1976 Oscar Nominees

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I've always found TD's madonna/whore thing a tad problematic (Schrader's, not Bickle's).

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah it's not a perfect script, but it seems strikingly original in a way that few films are (although Schrader sort of mined it again and again so yeah) and great directing, great acting, and a great score really put it over the top for me. And one of the all time headfuck endings.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 24 May 2009 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, really, all Oscar years should have me reluctantly casting Taxi Driver and Network into the runner up positions.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"Network." I think even Sidney Lumet drew breaths filming this shit.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2009 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I cast the obvious vote for Taxi Driver, but ATPM has to be one of the decade's strongest runners-up--fantastic film. (I guess whichever you choose as the lesser of Nashville/Cuckoo's Nest from the previous year would be its equal; ditto Godfather II/Chinatown/The Conversation from '74.) I'm not a fan of Network, and Rocky's Rocky; haven't seen Bound for Glory.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

no, the '75 pair is Nashville & Barry Lyndon.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

If you want you extend the grouping to include Barry Lyndon, sure--I wouldn't, but many would. I wouldn't eliminate Cuckoo's Nest, though. (I'd probably go with Jaws after Nashville anyway...)

clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Save it for the inevitable '75 poll. (Which is also a pretty miraculous lineup excepting, maybe, the winner if you, like me, read the book first.)

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i need to put Bound for Glory on my too see list.

Network sorta dissapointed me after all the good Lumet shit i'd seen before, putting in a vote for Taxi Driver.

Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted for Rocky bcz apparently I forgot how to read the word NETWORK. ;_;

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Network is the only Lumet movie I like outside of The Wiz. Even 12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

at that point i thought Dog Day Afternoon was the best movie ever. (it's definetely among the best) though ranking movies seems even more useless than ranking records. dunno why.

Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you seen Prince of the City, tho? Maybe best American dirty-cop movie ever.

xp

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

(I'm pretty sure even Lumet wouldn't defend The Wiz, you perv)

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

someone with time give me a couple of more Hal Ashby recommendations, i mean are there any more after Bound for Glory, Harold and Maude, Being There and The Last Detail?

Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Judging the evidence on display in his movies, Lumet wouldn't know a good movie it if hit him in the eye. (And in any case, Quincy Jones is the auteur behind The Wiz, not Lumet.) Haven't seen Prince of the City tho.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Treat Williams suuuuuuucks.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

oh E, you and bad movies.

Ludo: Shampoo, and Coming Home for the acting.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

thx.

Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

All of these are crappy to varying degrees save for Bound for Glory which I haven't seen. So I'm voting for it cuz it has the potential to be great.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, this lineup does sort of approach the apotheosis of new hollywood, isn't it.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

er, doesn't it

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It does indeed. Also, this was the year of Hitchcock's last film, Family Plot which, prolly needless to say, I'll take over any of these.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Family Plot is great too. I don't see why I can't have both that AND Taxi Driver/Carrie/Assault on Precinct 13/et al.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I've always been fascinated by the perfect symmetry of Ashby's '70s career: the six films mentioned above, plus The Landlord--seven for seven, without a single misstep. Obviously there's some variance in quality among them, but most every other major director of the era had at least one high-profile debacle on his resume: [i]1941, Quintet, New York, New York, Sorcerer, etc. (And the three exceptions that come to mind--Coppola, Kubrick, and Lucas--directed fewer than 10 films between them.) Ashby basically emerges as the secret hero of A Decade Under the Influence, Ted Demme's documentary on American film in the '70s.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not as crazy about Shampoo as I used to be, and I haven't seen The Landlord, but Ashby had a helluva streak.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

taxi driver for me

鬼の手 (Edward III), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

network

macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

New York, New York is not a debacle. Jesus you people have awful taste.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course I like Sorcerer better than Coming Home so maybe I'm the one with the problem.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

TAXI DRIVER, c'mon!

have the lime of your life, heyyyyyy (Tape Store), Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Alex otm re NYNY! Must be that time of year. ;)

Scorsese perfected Taxi Driver with its superior remake, The King of Comedy.

12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.

Even Armond White, your colleague in the Hate Lumet Treehouse, sees value in his putting great acting on the screen, as in Long Day's Journey into Night. If de Palma ever manages it, do give a call.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 11:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"Scorsese perfected Taxi Driver with its superior remake, The King of Comedy."

Wowthisisgettingeerie. ;)

Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw the Hill recently. Even Lumet haters might really like that one.

Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Def TaxiDriver.

I GOTTA BRAKE FREEEEE (stevienixed), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

If de Palma ever manages it, do give a call.

No.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Which is to say, it's impossible for me to call you in 1976, when De Palma put at least four of them in just one film.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Ooooh burn. That's kind of DePalma's exception though. I'd agree with Morbs that acting is an afterthought in a lot of his movies (which I often love.)

Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link

No argument from me there. I do think the performances typically work for his films just fine.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Spacek and Laurie -- Amy Irving is great in that? in a Fast Times at Ridgemont High kind of way?

No, I mean, you know, great, as in Jason Robards as Jamie Tyrone great. (an Oscar winner in '76 as Ben Bradlee, to steer back on topic.)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

(I also can't imagine you really really could be calling Betty Buckley's efficient performance as the friggin' gym teacher great. Oh, you are a card.)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

A poll of the '76 acting nominees would be fab: every nominee came from Network anyway. I think it's still the only movie to earn three acting Oscars.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Efficient hardly describes her cautiously optimistic chat with Spacek at her prom table.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

My second-favorite 1976 de Palma-directed performance is probably Genevieve Bujold in Obsession. Good year for him.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Bujold was great in Coma. What ever happened to her?

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Bujold is good in Obsession, but the movie is the one true bummer in that mid-70s spread.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless you are humorless and go for that type of thing.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

you know me!

oh, if you take The Fury as pure burlesque, your love is slightly fathomable. :)

Bujold hit a new peak w/ Croney in Dead Ringers.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

How I'd have voted on the '76 acting awards: De Niro, Spacek, Robards, Laurie.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty IMDB of me, but it's that kinda year.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

KJB, I read the Agatha Christie book around the time Murder on the Orient Express came out, and the only director who would've been able to make that work in '74 might've been Mel Brooks. (hence the MAD parody is one I still remember)

you are such a doctrinaire auteurist, you old-fashioned boy. ;)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

(also Amadeus is one of the worst Forman movies I've ever seen; Hair is better)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

xp kjb: whom do you consider a stylistic genius?

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Well the burden of proof's on you there.

KJB, I read the Agatha Christie book around the time Murder on the Orient Express came out, and the only director who would've been able to make that work in '74 might've been Mel Brooks.

Now that would've been worth seeing!

you are such a doctrinaire auteurist, you old-fashioned boy. ;)

It's true. But then there's Curse of the Cat People, The Seventh Victim, Xanadu, The Apple, Marci X, Romy and Michele's High School Reunion, Crazy in Alabama, Twilight, The Gay Deceivers, Joan Crawford, Adrian, etc.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, sometimes I exaggerate for effect with you Morbs, but no fucking way Hair is better than Across the Universe (which i haven't seen but looks like ass), much less Amadeus.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh look, there are results.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

That's odd. How come there wasn't one of those automatic "poll results are in" posts?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 8 June 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

All the President's Men over Network, which is no more reactionary and a lot more civilized than Taxi Fucking Driver

benbbag, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link

Even 12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.

― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:49 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It may be a tribute to Lumet that you don't notice how much more than that it is

benbbag, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Showed Network to a crowd last night and it was surprisingly well received.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

Didn't hurt that the crowd was very full of the core "they don't make them like that anymore" demo.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

Many bathroom breaks during Beatrice Straight's monologue?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

Every good word in the English language is in that script.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

"wainscoting"?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

Crusty ... but benign.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

Owen Roizman's nomination doesn't make a lick of sense tho.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

Two previous nominations... and got one later for Tootsie. They just liked him.

He did the urban grime thing well, as in French Connection and Pelham 123.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link

Word is that cinematography guild was the most insular boys club backscratching branch in that era.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

Didn't hurt that the crowd was very full of the core "they don't make them like that anymore" demo.

Good news for your audience: Hollywood never stopped making plenty of shrill tirades on "what's the matter with society."

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

well Wexler won in '76 for Bound for Glory, gotta give em credit for that. xp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

Every good word in the English language is in that script.

― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.

"cocksmanship"

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

Nine years later, I would change my vote from Taxi Driver to All the President's Men.

clemenza, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

It's cool, I just changed my vote from All the President's Men back to Network and now the two are tied for second place!

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link

It's been a busy day.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

wd now write in Mikey and Nicky

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link

I wasn't here 9 years ago, but Taxi Driver is still the best and Network still sucks.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

were there ever consecutive Best Actress winners who played soulless villains besides Louise Fletcher and Dunaway?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link

Closest case I could determine was Natalie Portman in Black Swan and Streep's Margaret Thatcher.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 February 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

Depends on what you think about Katherine Hepburn in On Golden Pond and Meryl Streep in Sophie's Choice

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

Bette Davis '38/Vivien Leigh '39? Maybe they weren't entirely soulless.

WilliamC, Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

I wasn't here 9 years ago, but Network is still the best and Taxi Driver still sucks.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

you can deconstruct Scarlett O'Hara myriad ways, but she is clearly the heroine of GWTW

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link

(and so is BD in Jezebel from what i can recall)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link

btw I have come to the realization that Holden was about 18 months older than I am now when they shot Network, and no one yet has impugned my cocksmanship.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

Date more loquacious programming directors with father complexes.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

Basically X agrees

Just curious, which of these should've won against ROCKY?

— Eric Henderson (@ephender) February 14, 2024

Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link


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