marketing of masculinity

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so what you're saying is that making fun of this aesthetic is outdated and stale

na (NA), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

that, too

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

we might be stuck with it, it's like all my peers who locked their tastes in back in 1999 and everything that was cool then will forever be cool

there are people who are locked into being rustic axe man. gonna be buying new and refurbished rustic axes until they die

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

they should be sharpening their old rustic axes, ideally with an axe stone while standing in the woods with no shirt

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

everything i learned about masculinity i learned from God of War on PS4, during the last week

https://i.imgur.com/KlMaKRK.jpg

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

It's like the 1890s has taken a permanent spot at the nostalgia table for manly shaving goods and hatchets, just like the 1950s won't let go of theme diners.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

gonna be buying new and refurbished rustic axes until they die
LOL

long time ago i made this wall hanging thing with an ax and my roommate at the time thought i was nuts. i guess i sort of was. i painted the handle bright red.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

Liftoff

Get on, drink up, and tune out.

When you’re packing for a trip, staying organized and prepared will let you enjoy the sailing, skiing, or sun much more. Long train and plane rides are easy when you’ve got everything you need in one place. They’re also a great time to do some trip planning instead of spending your time digging around through your suitcase for headphones that you “could swear I have in here somewhere.”

This box has customizations – and you can upgrade to a premium leather version!

Polished

Keep yourself in top shape, from your head to your wingtips.

Shining up your shoes to add a little spring to your step goes back to the 18th and 19th centuries. It became a ritual that many men passed down to their sons as a rite of passage. When your shoes are shined up, it shows that you take care of yourself, right down to the smallest details. Line of Trade worked with an Italian shoe-care master to put together everything you need in a shoe shine kit, from the polish to the buffing brushes. It’s time to add yourself to a long line of stylish guys with great looking kicks.

Brew

You know what’s even better than drinking beer? Drinking beer that you brewed yourself.

All you need is a pot, a stove, a few weeks worth of patience, and one of these custom-made one-gallon homebrew kits. The one-gallon size is perfect for learning the ropes, since it’s small enough that you don’t need any complicated setups or too much time, so it’s especially user-friendly. All you need to worry about is what to sip on until your batch is done.

Canteen

Be the envy of the break room.

From opening your brown bag in elementary school to find some fruit snacks (and possibly an embarrassing note from mom), to using that hour for a midday stroll between your meetings, lunch has always been a welcomed break. Now that you’ve grown up a bit, swap the paper for a waxed canvas and leather bag. While you’re at it, show off your low carbon footprint with reusable stainless steel boxes and top it all off with your chef-quality condiments.

omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

Puffin got it. Wtf.

https://i.imgur.com/tzC96C0.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

hmm, that's one use for it, i guess. i was thinking it could be used to improve the presentation of manly pubes - squeeze up a lock of pubes apart from the others, as if to say "there is an abundance of pubes, here is but a sample"

but could be used for keys as well

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

Like, these types of sets are only ever bought to give as gifts right? I can't imagine an adult buying it for themselves.

Yerac, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

OK, let me turn my wtf away from the keyring for a moment and focus it on Karl Malone.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

hey man i'm just brainstorming

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

pubestorming, more like.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

pube management is an emerging market, and when it finally through to the mainstream there will probably be cured wood hair ties, along with hand-vacs with fine leather grips to help clean it all up

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

I thought pube management had peaked as a masculinity market, but no... the nice trimmer I bought for my face now has a body hair version you can buy

imo nose hair trimmer technology is due for a boost

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

The new OneBlade Face + Body comes with a click-on skin guard. Perfect for sensitive areas that need extra protection, like underarms and yeah, down there too.

accompanied by the requisite picture of a shirtless man peering down the front of his boxer shorts

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

I think I have literally never pulled back the waistband of my boxers and peered down my junk the way it is done in those stock photos

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

"down there" is among the prissiest things sayable btw

let's not talk about the gincident (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

there's probably a marketing angle that doesn't get technical or too prissy

"Safely trim your junk with our trimmer."

maybe they could promise never to show you stock photos of men peering down shorts and a guarantee they'll never have an ad showing kiwi fruit

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

pubescaping is the hardest of labours that i perform but one that is so necessary every week that i anticipated a solution to it with bated breath

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

anticipate*

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

i like that keychain tbh

gbx, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

wouldnt a real man, like, learn how to work metal and make this themselves?

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

Keychain seems like it could be a little pokey.

pplains, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

the duluth trading company breaks my spirit

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

file this under my favorite thing I've ever seen pic.twitter.com/qlkcr2C1g8

— a (@annkatsha) May 9, 2018

j., Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pNGQPjk.jpg

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

An intereeting thing i noticed in Japan is how while yes, there wre beauty products marketed to men, its not as easy to distinguish the two as it is here

Like stateside, there's the weird insertion of like fucking bears or tigers or guns or camo pic.twitter.com/LNBOhU6e9I

— k 👍Ⓕ wagata (@TeethBeetles) May 28, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

The label of my Ultra-Moist Baby-Soft Exfoliation Gel (specially formulated for sensitive skin) features a bear wearing camo pointing a gun at a tiger.

and she could see an earmuff factory (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

the american version of the same product

https://i.imgur.com/kUCSavO.jpg

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

ya a lot of japanese men take their beauty routine extremely serious, just like women do

beauty standards in east asia for east asian men in general are basically to look as feminine as possible without actually wearing a dress and having shoulder-length hair (except for the 80s/visual kei), from a western standpoint

look at the models to get a perfect idea

at least in japan, the way they show their masculinity/gender is by speaking a particular way and using specific words

F# A# (∞), Monday, 28 May 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

at least in japan, the way they show their masculinity/gender is by speaking a particular way and using specific words

I'll never forget a story my junior high Latin teacher told us about being stationed in Japan in the 1950s - the soldiers all learned Japanese from the women they hung out with, so their pronounciation and vocal mannerisms were seen as hilariously feminine by the local dudes.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

Exactly

The same thing happens now when a western guy ends up learning Japanese from his wife/girlfriend

Funnily enough, the Japanese books teach is formal Japanese, which is more like how women speak

So all the western men end up sounding feminine, which a lot of women over there think is cute and funny

And when you tell western guys that their initial reaction is to panic lol

F# A# (∞), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

Someone should hire Sonny Chiba to do a series of Japanese language tapes. Solve this problem at a stroke.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

beauty standards in east asia for east asian men in general are basically to look as feminine as possible

if everyone's into skin care, then wouldn't it not be feminine but just neutral?

the japanese perspective has to be: in the US, it's weird, women take care of their skin and men look like they're dried out walking dandruff, right?

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

Men in the US generally do have a walking dandruff vibe going on. It's patriotic to just let yourself go. Or maybe they think ranch dressing moisturizes from the inside.

Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

*drops cup of ranch I'm slurping*

wait it doesn't?!

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

going to go out on a limb and say that black men are better about it, lest they get mocked for being ashy

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

XPs Can you give any kind of equivalent examples of the masculine/feminine vocabulary/way of talking? Or is it just like 'dude what up' vs 'oh my god!! how have you beeeen I can't believe it!!!'

nb I don't believe that most people actually fall into these stereotypes

kinder, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

xpost, yeah I am mostly talking about white men in the US, mostly outside of the major cities.

Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

Although my brothers are half asian and they are flaky, cargo shorts wearing mofos.

Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

...who put ranch dressing on everything.

Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

my dudes

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

I just had to google to see if they made a skin product with ranch dressing formula yet. I could only find a youtube "comedy" bit on using it as a moisturizer and teeth whitener.

Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

XPs Can you give any kind of equivalent examples of the masculine/feminine vocabulary/way of talking? Or is it just like 'dude what up' vs 'oh my god!! how have you beeeen I can't believe it!!!'

nb I don't believe that most people actually fall into these stereotypes

― kinder, Monday, May 28, 2018 2:44 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hm, of course there is the "what's up" and "dude"

i was specifically referring to phrases that only men say, personal pronouns the speaker uses depending on their gender, and different verb conjugations for male and female speaker -- but there are also "neutral" ways to say things, but that sometimes falls under the "formal" category

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

male and female speakers*

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link

this also reminds me that colombian men don't use the informal you when talking to other men, because if they do, it sounds like they are gay or in some intimate relationship

so they only use the formal you

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

“My dad has an infant dick” pic.twitter.com/2fSdK3gFCb

— jasen comstock (@JasenComstock) May 30, 2018

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link


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