the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Handy to know an approximate percentage for current U.K. gammon levels.


out of interest suzy were you referring to blaming civil servant percentage or the blame last lab gov mob?

gammon *hate* overpaid leave at four defined benefit pension civil servants ime.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

*gammon hates

Fizzles, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

The House of Commons has voted 316 to 221 to reject @UKLabour's motion on the #Windrush generation. pic.twitter.com/qVxvXq4b9E

— UK House of Commons (@HouseofCommons) May 2, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

meanwhile

The Conservatives have distributed a local election campaign leaflet urging voters to support them in Thursday’s poll because of “ISSUES WE’VE DONE” for “AREA NAME”.

The template, which was designed to be tailored to each local area, was printed and distributed in Ilford, east London, without any of the details having been filled in.

As a result, it encourages people to vote Conservative because of “WHAT WE’RE DOING/HAVE DONE FOR WARD/AREA NAME”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-local-election-2018-leaflet-tory-mistake-error-ilford-redbridge-a8333331.html

Simon H., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

yeah but .. labour gives you hepatitis !

https://order-order.com/2018/04/30/tory-candidate-labour-give-hepatitis/

(GF link : sorry .. )

mark e, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

sooner or later you end up voting for some form of hepatitis in the UK, it just cannot be helped!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

I demand more serious infections from our political masters

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

Follow Back Pro Ebola#

calzino, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

The Tories have legit brought back ricketts among children fwiw.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

no doubt they'd say there are complex and myriad reasons for the return of ricketts.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

seems legit

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

The legend Robbie Travers.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/smear-student-robbie-travers-racial-politics

Appols for Cohen but stopped clocks, etc

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

Blairite student Robbie Travers

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

it's handy when cockfarmers self-identify, saves time

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

xp Nimco Ali is a WEP member and has canvassed for one of her brothers, who is a Tory candidate somewhere.

suzy, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

Nimco – who joined Labour when Gordon Brown was leader – said: “I’m happy to back the Tory party to keep Corbyn and his Shadow Cabinet out of power.

relatable

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

Bloody champagne capitalists.

nashwan, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

Idly hoping for some sort of Green resurgence today

imago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link

good luck uk

Google lobster hierarchies (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:24 (five years ago) link

local authority elections are the most meaninglesstest sham in the general meaningless sham of democracy

which is a good thing, obv

voted for the councillors whose poster featured them crouching serious-faced pointing at a ballot paper on the ground

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

also resisted trolling my well-meaning friends who get all "rock the vote people died 4 u" on Facebook on election days

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

not enough imo

make our brave boys dead again

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

No militant left candidates around Lambeth :-(

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link

just realised we had a Green candidate who i completed ignored

The Green Party supported Remain and continue to believe that membership of the EU makes our future more hopeful and secure.

lol yeah good luck with that, bless you

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link

aw just realised a friend of mine is standing for them in another ward now i feel bad

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link

actually in a marginal for once (trafford) so this is interesting. there's a lot of disquiet about the council selling off land for gary neville's university vanity project

ogmor, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

As in I never got to talk to one socialist candidate - like there must be (voting later) one fucking communist around here.

I'll probably vote Green for accountability lol. This place is full of centrist Lab scum that have not been deselected.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:41 (five years ago) link

It will offer sport, media and business courses and will be near Old Trafford.

finally these under-represented subjects will be available to HE students

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

yeah i didn't check the credentials of my local Labour councillors and one of them who is a friend of a friend is pretty centrist iirc but i'm just all about getting the boot into the Lib Dems tbh

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link

i'm in one of their "Tories can't win here" zones so it's the right thing to do

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

short of literally physically putting the boot in which would be more satisfying obv but they didn't have anybody trolling the polling station at 7.30 this morning

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link

good luck uk

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:46 (five years ago) link

you get the feeling most local councillors trend centrist anyway but whether they've got Blair tattooed on their arse or not every seat they win will be an embiggenment of the Momentum agenda on the news cycle unless the BBC decides to pretend there haven't been elections at all if the results go well enough

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:47 (five years ago) link

peace out point at potholes every day

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link

meanwhile, in 'man the guillotines' news:

The invitation is meant to build bridges between the royal family and some of the most deprived parts of British society. Twelve-hundred handpicked members of the public – including inner-city youth workers from Coventry and community leaders from Bolton – will crowd inside the grounds of Windsor Castle to be among the first to see Prince Harry and Meghan Markle emerge as a married couple on Saturday 19 May.

But it seems the hospitality won’t extend far. Representatives of the royal family, which has an estimated net worth well in excess of £400m, have sent letters to these guests encouraging them to bring their own picnics, in a move described by one invitee as “unfathomable”.

Debrett’s guide to etiquette advises at least six canapés per person pre-lunch at a wedding, but guests have been encouraged in letters from lord lieutenants, the Queen’s representatives in the counties, “to bring a picnic lunch as it will not be possible to buy food and drink on site”.

seems like a good opportunity to take a picnic basket of rotten veg with which to pelt the newlyweds imo

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:51 (five years ago) link

anybody who turns up this shit is a stooge who doesn't deserve to be fed

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link

Booting Lib Dems is great but I didn't get an opportunity (unlike the General election with all of their Remainer bullshit talk). They didn't show up around here.

Polling I've seen indicate Labour will do well but perhaps not well enough to scare the shit out of the Tories. Anyone seen any different? Sadly not that exciting. xps

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link

next-level pointing there, transitioning into touching

he's got my vote

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

he's just come along and taken the pointing game to the next level. horizontal! genius

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link

he's disrupting the pointing industry

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:57 (five years ago) link

local councillors HATE him! learn his one weird trick to dominate the pages of the local press

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:58 (five years ago) link

NV: have you found yourself becoming harder left/more militant recently? I dont recall you being so strident. (It a good thing. Not criticising)

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

I get to vote in a celebrity polling station, since Corbyn became leader, so a camera crew and few photographers kicking about. And one Labour person - not much point in anyone from any other party showing up round here tbh.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

One of the many stupid fallacies pedalled by Labour members of all stripes is that voters (and I mean the minority who actually vote in local elections) care about whether their local candidates are centrist or 'moderate' or socialist or whatever. They'll vote according to which party they feel impelled to vote for at national level, driven at least in part by a load of factors that local councillors can't really influence in any case.

There are exceptions to this - Haringey for example, and Kensington & Chelsea is going to be a unique circumstance - but most people will just vote for whoever is wearing the appropriately coloured rosette.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:12 (five years ago) link

dowd i don't know. i don't think so - i've been somewhere on the Marxian end of the left since I was a teenager, really. i might be getting grumpier and more vocal about it as the prospect of rescuing some kind of civilization from an increasingly atomized, privatized society gets more remote but i think it largely depends on what kind of month i'm having. plus sometimes it's just devilment for fun.

i'm v shortly hopefully taking voluntary redundancy as part of a huge swathe of potential lay-offs and seeing the effect that's having on people less lucky than me might be hyping me up a bit at the moment

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link

There are exceptions to this - Haringey for example, and Kensington & Chelsea is going to be a unique circumstance - but most people will just vote for whoever is wearing the appropriately coloured rosette.

exactly, hence the meaninglessness

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

Really sorry to hear that NV

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

for me it's liberating tbh. unfortunately not for many of my colleagues.

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link


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