the dennis miller thing at the beginning cracked me up
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
I thought they were joking about Chapo Twitch at first. Very on brand.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
Well, people have been asking them to do one for like a year now, too
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
whats their take on movie theaters?
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
IIRC it was mostly Amber complaining about people who rat out loud audience members to theater employees. She referred to them as snitches or cops or something like that.
― JRN, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
they think people should be able to text/use their phones in movie theaters
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:11 (six years ago) link
Amber otm. as annoying as that is, narcs suck
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
Nah fuck theater goers they deserve fascism
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
we need narcs
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link
especially in movie theaters
The Alamo experience is what you’re paying for. If you don’t like it, go to one of the many other movie theaters housed in the mostly large towns they’re in.
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
Oh no, this theater is full of narcs, however will I see Infinity War in New York City?!
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
tbf Amber thinks everyone is a cop
― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:08 (six years ago) link
I get the idea that big dumb shitty movies don't require absolute silence like you're watching The Passion of Joan of Arc but that's why you find an empty matinee (okay, not really an option in NY) or pirate that shit and watch it on Virgil's floor TV.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
The best moment I've had in a theater was from audience participation (a teenage girl stood up during the reveal of Orphan and yelled "Esther got titties!") but Matt complaining and farting would not be pleasant.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:41 (six years ago) link
audience reaction/participation can be amazing
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
but ime it's only been when the audience member/whole audience was completely focused on and in tune with the movie
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link
They're not the first ones to denounce complaints over cinema talking/texting as bourgie affectations - classic Hollywood audiences didn't sit in silence, neither do Bollywood audiences, etc. It's whatever, I still like to watch movies that way.
The woman w/ aspergers who got thrown out of a BFI screening of "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly" for laughing too loudly at comedic moments was a real bummer tho, fuck the narcs in that case.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 09:32 (six years ago) link
being loud/reacting to stuff on screen is fine, pulling out yr fuckin' cell phone in a dark theater is vile
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, May 1, 2018 9:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark
this explains a lot about your politics.
what if it's a couple out on a date with their kid at home w the babysitter and they want to periodically check on how things are going? what if it's somebody with a sick parent waiting to hear news from the hospital?
i guess fuck that, "Oh mr theater authority! They are cheating!"
you are in public ffs. if you want to watch movies in a hermetically isolated chamber you can do that.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link
how about maybe a new thread for this topic
― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I would post in it a lot
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link
okay, maybe not a new thread for this topic then
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link
what if it's somebody with a sick parent waiting to hear news from the hospital?
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link
There's a story on the latest This American Life about the class of kids who got kicked out of a screening of Schindler's List and became the media's face of black antisemetism
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link
Alamo Drafthouse and also politics of talking during the movies thread
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
Which CTH episode is this all stemming from?
― jmm, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link
what if it's a couple out on a date with their kid at home w the babysitter and they want to periodically check on how things are going?“periodically”? over the course of a two hour movie? what if it's somebody with a sick parent waiting to hear news from the hospital?they shouldn’t go to a movie theater, they should be pacing up and down the sidewalk smoking cigarettes & saying prayers for their sick parent while they wait for the phone call there’s a leap between good movie theater etiquette and being hermetically sealed, which is overrated anyway
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
― jmm, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:16 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
most recent one
― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
i haven't listened to it but generally people talking in theaters or looking at their phone are annoying. i don't narc on them but i will give them shit over it. equally being overly fucking sensitive to other people in the movie theatre is annoying too, an old guy gave my wife shit for looking at her phone during a fucking car commercial before the film and we both gave him an earful which i think will dissuade him from ever doing that again.
― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link
and i should've posted that in the other thread doh
― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link
Oh that guy was obviously wrong, nobody gives a shit about the ads, they haven’t even put all the lights down at that point. Once the lights are down tho it’s like, they do that for a reason, the reason is obvious, don’t be a cunt
― type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
talking & phones during commercials & even trailers is acceptable imo
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
especially trailers
― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz6iE-MJJmY
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
― jmm, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:16 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Episode 199, the Patreon show where they review Ready Player One. (Not the most recent one.)
― JRN, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link
How do we feel about the nu-left YouTubers?
One thing the left needs to do, I argued recently, is a better job of both engaging conservative arguments and using all forms of media effectively. I specifically mentioned YouTube, a dark realm that we have essentially ceded to the other side. YouTube is overflowing with videos from people like Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager (plus about a zillion miscellaneous reactionary ranters), but who is doing well-produced left-wing explanations of why all of these people are full of crap? Well, I can tell you who is doing them. ContraPoints is doing them. And she’s doing them very well indeed. She’s on a one-woman blitzkrieg against the YouTube right. She knows how to use the medium as well as anybody, and she’s found a brilliantly inventive and totally unique way to convey left political ideas.
Well, I can tell you who is doing them. ContraPoints is doing them. And she’s doing them very well indeed. She’s on a one-woman blitzkrieg against the YouTube right. She knows how to use the medium as well as anybody, and she’s found a brilliantly inventive and totally unique way to convey left political ideas.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/05/god-bless-contrapoints
― Simon H., Monday, 7 May 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
I like ContraPoints a lot. Not a huge fan of the vlog format but can't fight the future man.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 7 May 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link
yeah, the vlog format loses a lot of the convenience of pods for me (not great on transit or at work) but I'm glad there's finally a growing ecosystem to counter the chud glut. I did watch her Peterson video and thought it was hilarious and pretty thorough.
― Simon H., Monday, 7 May 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
Contra's doing excellent work. Nice that she's getting more attention.
― jmm, Monday, 7 May 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
Oliver North back in the news as well
― Google lobster hierarchies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 08:12 (five years ago) link
Seemed like the most appropriate place to stick this trash
Here are some things that you will hear when you sit down to dinner with the vanguard of the Intellectual Dark Web: There are fundamental biological differences between men and women. Free speech is under siege. Identity politics is a toxic ideology that is tearing American society apart. And we’re in a dangerous place if these ideas are considered “dark.”I was meeting with Sam Harris, a neuroscientist; Eric Weinstein, a mathematician and managing director of Thiel Capital; the commentator and comedian Dave Rubin; and their spouses in a Los Angeles restaurant to talk about how they were turned into heretics. A decade ago, they argued, when Donald Trump was still hosting “The Apprentice,” none of these observations would have been considered taboo.Today, people like them who dare venture into this “There Be Dragons” territory on the intellectual map have met with outrage and derision — even, or perhaps especially, from people who pride themselves on openness.It’s a pattern that has become common in our new era of That Which Cannot Be Said. And it is the reason the Intellectual Dark Web, a term coined half-jokingly by Mr. Weinstein, came to exist.
I was meeting with Sam Harris, a neuroscientist; Eric Weinstein, a mathematician and managing director of Thiel Capital; the commentator and comedian Dave Rubin; and their spouses in a Los Angeles restaurant to talk about how they were turned into heretics. A decade ago, they argued, when Donald Trump was still hosting “The Apprentice,” none of these observations would have been considered taboo.
Today, people like them who dare venture into this “There Be Dragons” territory on the intellectual map have met with outrage and derision — even, or perhaps especially, from people who pride themselves on openness.
It’s a pattern that has become common in our new era of That Which Cannot Be Said. And it is the reason the Intellectual Dark Web, a term coined half-jokingly by Mr. Weinstein, came to exist.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opinion/intellectual-dark-web.html
― Simon H., Tuesday, 8 May 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
It almost deserves it's own thread. Fucking hell, that was an exhausting read.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link
Yeah, even by the dim standards of the NYT op-ed page it's a real ordeal to get through. Klion's thread p much covers it for me
The piece is extremely bad, and Weiss and Bennet alone can’t be blamed for that. NYT assigned a Pulitzer-winning photojournalist who covered the Obama campaign to do a flattering spread of some of the biggest charlatans in the country. This is appalling, an affront to journalism.— David Klion (@DavidKlion) May 8, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: I got some hacker friends to help me find images from Bari Weiss' Dark Web. It's chilling, shocking, and appalling what these brave dissidents have had to resort to - the dangerous places they've been forced to go to - just to be heard. pic.twitter.com/lA6RiX8wAr— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 8, 2018
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link
Was Bari Weiss the one who complained about being called out for using tweets by bots? Or am I confusing the very bad people at NYT?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
If we want to take these fraudsters seriously (which doesn't mean taking them at their word, obviously) this is the central paragraph:
But they all share three distinct qualities. First, they are willing to disagree ferociously, but talk civilly, about nearly every meaningful subject: religion, abortion, immigration, the nature of consciousness. Second, in an age in which popular feelings about the way things ought to be often override facts about the way things actually are, each is determined to resist parroting what’s politically convenient. And third, some have paid for this commitment by being purged from institutions that have become increasingly hostile to unorthodox thought — and have found receptive audiences elsewhere.
I almost want to do a point by point demolition, but then I realized that it begins with describing qualities that they 'all' share, and then the third point is that 'some' have been purged. It's inconsistent on the most basic level of argument, just an absolute embarrassment.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
i look forward to matt christman screaming his way through the chapo nuking-from-space of this garbage
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
lmao everyone is dunking on this POS
Until now, I didn't realize how oppressed I am. I mean, sure, I get to write for the Times, am very well paid, and am invited to speak to audiences all over the world. But sometimes people criticize me and my ideas. Why, it's positively Stalinist! https://t.co/zj9yBuZ0WI— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) May 8, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link