Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

It almost deserves it's own thread. Fucking hell, that was an exhausting read.

Yeah, even by the dim standards of the NYT op-ed page it's a real ordeal to get through. Klion's thread p much covers it for me

The piece is extremely bad, and Weiss and Bennet alone can’t be blamed for that. NYT assigned a Pulitzer-winning photojournalist who covered the Obama campaign to do a flattering spread of some of the biggest charlatans in the country. This is appalling, an affront to journalism.

— David Klion (@DavidKlion) May 8, 2018

EXCLUSIVE: I got some hacker friends to help me find images from Bari Weiss' Dark Web. It's chilling, shocking, and appalling what these brave dissidents have had to resort to - the dangerous places they've been forced to go to - just to be heard. pic.twitter.com/lA6RiX8wAr

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 8, 2018

Was Bari Weiss the one who complained about being called out for using tweets by bots? Or am I confusing the very bad people at NYT?

If we want to take these fraudsters seriously (which doesn't mean taking them at their word, obviously) this is the central paragraph:

But they all share three distinct qualities. First, they are willing to disagree ferociously, but talk civilly, about nearly every meaningful subject: religion, abortion, immigration, the nature of consciousness. Second, in an age in which popular feelings about the way things ought to be often override facts about the way things actually are, each is determined to resist parroting what’s politically convenient. And third, some have paid for this commitment by being purged from institutions that have become increasingly hostile to unorthodox thought — and have found receptive audiences elsewhere.

I almost want to do a point by point demolition, but then I realized that it begins with describing qualities that they 'all' share, and then the third point is that 'some' have been purged. It's inconsistent on the most basic level of argument, just an absolute embarrassment.

i look forward to matt christman screaming his way through the chapo nuking-from-space of this garbage

lmao everyone is dunking on this POS

Until now, I didn't realize how oppressed I am. I mean, sure, I get to write for the Times, am very well paid, and am invited to speak to audiences all over the world. But sometimes people criticize me and my ideas. Why, it's positively Stalinist! https://t.co/zj9yBuZ0WI

— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) May 8, 2018

lollllll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFELNIpeTjY

comedian Dave Rubin

i just

anyone who gives the NYT any money needs to reconsider

And yet, when Ms. Owens and Charlie Kirk, the executive director of Turning Point USA, met last week with Mr. West at the Southern California Institute of Architecture, just outside of the frame — in fact, avoiding the photographers — was Mr. Weinstein. He attended both that meeting and a one-on-one the next day for several hours at the mogul’s request. Mr. Weinstein, who can’t name two of Mr. West’s songs, [...]

'Well, there's 'Jesus Walks', obviously. And then you got your 'N***as in'... n***as in.. hmm, now where were those n***as?'

is that the Evergreen guy?

ya

i haven't read the weiss piece and i don't think i will. i have a very specific and detailed hatred of everyone involved, i don't need this shit.

Attn Simon:

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-36-maplewashinglooking-behind-canadas-progressive-veneer

Episode 36: Maplewashing — Looking Behind Canada’s Progressive Veneer

May 9, 2018

For decades, Canada has been a go-to point of reference for American progressives as a country the United States can and should strive to be. And while there are many parts about Canadian society that are measurably preferable, leftists in Canada find their country's glossy, socialist paradise image to be overblown and often a barrier to meaningful change.

This episode examines this tension, the reality versus perception, what we can learn from each other, and the common and existential thread we share of white settler-colonialism.

With guests Eriel Tchekwie Deranger of Indigenous Climate Action and writer Luke Savage.

lmao I downloaded that to my phone like two hours ago, will listen on the commute tomorrow

so far it's very easy to read every article from Resistancehole in Felix's lib-mocking voice

Barbara Ehrenreich, fuck yeah

good get!

I was amused to learn they cut most of Felix's audio from when he appeared on one of the Pod Save America guys' shows in LA. I did listen to that some time ago and I was surprised at how tame it was...

Chapo Trap House is a great name for this podcast because just hearing that name with no other information at all you know it's lib white guys

dead-on apart from the part about libs

and white guys

they have an asian male AND a woman, sir

does she have a beard because I'm looking through gis and

anyway

noted dsa activist and bearded lady amber a'lee frost

anyway

But it was the three white guys who chose the name, right? ;)

anyway

it's culturally appropriative of drug kingpins

wait, I checked and they're right

https://addtext.com/X2V2ijq?_loc=photo_next_modal_share

anyway

https://ibb.co/cTRWgJ

lol, hotlinking is not working for me today

anyway

you can expect a fresh round of "who do these assholes think they are?!" takes when they hit 100k on Patreon, which will be in the near future

(I think they've made more than enough money as it is, #BlackWolfFeed forever)

I like that they included a "Come to Amber's workshop on canvassing" spot recently. I wish there was more of that and less America the Book plugging

you can expect a fresh round of "who do these assholes think they are?!" takes when they hit 100k on Patreon, which will be in the near future

(I think they've made more than enough money as it is, #BlackWolfFeed forever)

Black Wolves must be hunted down

This was a great ep btw, except the part when Ehrenreich was like “mammograms and colonoscopies don’t prevent disease” gtfooooooo

I haven't read her book yet but it sounds like it works more as a meditation on our societal attitudes toward health and death than as sound analysis of specific procedures and treatments.

iirc there is some dispute over the effectiveness of mammograms?

There is dispute over how broadly and at what age mammograms and colonoscopies should be recommended. I think there is no dispute over whether they prevent disease, but some dispute (at least in the colonoscopy case, which I know about a little more) about whether a broadened testing regime leads people to get surgeries to remove slow-growing tumors they could have just unknowingly lived with for the rest of their life, and out of every 1000 surgeries, especially with older patients, you're gonna have some bad outcomes. But I wouldn't say they "don't prevent disease," just that there are health costs in addition to the health benefits.

apparently quite a lot of women get false positives on mammograms and end up getting cancer treatment they don't need. so there is some dispute as to how early and how often women should get them when you weigh up the benefits of early detection vs these false positives.

there will be some article on the NYT or similar about it if you have a google

there's also the whole "breast cancer industry" thing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/health/study-adds-new-doubts-about-value-of-mammograms.html

ah word

We have toppled a king. https://t.co/wbjJYFfOaC pic.twitter.com/rBXS74Trcl

— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) May 23, 2018

oh hey it's Adam Conover on Citations Needed

In "Ep. 38: The Media’s Bogus Generation Obsession" we discuss how the torrent of hacky "Millennials do X" and "Boomers do Y" stories aren't just stupid, but actually work to obscure discussions of inequality and racism. With guest @adamconover. https://t.co/YACeYIdjdX

— Citations Needed (@CitationsPod) May 23, 2018

The book excerpt they read on the show wasn't bad, although it didn't feel particularly Chapo-esque in style either (maybe because it was the Virgil and Brendan chapter).

I admit I chuckled at the groany puns

Highly recommend this week’s Trillbilly Workers Party for Tom’s voting story about 20 mins in