Let us Anticipate "Call Me By Your Name"

I was sure this revive would be for

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/04/luca-guadagnino-suspiria-dakota-johnson-therapy-1201955909/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgOEg2Drs3w&

hey guys once again I'm six months late to a buzzworthy film!

this wasn't badly made or poorly acted or offensive or anything but I did find it fairly dull. the classical Greek sculpture backdrop seemed very DO U SEE and the general arc of their relationship made me wonder if the structure of escalating sexual tension > dramatic consummation > dissappointment/betrayal (also evident in Y Tu Mama Tambien and Brokeback Mountain and probably some others I can't recall right now) is turning into some kind of cliche'd template for gay love stories in these kind of "prestige" pictures.

Y Tu Mamá También is a gay love story?

in the sense that ppl seemed to get *really* wound up about the buildup to TWO GUYS KISSING ON-SCREEN yeah, it was treated as such imo

I didn't really like it either tbf

I admit I'm hard-pressed to think of a depiction of a gay couple in a nominally mainstream film that I find at all engaging. comedies and weirder stuff (Fassbinder's "Fox and Friends" etc), sure

Gay relationships do admittedly lend themselves to comedy and weirder stuff, tbh.

lol

now that I think about it, most dramas that focus on the minutiae of a hetero couple's relationship bore me too. maybe I just hate ppl lol. but there always has to be something *else* going on beyond "omg when are they going to have hot sex" to maintain my interest.

shakey have you come around on Fassbinder?

I have always been a fan of certain things of Fassbinder's! def not all of it, he can get p tiresome

ah gotcha. yeah I like Fassbinder but have only seen like 13 of his movies, like most of them a lot, but I don't hold any of them dear. except maybe The Merchant of Four Seasons. too brutal and hopeless. I was just reading this thread last night, some really great discussion about Fassbinder's work being "horizontal" - no underbelly, no success, everyone is equally fucked. Tarkovsky otoh I worship

I think 'escalating sexual tension > dramatic consummation > disappointment/betrayal' is a dramatic arc of most love stories, gay or straight

there has to be something after that though.....some kind of growth, understanding

that kind of story line never gets old for me

*storyline

Dan S otm, any love story that doesn't follow that structure is usually a comedy

and not a courtship of mine (retired)

my problem with this movie is that the first hour, before the dance around the memorial, could have been pared down to around 10 minutes. i get the structure of these and the first act doesn't need to be so drawn out.

yeah i remember finding this pretty but way too long. but i am also a straight.

any love story that doesn't follow that structure is usually a comedy

yeah I guess that's true. Last Tango in Paris fits, for ex. Not a story form for me, I guess.

yeah but wouldn't you fuck Timothee Chalamet, comedy or not?

maybe I'm just old but I'm past the point of getting any enjoyment out of films based on the relative attractiveness of the ppl onscreen

I guess it's happening.

The director has offered an update on his plans for the next chapter in Elio and Oliver's life. Speaking to Italian outlet Bad Taste (translation via The Playlist), Guadagnino revealed that the opening shot of the sequel will mirror the final shot of Call Me By Your Name, which ended with Elio crying while staring into a fireplace. This time, Guadagnino said, Elio will be crying while watching a movie instead:

"I’m asking myself if in the new chapter of the life of Elio, Oliver and the Perlman family we should let them pass by Crema or not… but I don’t think so. Let’s give a small scoop: the sequel (but I don’t like to call it a sequel, their story is a ‘cycle’) will take place in Paris. And it begins with Elio crying. With this light shining into his eyes… and we wonder: are we still where we left him (in front of the fireplace)? No: he’s crying because he’s watching the ending of one of the best movies of the eighties, Paul Vecchiali’s masterpiece ‘Once More'. Absolutely consistent with the character: Elio loves Paul Vecchiali’s cinema… that is melancholic like him."

And...

André Aciman has revealed that he is writing a sequel to his bestselling novel Call Me By Your Name, which was adapted into an Oscar-winning film starring Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer.

A coming-of-age story detailing the poignant summer romance between teenager Elio and the slightly older Oliver, a graduate student who visits Elio’s family home in Italy, Aciman’s 2007 novel was adapted into a film last year. While the film ends with the pair still young, the novel gives a glimpse into Elio and Oliver’s future, showing a meeting between the lovers 20 years after their short affair.

Aciman revealed on Tuesday that readers would soon be given further insight into how the characters’ lives develop. “I would actually love a sequel to Call Me By Your Name. In fact I am writing one,” he tweeted.

The film’s director Luca Guadagnino has already been clear about his plans to follow the story with a series of sequels. “The novel has 40 pages at the end that goes through the next 20 years of the lives of Elio and Oliver, so there is some sort of indication through the intention of [the author] that the story can continue,” he told the Hollywood Reporter earlier this year. “In my opinion, Call Me can be the first chapter of the chronicles of the life of these people that we met in this movie, and if the first one is a story of coming of age and becoming a young man, maybe the next chapter will be, what is the position of the young man in the world, what does he want – and what is left a few years later of such an emotional punch that made him who he is?”

Oh

The Elio Crying Cycle

hmmmm

don't think I'd watch or read any of them, but good luck to both

The novel sequel?

It fucking sucks.

Extremely unsavoury, to put it mildly. I made it two episodes in. Apparently, in later episodes the 14 yo protagonist has sex with the soldier who flashes his cock to him in episode one.

Oh shit, sorry, I thought you were talking about Guadagnino's HBO/BBC series called We Are Who We Are. Which is fucking terrible.

hahahaha

No -- the sequel to CMBYN.

both extremely bad then.

I only read Enigma Variations, it was not very good, but liked CMBYN the film

I haven’t seen We Are Who We Are, but Tom Mercier’s cock is awesome