the 'always been shit' fire

i've always thought the manics read all the right books, learned nothing from them, and turned them into turgid mor

Robin Cook’s gone wild
He’s licking too much pussy

is an absolute belter of a lyric tbf

Makes you fink.

idk, i'm not as down on him as everyone else here. Think he's talking about a real, if nebulous problem of alienation and identity there, even if he does veer towards authentocrat bollocks.

Yeah, but:

1) Those jobs aren't coming back

2) No one else in labour (or elsewhere) has a solution to that problem so it's weird to view it as a "Corbyn problem".

absolutely

“yes I have money but I hate champagne”

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not? If it isn't, it's particularly odd given that 'champagne socialist' was first coined in reference to Nye 'This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours' Bevan:

In accepting Beaverbrook's hospitality, Bevan's lifestyle and tastes themselves provoked criticism. Even the historian Robert Crowcroft, writing in 2011, dismisses Bevan as a 'Welsh miner turned bon viveur and social climber' Brendan Bracken's remark about Bevan's champagne socialism was first recounted in the Evening Standard by Churchill's son, Randolph, on 8 August 1958, the day Bracken died at the age of 57 from oesophageal cancer. Bracken is said to have berated Bevan in the drawing room of Beaverbrook's Stornoway House: 'You Bollinger Bolshevik, you ritzy Robespierre, you lounge-lizard Lenin. Look at you, swilling Max's champagne and calling yourself a socialist.' Michael Foot was given an alternative account of the incident by Frank Owen, who was also present. In this version of the story, Bevan claimed that it was his right to enjoy fine wine, and told Bracken: 'The best I ever had from you, by the way, Brendan, I'd call bottom lower-class Bolshevik Bollinger.'... Bracken was savaging Bevan for arguing for the redistribution of money and property from the richest while enjoying the fruits of wealth. Bevan, however, thought people from his working-class background had the same right as those from privileged backgrounds to enjoy the finer things in life, and his needling of Bracken for providing poor champagne was a typical flourish with which to finish his point.

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/isle-of-man-set-to-scrap-its-fitness-for-work-test/

Just as in the UK, there were criticisms of the “tick box” nature of the assessment process, the failure to deal fairly with claimants with fluctuating conditions such as ME and multiple sclerosis, and the use of unqualified and unsympathetic assessors.

So basically an appalling system that is driving people to suicide and death in the UK has been scrapped in the Isle of Man because they are a self governing crown dependency and have the wherewithal to do it. I'd say well done, but they still seem like Nazis tbh!

That American poison pixie who’s from some free-market anti-tax foundation is on QT again. WHY

oh no! I've heard her whole routine on how the NHS could be killing people much more efficiently umpteen times now.

I'd be very interested in her ideas on how to run the BBC more efficiently though.

oh apparently she's said something about people on zero contracts being absolutely content with their standard of living and loving it!

She's on Sky News most nights too, if they can't get Claire Fox or Brendan O'Neill. Dia Chakravarty must be cursing her, she's completely stole her thunder and most of her TV spots.

Nice of the BBC to resurrect the Labour/anti-Semitism controversy a week or two after it dropped off the front pages.

I am currently reading Beneath A Scarlet Sky, by Mark Sullivan, a remarkable story of WWII Milan - a harrowing read which makes the context of #LabourAntisemitism even more stark and objectionable

— Dominic Holland (@domholland) March 27, 2018

a work of period fiction was enough to get this "funnyman" angry about the Labour/anti-Semitism controversy, there is still a lot residual anger out there.

spider-man’s dad is such a dickhead