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or just eat the egg raw with boiling water chaser

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

an egg spoon is a spoon for eating boiled eggs. this is a wee iron frying pan surely

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

I have thought about this a lot and agree that "simpler" is an indefensible word choice here.

It would have been slightly more defensible to say something along the lines of rugged/primitive/elemental, back-to-basics, back-to-nature, rather than "simpler." No, of course it's not simpler than just tossing an egg around in a nonstick Calphalon over gas.

One COULD make an argument following Thoreau, who proposed a race of some distance between him walking, and someone else taking the train. Because the man who takes the train needs to work all day to earn the train fare, whereas the walker can set out immediately. But that would be bullshit, because everyone involved in the conversation clearly ALSO has a normal stove and normal skillets. It IS about the perceived coolness of the endeavor.

And on that ground, no, the egg spoon is no more precious than spatchcocking with hand-forged swords, or making your own yeast, or making broth from scavenged squirrel bones, or sous-viding your morning oatmeal, or hand-hewing your own shad planks, or raising your personal flock of civet cats to process your coffee beans, or whatever other shit some hipster gourmand recommends.

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

If I had a fireplace, wood burning stove in my house I would totally make my eggs in it. In my mind it seems more efficient and tastier.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

Activate those almonds, brother.

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

A sous vide circulator is less than $100 now, that's a pretty bad comparison to a $250 Kinfolk-approved spoon (which is pretty much the entire controversy I've seen).

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

Every time we grill (not often) I just look for random things in the kitchen to cook over a fire. I am going to try eggs now.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

If I already have a wood fire going for other reasons, I love to cook things in/on it. I am unlikely to build a roaring fire just to fry an egg, though. Just my own personal line in the sand; other may vary.

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

(i vaguely know KK from that article, she took me up the empire state building once. or was it too foggy? it was 1997)

koogs, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

I don't know why people feel the need to make this an either/or issue. It's easy enough to wake up a couple hours early and make four spoon-frizzled eggs AND half a dozen 62.5°C sous-vide eggs. The kids love to have one of each before they leave for school!

mick signals, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Truth. And if you have your own laying hens (as I presume most of us do), so convenient!

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

slow-poached Masai ostrich egg or gtfo

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

I feel like the fact that this exists means the revolution is overdue:

https://www.goldbely.com/about

posted here because it's such an absurd contradiction, enjoy all that special local small-business foodcraft by having it shipped across the country by a silicon valley startup using outrageously expensive means only within reach of the top .01%.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

https://www.goldbely.com/louie-mueller-barbecue/legendary-beef-brisket

fuuuuuuuuck you

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

i was ok with it until i scrolled down to the "the team" section

na (NA), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

Haha, yes, ship that fresh-off-the-grill bacon wrapped hot dog from Los Angeles to Maine!

nickn, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

https://www.goldbely.com/buona-italian-beef/italian-beef-sandwich-kit-8-pack

$14/each for sandwiches that are $5 each, and you still have to make them yourself. Is it really that hard to find a decent beef sandwich where you live? Or you just HAVE to have THAT beef sandwich, because you're such a special person.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

Ora King is a brand of farmed salmon raised in New Zealand. It tastes good. You can get a raw vacuum-packed fillet of it in the US for about $20/lb0/lb, or a raw artisanally vacuum-packed fillet of it shipped from NZ via Honolulu by Goldbely for https://www.goldbely.com/honolulu-fish-company/17505-ora-king-salmon75.

mick signals, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

Well, that link didn't work, did it. $175.00. One fillet of raw farmed fish. https://www.goldbely.com/honolulu-fish-company/17505-ora-king-salmon

mick signals, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

I grew up on this, the real Sloppy Joe, still a regular at any shiva in Essex County.

https://www.goldbely.com/town-hall-deli

seem to be well "curated", good to use the site as a road trip guide and skip the shipping fees.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

https://pantograph0.goldbely.com/s820/uploads/product_image/image/1909/naked-dog-fifty.f6d4a2cff5a51adabab42c242ed7dfc3.jpg

65 bucks. Buns, mustard etc not included.

mick signals, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

Ora King is a brand of farmed salmon raised in New Zealand. It tastes good. You can get a raw vacuum-packed fillet of it in the US for about $20/lb0/lb, or a raw artisanally vacuum-packed fillet of it shipped from NZ via Honolulu by Goldbely for https://www.goldbely.com/honolulu-fish-company/17505-ora-king-salmon75.

― mick signals, Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:42 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, that link didn't work, did it. $175.00. One fillet of raw farmed fish. https://www.goldbely.com/honolulu-fish-company/17505-ora-king-salmon

― mick signals, Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:43 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is very similar to the fact that they sell Table 87 pizza, which is already available in supermarkets, in the same packaging in which you get it in supermarkets. You can also get it from online grocery sites, e.g. right now Jet has the 10" pizza for $10. However, if you prefer, you can pay $10/slice for goldbely to send it to you.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

or I guess for more accurate comparison, $20 per ten inch pie:
https://www.goldbely.com/table-87/17408-coal-oven-margherita-pizza-pie-4-pack

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

I live in New York but I had never heard of this famous Table 87 Pizza. So I had to look it up. Apparently its claim to fame is selling pizza cooked in a coal oven, by the slice. Both of which are obviated if you have to buy an entire pie by mail-order and cook it in your home oven.

This is turning me right now into the curmudgeon I did not intend to become for at least another 5-7 years. I am going to close my laptop. And maybe toss it into the bathtub.

mick signals, Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

I actually did know Table 87 because I used to walk past it, but I never thought of it as a "famous" place (like Lucali, DiFara, etc.). And then I saw it on Shark Tank, when they launched this freeze-wrapped pizza idea. Which I guess is alright, but like I said, you can already order the exact same product online for literally half the price. And even at that price it seems a little expensive.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

Ess-a-Bagels, nearly $5/bagel
https://www.goldbely.com/ess-a-bagel/17232-ny-bagels-13-pack

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

looooool NJ Taylor Ham at $20/lb
https://www.goldbely.com/taylor-ham/15423-taylor-ham-pork-roll-3-lb-roll

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

And now I am researching Table 87. because I had never heard of it either. It definitely has never been talked about in the same breath as even the newer places (Motorino, Roberta's). But I guess they got lucky.

Yerac, Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

If some careless moron can't spell and goes to "goldbelly.com" by mistake, not to worry, it redirects straight to goldbely.com.

mick signals, Friday, 20 April 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

due to looking at goldbely i'm getting their ads on facebook. Feat. LCD Soundsystem.

dan selzer, Friday, 20 April 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

appropriately artisanal

as god is my waitress (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 April 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

https://www.superdenim.com/us/freedom-sleeve-sweatshirt-oatmeal.html/

Description
A crew-neck sweatshirt made in Wakayama, Japan, of 100% cotton on vintage loop wheel machines, which are known to weave a sluggish pace, with only a single meter of fabric produced every hour. When compared to contemporary manufacturing methods, Loopwheel machines apply a very low thread tension allowing the production of an exceedingly premium and unique fabric.

Lol. "This is good because it is made inefficiently."

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

exceedingly premium

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

made on the very machines that authentic, virtuous high-quality craftspeople would have smashed to pieces in protest at the destruction of their way of life

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

xp you left out the important part man alive

A crew-neck sweatshirt made in Wakayama, Japan, of 100% cotton on vintage loop wheel machines, which are known to weave a sluggish pace, with only a single meter of fabric produced every hour. When compared to contemporary manufacturing methods, Loopwheel machines apply a very low thread tension allowing the production of an exceedingly premium and unique fabric. The resulting material feels like it has been hand woven, with a stretchy element to it, a quality that cannot be replicated by modern production techniques. The crucial difference is that Loopwheel fabric is knit in an oval shaped sequence to yield a fabric that will comfortably stretch with wear, but will return to its original dimensions with a wash.

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

you may not agree that a marginal cost is worth it but it's not just "slow for slow's sake"

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

the marginal cost, not a marginal cost

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Even the "very low thread tension" of the Loopwheel process is not nothing, and -- especially in combination with the downward effect of Earth's oppressive gravitation on the threads -- tugs hurtfully at one's skin.

mick signals, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

you can buy a companion "grounding" liner iirc

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

Yet another reason to go to Wakayama this June.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

was there always a prestige line of Champion sportswear/sweats or did this pop up in recent years as a cash grab because of the trends

I always thought it was a standing brand that was just kind of standard sportswear with some downmarket products

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

lmao

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link

the ingredients, as listed on the packaging:

Milk, cream, sugar syrup, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, whey, skim milk, natural and artificial flavors, cellulose gel, guar gum, cellulose gum, mono- and diglycerides, locust bean gum, polysorbate 80, ground vanilla bean, carrageenan.CONTAINS: MILK

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

That's like one notch above the lawsuit about Drive not being a Fast and Furious type movie.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 16 May 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

a+ piece on CNC (computer numerical control) stone carving tools used by Carmelite monks.

Is it the Carmelite monks for whom labour, infrastructure projects like reclaiming land, and construction is their expression of faith? Is the computer code that makes it easier to accomplish this godly or impious? it’s just a tool, right?

contains a grebt coding bug anecdote:

At the very end of each window sill, after it had completely finished carving, the code told the CNC machine to repeatedly pound down into the top of the sill, almost as if it was a giant fist.

Fizzles, Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

it was the cistercians.

Fizzles, Saturday, 17 December 2022 10:44 (one year ago) link

that's sick as hell

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 19 December 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link


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