the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

A 76-year-old man who has lived in Bromley for 40 years told The Independent he was “shocked” to be turned away because he did not have a bank card or passport. “This is a nonsense scheme,” Peter White added.

lol! I think they might not be happy about this type of thing happening re: Voter ID trails

Voter ID trials, even.

I loved that Tory trolling Faisal Rashid tweet where he encourages Labour voters to "vote early and vote often". Don't worry pal, we'll make every one of those 2nd + 3rd votes count.

A friend's post of Facebook, which may be useful to our foreign cousins (and us, lbh)

** Your regular polling station etiquette reminder/re-post from previous local elections, as these questions have popped up in several places today and might be helpful to others. **

- There are no restrictions on campaigning on or near polling day in the BUT campaigning is not permitted inside polling stations. If you see it happening, report it to the polling station staff. Edited to add: This includes the wearing of campaign t-shirts and rosettes etc.

- There may be someone from a political party outside your polling station asking you for the number on your polling card. These folk are called tellers - I've volunteered as one for the Labour party in the past. We used this info to make sure we are only knocking on the doors of those who haven't already voted and so not wasting our time - or yours! But you don’t need to share this info.

- Can you take photos inside the polling station? Can you just not, says the Electoral Commission. But if you insist on taking a sneaky selfie of you exercising your right to vote, make sure it's really intimate and shows just you, your face and definitely nothing else like your unique ballot paper reference number or someone else's face and their ballot paper. But really, it's best to just wait until you are outside.

- Pen or pencil? UGH NOBODY IS GOING TO TAMPER WITH YOUR VOTE. I've worked as a counter, and a scruntineer. Nobody is going to be able to alter your vote once it's been placed in the ballot box. But it if makes you feel happier to use a pen - FINE.

We used this info to make sure we are only knocking on the doors of those who haven't already voted and so not wasting our time - or yours!

lol great system you got there lads - Labour canvassers came and banged on our door after I'd already voted and given my address to the teller, and I'm the only person registered to vote in this house.

man, #usepens almost counts as a fond memory these days.

This is why you got relegated tbh https://t.co/8xfjGY4u9R

— Congolesa “Fire @Jack” Rice (@judeinlondon2) May 3, 2018

Pallion (Sunderland) result:

LDem: 60.1% (+57.0)
Lab: 29.4% (-18.4)
Con: 7.3% (-7.0)
Grn: 3.1% (-1.7)

LDem GAIN.

No UKIP (-30.1) as prev.

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) May 3, 2018

Turnout 0.05%

innit

Liden, Eldene & Park South (Swindon) result:

Lab: 44.2% (+9.3)
Con: 41.1% (+12.3)
UKIP: 7.0% (-21.4)
LDem: 4.7% (+1.4)
Grn: 2.9% (-1.7)

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) May 3, 2018

magic fucking roundabout and 3 sided stadium has gone red.

sorry I didn't even check if that is the bit where the County Ground is and might be mixing the 3 side thing up with the Kassam!

aren't local elections just so riveting!

famous people from Nuneaton: Julian Alsop, footballer.Stuart Attwell, Premier League referee.

say no more, Shiteaton more like.

One of the many stupid fallacies pedalled by Labour members of all stripes is that voters (and I mean the minority who actually vote in local elections) care about whether their local candidates are centrist or 'moderate' or socialist or whatever. They'll vote according to which party they feel impelled to vote for at national level, driven at least in part by a load of factors that local councillors can't really influence in any case.

There are exceptions to this - Haringey for example, and Kensington & Chelsea is going to be a unique circumstance - but most people will just vote for whoever is wearing the appropriately coloured rosette.

things i just learned: noodle vague is named after a place next to nuneaton that just fucked itself over

Share changes of the results we have so far:

Con: +9.0
Lab: +4.1
LDem: +3.8
Grn: +2.9
UKIP: -19.3

Swing to Tories.

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) May 4, 2018

Not really Britain Elects tbh. Some places in England, basically.

There are exceptions to this - Haringey for example, and Kensington & Chelsea is going to be a unique circumstance - but most people will just vote for whoever is wearing the appropriately coloured rosette.

Hmm, or maybe K&C might just not be an exception after all...

I see Ranjit Banwait (Labour Derby council leader) has lost his seat to UKIP after occasional RT guest, K Livingstone apologist and f/t clown -Derby MP- Chris Williamsom said: "It's the easiest period to campaign for Labour in my entire life". I keep saying that guy needs to be jettisoned before a general election is called.

fun fact: I've never knowingly been to the place that my paternal family shares a name with.

No reason to go there now, clearly.

this is a total outlier as well I think, looks like nationwide UKIP vote has cratered even more and they have lost 92 councilors so far. Chris needs to start thinking about that George Galloway type career path he is obviously destined for.

starting to experience a slight intensification of 'sheesh maybe Labour need to make some changes' thoughts, not limited to williamson, tbh

nb not policy changes but personnel ones

hmm

xyzzzz talk me out of this in your customary charming way

welcome to ILX, Chukka - but get yr own account ffs!

can i just say

WTF LIB DEM PEOPLE?

too answer my own wtf obviously they've consistently done better at local gov level and they are the hardest working pothole-pointers in showbusiness so this is probably a reversion to the mean

they've hoovered up the Remain normcore massive, not really anything surprising there

i thought they were the Remain normcore massive

Lib Dems lost a shitload of seats last time; it’s not really surprising they’ve taken some back. They tend to do well in local campaigns as well. They also had a pact with the Greens in some places.

Labour deserved to lose Barnet, not sorry to say.

love that you can accurately deduce the joke that everyone made without even having to check:

https://i.imgur.com/Q1JgtCc.png

The swings mean little without news on turnout changes - If people who previously voted for UKIP decide to stay home and wait for multicultural death, that's one thing, if they're all still in the game but some of them believe* that the Labour party can protect their interests and also come down hard on Foreigners, that's another.

* or more importantly can be proposed to believe by legitimate concerners

Would love to hear some interviewed going "well I voted UKIP last time and I was a bit at sea, but I hear Labour are anti-semitic now so that gave them the lead"

perhaps if racist UKIP voters had a 6 tests type scrutiny for what makes a proper racist then Labour might fall a bit short, but obviously not totally.

multicultural death is the name of my hip-hop/metalcore collective

g nev will be distressed to see labour and greens have made gains in trafford

xp wasn’t this essentially that yougov question about the public perception of the party positions on immigration the other day?

BBC news website in a bit of a nihilistic mood this morning

https://i.imgur.com/wu5z4UZ.jpg

A lot of my-age Labour voters stayed home; anecdotally, lots of people with kids and mortgages in London sitting on their hands and doing more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger social media posts, lots of Labour councils in London pursuing PFI-style affordable housing schemes and alienating everyone from the softies to the leftmost who seemed to be giving votes to Greens, FPBE arseholes (generally the type most relaxed about Blairites making ‘affordable’ housing schemes) voting LibDem. Six weeks of OTT anti-semitism news stories won’t have helped (there are issues, but not leading-story at least three days a week issues).

Since the Kipper vote has clearly come home to Tories, some Brexit tweaking on Labour’s part is clearly necessary - I think they are trying to go very slowly towards a softer Brexit, so as not to spook Brexit voters who are not UKIP.

One of the many stupid fallacies pedalled by Labour members of all stripes is that voters (and I mean the minority who actually vote in local elections) care about whether their local candidates are centrist or 'moderate' or socialist or whatever. They'll vote according to which party they feel impelled to vote for at national level, driven at least in part by a load of factors that local councillors can't really influence in any case.

The minority who care about the issues in specific ways to their local area in enough detail to want to vote - to the extent that if a council is putting a converting part of a library into a fucking gym - they'd be angry enough to vote for someone else who is at least saying 'stop that'.

And yes there are limitations but you read the headlines about Barnet's outsource of its functions to Capita or Derby's plan to run their entire library service to volunteers and think there are still things that council can either control or at least be seen to be vocal about - and what I'm seeing from tonight is that there is too much centrist scum at Labour council level. Lot of do nothings that you wouldn't want to vote for.

A lot of work to do. xp

starting to experience a slight intensification of 'sheesh maybe Labour need to make some changes' thoughts, not limited to williamson, tbh

nb not policy changes but personnel ones

hmm

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xyzzzz talk me out of this in your customary charming way

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Try this for charm? Its not on me to put a single nanosecond of my life to talk out priviledged, entitled thrash out of the way they think or the poor choices they make in life. Talk to a therapist or your mum instead.

UKIP has so far lost 92 seats of the 94 it was defending.

But he said it was "not all over" for the Eurosceptic party.

"Think of the Black Death in the Middles Ages," said Mr Oakley.

"It comes along, it causes disruption and then it goes dormant - that is what we are going to do."

UKIP like a hibernating contagion says man with symptoms of hepatitis.

jesus man who shat in your weetabix

Is that beeb screen shot for real?

like I know you've had it rough of late so yknow leeway but cmon queensbury rules here

Yes, bbc shot is real - it was referencing the bizarre tweet by the kipper quoted by calzino above

Black Death. pic.twitter.com/ZQP6dWiZLN

— Paul Oakley UKIP (@PaulJamesOakley) May 4, 2018

Oh shit I see it now

Pretty sure Black Death* would win an ILX poll of those options.

*Theresa May's hip-hop/metalcore collective

(ty Camaraderie)