no, the '75 pair is Nashville & Barry Lyndon.
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
If you want you extend the grouping to include Barry Lyndon, sure--I wouldn't, but many would. I wouldn't eliminate Cuckoo's Nest, though. (I'd probably go with Jaws after Nashville anyway...)
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Save it for the inevitable '75 poll. (Which is also a pretty miraculous lineup excepting, maybe, the winner if you, like me, read the book first.)
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i need to put Bound for Glory on my too see list.
Network sorta dissapointed me after all the good Lumet shit i'd seen before, putting in a vote for Taxi Driver.
― Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I voted for Rocky bcz apparently I forgot how to read the word NETWORK. ;_;
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Network is the only Lumet movie I like outside of The Wiz. Even 12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
at that point i thought Dog Day Afternoon was the best movie ever. (it's definetely among the best) though ranking movies seems even more useless than ranking records. dunno why.
― Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Have you seen Prince of the City, tho? Maybe best American dirty-cop movie ever.
xp
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(I'm pretty sure even Lumet wouldn't defend The Wiz, you perv)
someone with time give me a couple of more Hal Ashby recommendations, i mean are there any more after Bound for Glory, Harold and Maude, Being There and The Last Detail?
― Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Judging the evidence on display in his movies, Lumet wouldn't know a good movie it if hit him in the eye. (And in any case, Quincy Jones is the auteur behind The Wiz, not Lumet.) Haven't seen Prince of the City tho.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Treat Williams suuuuuuucks.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
oh E, you and bad movies.
Ludo: Shampoo, and Coming Home for the acting.
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
thx.
― Ludo, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
All of these are crappy to varying degrees save for Bound for Glory which I haven't seen. So I'm voting for it cuz it has the potential to be great.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, this lineup does sort of approach the apotheosis of new hollywood, isn't it.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
er, doesn't it
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
It does indeed. Also, this was the year of Hitchcock's last film, Family Plot which, prolly needless to say, I'll take over any of these.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Family Plot is great too. I don't see why I can't have both that AND Taxi Driver/Carrie/Assault on Precinct 13/et al.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I've always been fascinated by the perfect symmetry of Ashby's '70s career: the six films mentioned above, plus The Landlord--seven for seven, without a single misstep. Obviously there's some variance in quality among them, but most every other major director of the era had at least one high-profile debacle on his resume: [i]1941, Quintet, New York, New York, Sorcerer, etc. (And the three exceptions that come to mind--Coppola, Kubrick, and Lucas--directed fewer than 10 films between them.) Ashby basically emerges as the secret hero of A Decade Under the Influence, Ted Demme's documentary on American film in the '70s.
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not as crazy about Shampoo as I used to be, and I haven't seen The Landlord, but Ashby had a helluva streak.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
taxi driver for me
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
network
― macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
New York, New York is not a debacle. Jesus you people have awful taste.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Of course I like Sorcerer better than Coming Home so maybe I'm the one with the problem.
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
TAXI DRIVER, c'mon!
― have the lime of your life, heyyyyyy (Tape Store), Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Alex otm re NYNY! Must be that time of year. ;)
Scorsese perfected Taxi Driver with its superior remake, The King of Comedy.
12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.
Even Armond White, your colleague in the Hate Lumet Treehouse, sees value in his putting great acting on the screen, as in Long Day's Journey into Night. If de Palma ever manages it, do give a call.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 11:53 (fourteen years ago) link
"Scorsese perfected Taxi Driver with its superior remake, The King of Comedy."
Wowthisisgettingeerie. ;)
― Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I saw the Hill recently. Even Lumet haters might really like that one.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Def TaxiDriver.
― I GOTTA BRAKE FREEEEE (stevienixed), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
If de Palma ever manages it, do give a call.
No.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Which is to say, it's impossible for me to call you in 1976, when De Palma put at least four of them in just one film.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Ooooh burn. That's kind of DePalma's exception though. I'd agree with Morbs that acting is an afterthought in a lot of his movies (which I often love.)
― Alex in SF, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
No argument from me there. I do think the performances typically work for his films just fine.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Spacek and Laurie -- Amy Irving is great in that? in a Fast Times at Ridgemont High kind of way?
No, I mean, you know, great, as in Jason Robards as Jamie Tyrone great. (an Oscar winner in '76 as Ben Bradlee, to steer back on topic.)
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
(I also can't imagine you really really could be calling Betty Buckley's efficient performance as the friggin' gym teacher great. Oh, you are a card.)
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
A poll of the '76 acting nominees would be fab: every nominee came from Network anyway. I think it's still the only movie to earn three acting Oscars.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Efficient hardly describes her cautiously optimistic chat with Spacek at her prom table.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
My second-favorite 1976 de Palma-directed performance is probably Genevieve Bujold in Obsession. Good year for him.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Bujold was great in Coma. What ever happened to her?
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Bujold is good in Obsession, but the movie is the one true bummer in that mid-70s spread.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless you are humorless and go for that type of thing.
you know me!
oh, if you take The Fury as pure burlesque, your love is slightly fathomable. :)
Bujold hit a new peak w/ Croney in Dead Ringers.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
How I'd have voted on the '76 acting awards: De Niro, Spacek, Robards, Laurie.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty IMDB of me, but it's that kinda year.
"Cut out 'her tit.' This is a family newspaper."
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
How I'd have voted on the '76 acting awards: De Niro, Spacek, Robards, Laurie
If I were voting now, I'd let Dunaway keep her Oscar knowing that Spacek would win in '80.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Between it and Coal Miner's Daughter, Carrie's the better picture, but she's great in both.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Liv Ullmann should've won at some point. Marion fucking Cotillard....
Sorely missing nominees: Walter Matthau in The Bad News Bears, John Wayne in The Shootist and Shirley Stoler in Seven Beauties
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Knowing that I'd give my Oscar to Faye in '81, I'd give Spacek her due in '76.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 25 May 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh look, there are results.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
That's odd. How come there wasn't one of those automatic "poll results are in" posts?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 8 June 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
All the President's Men over Network, which is no more reactionary and a lot more civilized than Taxi Fucking Driver
― benbbag, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
Even 12 Angry Men is just 12 great performances locked in a room.
― nu hollywood (Eric H.), Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:49 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It may be a tribute to Lumet that you don't notice how much more than that it is
― benbbag, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
Showed Network to a crowd last night and it was surprisingly well received.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Didn't hurt that the crowd was very full of the core "they don't make them like that anymore" demo.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/aEcujXyziE8qk/giphy.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
Many bathroom breaks during Beatrice Straight's monologue?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
Every good word in the English language is in that script.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
"wainscoting"?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
Crusty ... but benign.
Owen Roizman's nomination doesn't make a lick of sense tho.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
Two previous nominations... and got one later for Tootsie. They just liked him.
He did the urban grime thing well, as in French Connection and Pelham 123.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
Word is that cinematography guild was the most insular boys club backscratching branch in that era.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link
Good news for your audience: Hollywood never stopped making plenty of shrill tirades on "what's the matter with society."
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
well Wexler won in '76 for Bound for Glory, gotta give em credit for that. xp
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.
"cocksmanship"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
Nine years later, I would change my vote from Taxi Driver to All the President's Men.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
It's cool, I just changed my vote from All the President's Men back to Network and now the two are tied for second place!
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
It's been a busy day.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link
wd now write in Mikey and Nicky
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link
I wasn't here 9 years ago, but Taxi Driver is still the best and Network still sucks.
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
were there ever consecutive Best Actress winners who played soulless villains besides Louise Fletcher and Dunaway?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link
Closest case I could determine was Natalie Portman in Black Swan and Streep's Margaret Thatcher.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 February 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link
Depends on what you think about Katherine Hepburn in On Golden Pond and Meryl Streep in Sophie's Choice
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
Bette Davis '38/Vivien Leigh '39? Maybe they weren't entirely soulless.
― WilliamC, Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link
I wasn't here 9 years ago, but Network is still the best and Taxi Driver still sucks.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
you can deconstruct Scarlett O'Hara myriad ways, but she is clearly the heroine of GWTW
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link
(and so is BD in Jezebel from what i can recall)
btw I have come to the realization that Holden was about 18 months older than I am now when they shot Network, and no one yet has impugned my cocksmanship.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
Date more loquacious programming directors with father complexes.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
Basically X agrees
Just curious, which of these should've won against ROCKY?— Eric Henderson (@ephender) February 14, 2024
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link