the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

‘aristo wrangler’ - what is a word for something that sounds good, but is not good in practice?

Lenny Kravitz.

capitalism amirite

I've just been informed that Tory council candidates walked out of a hustings in the area after a young man questioned their response to Grenfell. Let me be clear - if you cannot talk to your residents, you should not be on the council.

— Emma Dent Coad (@emmadentcoad) April 26, 2018

I'm not sure what turnout is going to be like and it's usually pitiful in local elections but I'd be surprised if it wasn't very high in Kensington and Chelsea.

The Conservatives were already worrying about previous safe seats because of the post-Grenfell effect, and with the Windrush scandal still so fresh perhaps a higher turnout than usual?

the BBC broadcast some inadvertent Labour propaganda this morning by playing an interview with the 12 year old J R Mogg from the archives. I'm sure Nick Robinson found it quite whimsical and charming, but most of humanity were feeling this kid should be encouraged to spend more time playing near motorways + railway lines.

This lovely person is the tory candidate for my ward

Got an advert for the @Conservatives through the door today. Checked out the twitter feed of one of the candidates, and, oh... (thread) pic.twitter.com/5I75gOd8pW

— Pete Wilson (@peterkwilson) April 25, 2018

Lest we forget Jared O'Mara stepped down for having an equally as offensive/unpleasant social media record, but different rules or something.

the craziest thing about that is he sounds like a bitter 50-year-old divorcee but he was.... 18 when he tweeted all that????

Apparently this is yesterday's news, and they've found tweets calling a 12-year-old mother a "dirty slag", defending Ian Watkins and, yes, attacking Jared O'Mara for bad tweeting, and now he's been suspended from the party.

One of my local candidates is the co-chairwoman of controversial group Jewish Voice For Labour. She's been in the papers recently for antisemitic comments, obviously she is Jewish herself but I wouldn't be comfortable with some of the things she's said if they came from someone who wasn't Jewish. "Jews are often agents of exploitation" isn't differentiating Jews from the actions of Israel imo. That's if that quote is accurate I suppose, it's from the Times and the article is paywalled so you can only see that bit.

jesus, I didn't realise those Labour Harbouring Holocaust Deniers vans in London was a thing.

We're gonna need a longer van.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F09aa75b0-424f-11e8-9618-96ec7a8a2ce5.jpg?crop=5513%2C3101%2C28%2C584&resize=685

I'd propose sending out some "Fuck Ken Livingstone, the absolute fucking clown" vans out there, but it might be counterproductive.

Meanwhile QT invites the likes of this guy to the audience:

#bbcqt gave Johnathan Jennings a reserved seat (he was in place before the audience was let in) and a guaranteed question with Racist undertones.

Jennings is now on Bail awaiting Trial for 10 (Ten) Racial Hatred Offences.#bbcqt - You no longer have integrity or relevancy. pic.twitter.com/QKXKHIsyZc

— Far Right Watch (@Far_Right_Watch) April 26, 2018

Thread says he wasn’t on last night but recently. Anyone see him?

the royal baby is named louis arthur charles

naming your kid after the guy on the throne during the french revolution is a bold move, it's like they want us to storm the palace and lead the entire royal family to the guillotines

are they all called arthur or is it me?

cockney rhyming slang?

what a bunch of J Arthur's

there have only ever been about four names for european kings, regardless of country

charles
philip
louis
henry

in england you can add in james and george

yeah, it's not just the gene pool that's shallow

Abbott says no to a long-term illegal immigrant amnesty but doesn't really explain why, beyond wanting to downplay that as it's not the issue re Windrush.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-43920554/question-time-should-there-be-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants

But puzzled as to why Dimbleby raised it at all as AFAIK Johnson has not renewed his (phony) call for it from ten years ago, or has he?

probably trying to set a trap.

Labour has absolutely nothing to lose and a lot to gain by purging anyone making antisemitic comments from the party and it doesn't make sense that seemingly no one has been after nearly a month.

Yeah, that fills me with dread.

Anyway, first comment hall of fame.

Anybody any good at making placards? Asking for a friend. https://t.co/dUAamyBT8s

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) April 26, 2018

how do we really know which louis the new royal was named after

it's happened now, Matt - Marc Wadsworth is out

and it doesn't make sense that seemingly no one has been after nearly a month.

The disciplinary process seems incredibly bureaucratic and hopefully this is something Formby can change.

They probably have to follow procedure to avoid the risk of legal challenges esp in cases like this where they don’t want things dragging on and on.

*blinks* pic.twitter.com/4ZEpAN3RfF

— taisie (@TaisieT) April 27, 2018

'i've never seen a study of this effect'

jings, i wonder why

lolico getting into race science via jordan peterson is... something i guess

I'm sorry for bringing that cursed name to this thread, but it is sure something!

Hello, please have this GIF of Peter Hitchens losing an award to Matthew Parris pic.twitter.com/uRNPhy5Pr8

— Thomas Colson (@tpgcolson) April 26, 2018

tfw the other bald man wins the comb

Wadsworth being charged with bringing the party into disrepute rather than antisemitism directly. Clear as mud.

His outburst pretty much ruined a launch event and ensured hostile media talked about that and not the Chakrabati Report. He could have made all the same points and observations afterward (it is not antisemitic to say an MP appears to be a contact of a Telegraph reporter) without starting a row that did bring Labour into disrepute.

Chris Williamson is a total idiot + liability and it is only matter of time before he says something idiotic on RT or summat. Somebody put a muzzle on him at least until May 3rd has passed.

Amber Rudd's bad fortnight continues
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/27/amber-rudd-was-told-about-migrant-removal-targets-leak-reveals

is there a full transcript online anywhere of what Wadsworth actually said at the Chakrabarti Inquiry event? There's a clip of some of it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHv3D7g4RH4

this is the description on Wadsworth's wiki page

At a launch, to which the media were invited, on 30 June 2016 for the publication of the Chakrabarti Inquiry report into allegations of antisemitism and racism in the Labour Party, Daily Telegraph journalist Kate McCann questioned Jeremy Corbyn about a "Momentum member" handing out a "leaflet" calling for the deselection of anti-Corbyn MPs. Wadsworth had earlier given McCann a copy of his "press release" at her request. In response to the question about him, Wadsworth responded by publicly stating that he saw the Telegraph journalist handing a copy of the press release to Labour MP Ruth Smeeth, and thus claimed to have spotted who was "working hand in hand", a reference to anti-Corbyn Labour MPs colluding with the right-wing press.

Most of Wadsworth's brief comments, captured on a minute-long widely publicised video, were about the under-representation of Africans, Caribbeans and Asians at the launch, about which Corbyn told the meeting he agreed.

handing out leaflets at this event calling for deselection probably not helpful, but it seems unfair to characterise this as an 'outburst' - I think Wadsworth is entitled to reply to the comments made by McCann, and entitled to make the point about the lack of black people at the event, given that the terms of reference for the Chakrabarti Inquiry were explicitly to look at all forms of racism, not just anti-semitism. imo setting the inquiry up this was a mistake, and as many ppl said at the time Corbyn should have set up a report looking exclusively at anti-semitism in Labour, extending the brief to all forms of racism just looked like an attempt to muddy the waters, but given that he didn't Wadsworth had every right to make the points he did. Unless there's something that I'm missing, it seems like Wadsworth has been treated in a pretty shabby fasion here? (are there other examples of him saying or doing anything problematic apart from this incident at the report launch)

there seems to be something dubious and implicitly racist about the way a number of accounts of this describe Wadsworth as behaving in an 'aggressive' or 'threatening' manner, which don't really seem to be borne out by the evidence

xp should say "imo setting the inquiry up this WAY was a mistake"

there have only ever been about four names for european kings, regardless of country

charles
philip
louis
henry

in england you can add in james and george

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), 27. april 2018 12:25 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

come on!

lol

i'm not counting the palatinate dawg

So what price Rudd resigning and being replaced by a returning...Patel? Too soon? Can't go on "holiday" abroad if you're the Home Sec! /smartguyjpeg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DburcEqX4AA2GGT.jpg

Much too soon, I’d guess.

iirc she misled May as well as the press initially, or that was the line they took.

In my defence it legit feels like several years have passed since Patel agreed to resign.