Ween. Are they great or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-J6d7zUsc8&app=desktop

really on a rare Ween track kick right now. there are so many good ones. kinda funny given some of the garbage that actually *does* make the album.

If memory serves, most of those Mollusk outtakes have merit.

https://archive.org/details/ween2018-08-17.MK4-2448

https://archive.org/details/ween2018-08-18.MK4-2448

two high-quality recordings of the band's recent Portland shows. they sound amazing.

Is the boredoms collabo any good

haven't heard it in a long time. some people really like it but it sounds like it was just recorded over a long weekend or something

this song is just the weirdest/most dumbest thing, I love it

https://youtu.be/mwjuh8HjsmY

could swore Deaner left to do his own thing

I can’t believe this band never made it big.

think the story is that Gene broke up the band due to his addiction problems, as apparently he'd get offered drugs and alcohol nonstop while the group was touring which is ahh pretty hard for an addict. Dean Ween Band is just something for Dean to do in the meantime

I'm not really sure what the status of Ween proper is now. can't really blame them for getting back together given that Ween can sell out decent sized venues while their solo acts tend to hit the local band spots. I mean they still sound great and they're still doing wild 3-hour sets, so idk what the deal is

Deaner never left: Gene left during that period of getting sober when they tell you not to make any major life decisions. Deaner started two new bands to play local bars & the rest of the live Ween band carried on playing Ween songs in clubs as The Dean Ween Group for a few years. They now have two albums of originals and a rotating membership, and don’t play any Ween hits live.

Gener tried to play Ween-sized venues off the back of his solo album of Rod McKuen covers, unsurprisingly flopped hard, licked his wounds and after a few years played a reunion show at Red Rocks. It doesn’t seem likely that they’ll write & record together again, but Ween now play handfuls of big shows through the year, and Dean keeps playing bars at home and clubs on the road.

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I can't believe this movie had 8 minutes of Ween-related scenes in it. my god they look so young

https://vimeo.com/115094989

I can't believe Gene Ween & Slash covered "Wiggle Wiggle"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=digqBlJlyKE

last night's show in Milwaukee was excellent. we missed the first song ("Buckingham Green", I'm told), and the second was "Laura", a song I didn't even know they played live. in all, they played like, half of The Pod, and a bunch from Pure Guava too. they also did a cover of Bowie's "Lets Dance". kind of wish I wasn't so wasted for it, but that's Ween for ya. I gotta say, their crowds are exactly as advertised.

the show last night in st. paul was stupendous. 'fluffy' solo blew the roof off the palace. excited for 2nd show tonight. i'm sober now so knowing gene was too was sort of helpful and inspiring? but yes their fans are dirt twirling hippies and weirdos, it's great

show is already up, wow. well fluffy was the last song of main set- also funny was '# Deaner plays Gener's guitar to sound more like "Jerry" wherein he put on heavy mutron and got that gooey 78 estimated prophet sound. they can be such hams, dean especially

https://archive.org/details/Ween2018-11-03.MK012

😊

all i see turns to brown

This is a very good semi-officially band-approved fan comp that I never knew about for some reason. About 2/3 pulled from Pod-era. Flows nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi8HeoaLCaQ

I wish their live shows would include a 20-30 minute section with cassettes as the backing tracks. Pure Guava songs sound weird live imo.

it's weird they turned into the grateful dead for people who know who Steve Albini is

great post

yah perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K65dRRa3GoM

this isn't on that comp but it's probably one of my favorite songs full stop.

I think if I made a list of "Top 10 songs I can't believe weren't ever on a studio album", Ween would have like 6 of them

True, without pulling from any b-sides they could easily fill an all-killer Shinola Vol 2. I don't get why it hasn't happened yet.

it's weird they turned into the grateful dead for people who know who Steve Albini is

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

Omg this is so accurate

Did they have a jam band audience at all before Phish started playing Roses Are Free (1997)?

I don't think so, they were marketed as an "alternative" act when they arrived on the scene in the height of 90s alternative music marketing mania.

I don't know, but I definitely knew some guys in college circa 1994-95 that listened to a lot of jam bands but also listened to a ton of Ween.

In fact, now that I think about it, it was the guy that taped me my first batch of Dead tapes in college that also introduced me to Chocolate and Cheese and Pure Guava.

True, without pulling from any b-sides they could easily fill an all-killer Shinola Vol 2. I don't get why it hasn't happened yet.

Dean said the process of making the first one was really exhausting - apparently a lot of the demos weren't really in releasable condition, so a lot had to be recorded fresh. Also they don't really like revisiting old songs. Still, a Shinola Vol. 2 would sell a ton of copies so yeah idk why they didn't make it

I'm not exhaustive in keeping up with Ween in message boards or anything, but a buddy sent me a 4-disc, 100-song rarities thing years ago that I understand to be pretty widely appreciated. It's still my most listened to Ween thing:

::VOLUME 1::
1.I Smoke Some Grass And Get Really Really High (B-side)
2.Mango Woman (B-side)
3.Puerto Rican Power pts.1&2 (B-side)
4.Now I'm Freaking Out (C&C outtake/B-side)
5.There's A Pig (B-side)
6.Vallejo (B-side)
7.Ode To Rene' (B-side)
8.Bakersfield
9.Skycruiser
10.Cruise Control
11.Sweet Texas Fire (Piss Up A Rope B-side)
12.Albino Sunburned Girl (Holland 1990-From Jug Is Quaid Tape)
13.Hippy Smell
14.I'm Fat
15.I'm Fat pt.2
16.Fat Albert
17.Little Peta
18.Oblongs (Little Peta diff.mix)
19.Little Peta (drum mix)
20.Koko (demo?)
21.Koko
22.Silent Night
23.Mr.Mocha (Pure Guave outtake version)
24.Big Dick Black
25.Spleen
26.Motown (with vocals)
27.Main Vein
28.S'amuse Comme Un Peut
29.Transitions
30.Grounded For Life (13 second T.V. version)

::VOLUME 2::
31.I Got No Darkside (12 GCG outtake)
32.So Long Jerry (12 GCG outtake)
33.Booze Me Up And Get Me High (Mollusk outtake)
34.I'll Be Your Johnny On The Spot (demo version)
35.Mr Richard Smoker (90 Second TV version-never used)
36.Cornbread Red
37.Cornbread Red (dub mix)
38.Who Dat?
39.Shot Heard 'Round The World (Schoolhouse Rocks)
40.Boys Club
41.I'll Miss You (Beautiful Girls Soundtrack)
42.Eye 2 The Sky (rejected song for 'Muppets In Space')
43.Love (Orgasmo Soundtrack)
44.Fancy Pants (Crank Yankers version)
45.Greg The Bunny (written for TV show-never used)
46.Homo Rainbow (demo)
47.Homo Rainbow (Chef Aid version)
48.Loop De Loop (Spongebob Squarepants episode)
49.I Can't Put My Finger On It (Conan O'Brien)
50.Freedom Of 76' (120 Minutes Performance-1995)
51.Golden Eel (Viva Variety-1997))
52.Buckingham Green (Nothing TV-Public Access Television show-1997)
53.She Wanted To Leave (Nothing TV-Public Access Television show-1997)
54.Mutitlated Lips (Oddville-1997)
55.Exactly Where I'm At (Letterman-2000)
56.Making Love In The Gravy (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)
57.Dual (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)

::VOLUME THREE::
58.Beacon Light (X-Files Soundtrack)
59.Stallion Pt.4 (C&C Outtake)
60.Did You See Me? (Mollusk Outtake)
61.I Still Love You (Done for Mickey and Aaron's Insurance Salesman)
62.Junky Boy (Pandy Fackler Tape)
63.No More Tears (Pandy Fackler Tape)
64.Numb To The Lung (Pandy Fackler Tape)
65.Nicole Pt.4 (Pandy Fackler Tape)
66.Purple Haze (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
67.The Wind Cries Mary (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
68.Bold As Love (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
69.Little Wing (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
70.Kansas City Star
71.Love Will Conquer All
72.Chairman Of My Destiny
73.Unknown Title (demo)
74.Baboon Pt.2
75.Time To Yourself
76.Surfeited
77.Little Miss Mandee
78.Happy Colored Marbles (Carson Daly Show-2003)

::VOLUME FOUR::
79.Square Wave Jam (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)
80.Touch My Tooter (KCRW Radioshow-Morning Becomes Eclectic)
81.Buenos Tardes Amigo (demo)
82.Flutes Of The Chi (Mollusk Outtake/Reject version)
83.Ocean Man (demo version)
84.Mickey (Pigface-Deaner & Andrew)
85.Cold-Mickey pt.2 (Pigface-Deaner & Andrew)
86.Hello Johnny (White Pepper Demo)
87.I'll Wait (Mollusk Outtake/Demo)
86.She'll Just Get You (White Pepper Demo)
89.Fool To Cry (Rolling Stones Cover)
90.Argus (Not Quebec version-completely diff.song)
91.Even If You Don't (demo)
92.Where'd The Cheese Go? (Pizza Hut Commercial rejected song)
93.Where'd The Motherfucking Cheese Go At? (reworked Pizza Hut jingle)
94.Champagne Jam (Run Ronnie Run Soundtrack)
95.Transdermal Celebration (Quebec rehearsals)
96.Ooh Va La (Quebec rehearsals)
97.Tried And True (Quebec rehearsals)
98.Alcan Road (Quebec rehearsals)
99.Ooh Va La (Quebec outtake/B-side)
100.Mountains And Buffalos (Quebec outtake/B-side)

Still, a Shinola Vol. 2 would sell a ton of copies so yeah idk why they didn't make it

People stopped buying tons of copies of anything, and Aaron & Mickey stopped working together offstage. It’s been, what, fourteen years since they recorded anything?

well yeah it would be bizarre if they made it now. they should've done it in 2009.

I'm saying that we can now see that they had stopped working together by 2009

The Grateful Dead / ween connection was...dudes who smoked weed

^ Jon's friend's mix can be found on slsk fwiw

It's also on Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/WeenBSidesDemosRarities

That material and much more besides can be found in this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/ween/comments/5shi2h/ween_unreleased_anthology_35/

I don't know, but I definitely knew some guys in college circa 1994-95 that listened to a lot of jam bands but also listened to a ton of Ween.

The Grateful Dead / ween connection was...dudes who smoked weed

Just wanted to say that White Pepper is a genius pop album

i love white pepper maybe my fave

Cat stevens is on "Gener" terms with gene ween pic.twitter.com/hyLmq7Vxaj

— josh 'Letterman' (oldfriend99) (@oldfriend99) August 10, 2017

<3

I haven't listened to any Ween studio albums in a while, but I just listened to Quebec and I'm both stunned at how fucking great it is and irritated that they couldn't keep it going for a few more albums. I think everything they were aiming for they found right here. Now I'm looking on RYM and it's their highest rated (3.93) - when did that happen!?

Yeah, I don't know if I can offer any further info on the why of it, but Quebec has really quietly turned into a consistent fan favorite over the last five or so years.

Speaking of Ween (glad you bumped this thread today frogbs, they've been on my mind what with Deaner's bday), is there any sort of attempted comprehensive list of the stylistic homages they do to other bands on the internet? There's quite a few reddit threads dedicated to the idea, but none that seem all encompassing.

Don't forget to pair Quebec with era-appropriate B-sides (ooh va la & mountains and buffalo) and the Caesar demos

Quebec is easily my favorite. It is the deepest and most of the songs are about Heavy Shit. I wish they had made the soft rock album that I know they had in them. Your Party is my favorite from Cucaracha.

I wonder if the release of the Caesar demos has something to do with its re-evaluation. As good as the album is I do wish they found a place for those 2 B-sides at least. Ooh Va La was my favorite track on it for a while (but it's only on the Japanese version that I had to download)