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excellent -- thank you!

one of the highlights from this week was letting my students browse some of my early 80s records. one of them asked me from across the room "what's this?" and held up new order's low-life <3 she liked the look of it
lots of highlights this week though for sure. i told them that rock music started to splinter like those brooms in fantasia
lol

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

low-life was a little after my cutoff date for this week but we were talking about joy division and she fell right into my teaching trap :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

question --

the billboard charts appear to introduce Latin music to their archives in 1985. then, in 1986, there appears to be a war between two artists recording the same song "toda la vida" (franco & emmanuel) and trading off #1 spots? does anyone know what was going on there?
https://www.billboard.com/archive/charts/1986/latin-songs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

nm i found some articles about it in English and Spanish !! here is one in english https://www.lemonwire.com/2017/10/18/classics-latin-music-toda-la-vida-emmanuel-also-franco/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

More important question for rap heads --
any recommended lists of classics from the mid-late 80s? I am looking for someone with more authority than me to tell my students what rap albums were essential during that period.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

run-dmc raising hell

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

Er, haven't listened to any of these in quite a while, but sounded pretty damn good at the time and should still be at least of historical interest (several seemed vanguard back in the day):
Eric B & Rakim: Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
Afrika Bambaataa: Planet Rock---The Album, Looking for the Perfect Beat 1980-1985
Beastie Boys: Licensed to Ill
Boogie Down Productions:Criminal Minded (the only one I know of feat. innovative DJ Scott LaRock, though I always enjoyed the musicality of KRS-One's voice, despite/sometimes in tandem with some of his nutty words)
Think female rappers may have been more 90s? But some good albs in 80s:
Neneh Cherry, Raw Like Sushi
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: The Message
MC Lyte: Eyes On This
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Queen Latifa: All Hail The Queen(some were v. skeptical 'til I played it)
The Real Roxanne: s/t
Salt-N-Peppa: Hot, Cool and Vicious (def. on the pop side, but got the flava!)
Blanking on some of my compilation tapes, but these should be historical and fun:
Rap's Greatest Hits (Priorty label: breezy & gritty & goofin')
Rap's Greatest Hits Vol. 2 (Sugarhill!)
Mr. Magic's Rap Attack, Vol. 4 (radio radio!)

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane is a must, plus some obvious ones like De La - 3 Feet High and Rising and NWA - Straight Outta Compton

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

I'm not enough of a head to attest to the value of these personally, but Ego Trip's lists are online: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/ego_trip_page2.htm

rob, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

The Perfect Beats: New York Electro Hip Hop + Underground Dance Classics 1980-1985 (I've got four volumes, may be more)

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

Also, Steinski always had his own vision of hip-hop, from the early 80s at least, maybe the 70s, and some of the 80s stuff, remastered, is posted via this official site, his and early partner Double Dee's--join the mailing list and get a code for download of yr. choice: https://ddski.com/ (early stuff on youtube as well).Burning Out of Control, Steinski's panoramic mix album of Sugarhill tracks, some deep in the catalog, is very edutational.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

*has* always had, I meant: he's still at it.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

"edutational"? Screw it, it's very educational and entertaining.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

RIP Jabo :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

working on my final exam study guide
i can't believe i get paid to do this!
what a blessing

this thread has been really helpful content-wise and as a place to gather my thoughts. thank you ilxor.com :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

it was a true pleasure

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

final exam today!
i have also realized that this semester was like a rough outline of what the class should be; it's more than nothing, but it will get better. overall, i think my students learned a lot! it's a lot to learn in three hour weekly bursts.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

i brought the yamaha dtx drum pad i played in a show on friday to class and encouraged all of my students to try it out as they left class. it's always a joy to watch people pick up drum sticks and play for the first time, and i liked the way it marked the end of the semester. we had to keep it down because this is a school during finals week but everyone gave it a try. troopers!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:10 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

new semester starts tomorrow!! i have already planned an outing for us to see a local teen mariachi troupe (who are getting sort of famous) for free on a saturday during the world music fest in september. i am exciiiiited to teach this class while the world music festival is going on!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 August 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

Good luck. What age/grade are students (I forgot)? Different students this semester but similar curriculum?

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

They are college students; it's a humanities course at a school without any humanities majors, so it's an elective for everyone. Different students, plan to keep the curriculum as much as I can since I worked so hard to develop it. I'll have to meet them and see what their musical backgrounds/interests are before I know anymore.

It is a huge relief to know I have the first few weeks pretty well figured out. Can't wait to have the "is this music?" discussion again!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 August 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

LL, curious if you talked about swing era jazz as dance music?

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

yeah last semester i did -- we haven't made it that far this semester yet
although tonight we have guest speakers and over the weekend i took some students on an outing to see a giant cuban big band
we're about a week behind where we were last semester

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

Cool! I ask because I used to be a swing dancer.

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

if you have favorite youtubes of musicians playing while people are swing dancing, share em up! (not revival but of the original era)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

Do movie clips count or are you looking for live performances? Because this is iconic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoJReiCaPk

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

i think i included that one last time!
movie clips are fine if they aren't from "a song is born" (actually the musical parts were the only good part of that movie, the romance made me want to hurl and every character was annoying)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

Balboa, which came up around the same time as Lindy Hop but on the West coast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehVZktW0BK4&list=PL1m2S0OSei-VkqsKw0qrxQ0IfgkxBL-vO&index=13

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

Wow, didn't know about this thread or that you were teaching that, but sounds like a blast. A friend in a CUNY music PhD program once invited me to do a little guest thing on jazz for her freshman music appreciation class and I loved putting together the lesson and teaching it.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

it's really fun!! this is the second semester i've taught it, and it's much easier the second time now that i have some presentations prepared. it feels like a privilege and honor to go to work and talk about music for 3 hours!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

tonight we are getting schooled on afro-colombian traditional music, dance, and drumming!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

omg so this is midterms and i just heard some very loud music coming from the headphones of one of my students. the songs i wanted them to listen to (both fairly quiet) are linked on our LMS as well as available offline (on CD) but apparently one student was determined to just google the song title and wound up listening to a version of "The Foggy Dew" by some group called Wenches and Rogues
lol
it sounded awful

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link

I’m sure it possible to assemble an all-ukulele version of any listening syllabus

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

but why?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

masochism?

the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link

To teach the dangers of random YouTube searches

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

make wenches/rogues read benjamin's "work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction" as penance

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

my cousin works with a community over 60's ukulele band project. He's always posting the results on youtube like as if this hateful twee shit is bringing some fucking light into the world.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

teaching as a profession isn't masochism enough? j/k i love teaching but grading sucks

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

Lolol wenches and rogues

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

next week i am expanding my international jazz diaspora content and i would like to see any recommendations y'all have for the following: (requesting googleable search terms and youtubes if you feel like it)

Caribbean/Cuban jazz (past or present)
Brazilian jazz (I think this is actually the easiest one for me but bring it on if you have qreat ideas)
Japanese jazz (i know nothing at all about this but i assume Japan has produced some jazz or jazz-esque artists?)
African (I am aware of some Ethiopian jazz but not much beyond that)
Other parts of the world that have produced jazz-like or jazz-influenced/saturated music?

I'm familiar with some big names but i am wondering what i'm missing
help if you can! thank you

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

Cuban piano maestro Chucho Valdes (son of Bebo) is someone I like a lot, his 90's Blue Note albums are all brilliant, his solo Pianissimo alb is a good showcase for his piano genius and feel for some Cuban standards. There is probably loads more good stuff, but that is far as I've got.

calzino, Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

Just been listening to his Solo Piano alb from '91, it's wonderful!

calzino, Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

almost Cecil Taylor wonderful in parts!

calzino, Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

I've been digging the by-way-of-Sweden African jazz of Bengt Berger & Don Cherry's Bitter Funeral Beer Band. The 80s fashion disasters can dissuade, but the music is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4hKAS_tQ9w&index=5&list=PL9E8643186918FD23

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

Also, Soviet-era Vagif Mustafazade explorations connecting jazz to Azerbaijan's folk and classical traditions. His straight up 1970s jazz is great, but stuff like this is particularly intriguing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BId54VzErTU&index=23&list=PLB290E8FF6C96C1D6

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Sunday, 28 October 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

ok this is going to get messy and isn't necessarily going to be straight jazz

eastern bloc jazz - lost of it. really great polish jazz, of course, well-known enough that i figure you won't need me to recommend you for instance zbigniew seifert or tomasz stanko. but also the soviet union itself had some sweet jazz musos, i'm gonna break these links so they don't clog up the thread

melodiya ensemble's labyrinth: fgwNtnGYBAg
yuri morozov from "jazz night": 4a_PbwuuO_E
marimba plus: sE-Ya6rL66c

japanese jazz - a couple of great comps out this year, "j-jazz" it gets called. here's a random comp off the youtube: kNRIFhkYONc - for more modern stuff i really like "soil & 'pimp' sessions", here's a video of them AQMgXPFzdg8 - oh and of course i LOVE LOVE LOVE shibusashirazu orchestra, goddamn you cannot go wrong with these people UfW2j5tFVGI

african jazz - aside from ethio-jazz the biggest jazz scene i know is the south african jazz scene, a lot of these folks came to england and are well-known, chris mcgregor etc, also abdullah ibrahim (FXfWLrLwW_4). the guy known as the south african charlie parker was kippie moeketsi, he didn't record much but here's one of his songs: (k3mMEr5UnRI). like a lot of jazz music jazz in africa mutated into forms we might not necessarily recognize as "jazz" - kwela and suchlike, and of course there's stuff like the famous "skokiaan" by the cold storage band from zimbabwe in the "tsaba-tsaba" style (and the b-side of which is a charming take on "in the mood" with vocals, see: https://soulsafari.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/african-dance-band-of-the-cold-storage-commission-of-s-rhodesia-in-the-mood.mp3) which i'm not going to cover here but much of which is damn good. for more modern south african stuff you want to hear Nduduzo Makhathini: sTr5a93n4fw

cuban jazz - you're talking after the "afro-cuban" heyday, i'm assuming, you don't need to know about machito. jazz in cuba post this of course developed into the well-known "boogaloo" style but also into something called "descargas", one of the best albums in this genre is cachao y su ritmo caliente - "cuban jam sessions in miniature 'descargas'", here: B6KenosUuJ8. some good trombone here, also in this vein worth hearing el trombon majadero by generoso jimenez, ub_l9M3GVWo. for more modern stuff i like yosvany terry's "contrapuntisco", it is definitely very complex and academic, apologies for that, that's just how i tend to like my jazz QCbkJbQLku8

i'd also recommend jan johansson's "jazz pa svenska", this is european jazz but it uses traditional swesish melodies as its basis, see t2D5HlKLh34&list=PLKUyqLlH6brkzzJgD6Gdriga4mdtCAMBJ

you probably got more on brazilian jazz than me, i'd be remiss if i didn't recommend the quarteto novo album tho y374WwqZtOI

a good australian jazz record is yaarandoo by rob thomsett 5ym3rzdx-Bc

anyway. lots of good jazz.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 28 October 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

that's ok! thank you!! i am trying to show students how the concept/basic idea of jazz spread all over the world and cross-pollinated with other cultures. they are really interested in cross-cultural stuff.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 28 October 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link


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