Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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surprise surprise the vegas shooter (remember him?) was a rwnj https://apnews.com/f467daaa52864d3ba2eaca4c7708e2e5

maura, Saturday, 19 May 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

In a jailhouse interview with police and the FBI, the man said Paddock called Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” set up after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin’ down doors and ... confiscating guns.”

The man, whose name was redacted in reports released Wednesday, quoted Paddock saying somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves.

The man said he met with Paddock outside a Las Vegas sporting goods store after posting an online ad to sell schematics to convert semi-automatic guns to fire automatically.

maura, Saturday, 19 May 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

I know there’s not a lot of info in the Vegas case and any new details are appreciated but that source is suspect as hell imo

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 May 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

Jailhouse interview? So the guy that supposedly met him was in jail? Why did it take so long for anything to come out about the guy's potential motive, which I thought was totally unknown? So yeah, color me dubious.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 May 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

that’s just one part of about 1200 pages of evidence that were unsealed by foia this week

maura, Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

here’s another bit

In a handwritten account, a woman said she overheard a man she later said was Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant just three days before the massacre. She told police that Paddock seemed angry about the 1990s standoffs at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge in Idaho.

“At the time, I just thought ‘strange guys’ and I wanted to leave,” said the woman.

maura, Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/spurned-advances-provoked-texas-school-shooting-victims-mother-says-idUSKCN1IL0D9

Sadie Rodriguez, the mother of Shana Fisher, 16, told the Los Angeles Times that her daughter rejected four months of aggressive advances from Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, who is in jail charged with murdering 10 people early on Friday at the high school in Santa Fe.

Fisher finally stood up to him and embarrassed him in class, the newspaper quoted her mother as writing in a private message to the Times.

“A week later he opens fire on everyone he didn’t like,” she said. “Shana being the first one.”

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

FWIW

FYI: Since Shana’s mom started talking to reporters, other family friends have raised questions about the reliability of her claims and say they haven’t been able to corroborate her accounts about the shooter’s behavior toward her daughter. We’ll keep you posted if we learn more. https://t.co/u2lfdZuUzK

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) May 20, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 20 May 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

apparently this is serious?

"It's time to put an end to this glorification of carnage in pursuit of ratings because it's killing our kids. It's time for Congress to step up and pass legislation putting common sense limitations on #MSM's ability to report on these school shootings." –@MrColionNoir #MSMsense pic.twitter.com/0CulOKEPSn

— NRATV (@NRATV) May 24, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

I'm gonna go buy a gun so I can shoot myself now

rip van wanko, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

Not literally serious, no. It's actually a pretty clever/effective video. Not one I agree with at all mind you, but it's very well done. Skip to about 2:50 to see what they're up to.

If you don't feel like watching, after a fadeout the narrator comes back and asks if it was chilling to hear someone advocate for common sense limits on the first amendment, and says this is exactly how gun rights advocates feel when people advocate for common sense limits on the 2nd.

What he fails to acknowledge (I assume; I didn't watch to the end) is that we already DO have common sense limits on the 1st.

early rejecter, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

Well 1st limits like yelling fire in a Theater are about safety totally diff and reasonable. Not about freedom.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

1st amendment limits include perjury, libel, fraud, threats, hate speech, verbal harassment, and intimidation.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

Also, even highly protected political speech can be limited by requiring permits to march or to gather in public places for the redress of grievances.

People engaged in political protest are frequently treated as if they were one baby step away from engaging in illegal activity. Sometimes they are beaten and gassed if someone within a few blocks of them failed to immediately comply with police orders, distorted and barely comprehensibly delivered by shouting at them through a bullhorn.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

But, of course, none of this is comparable to the horror of asking gun owners to register their weapons with the government.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

Hah you get it

Hunt3r, Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

I mean its basically this

‘Breitbart’ Refusing To Release Names Of Mass Shooting Victims In Order To Prevent Them From Getting Attention https://t.co/M1Cw8sxnjo pic.twitter.com/97dlCcmuOG

— The Onion (@TheOnion) May 21, 2018

frogbs, Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

A 100% surreal, this-is-America moment from the Las Vegas massacre, told by one of the police officers at the scene. https://t.co/BjmsIKBPFQ pic.twitter.com/bewR36YCfv

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) May 25, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:48 (five years ago) link

crazy

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

my brain said “well OF COURSE” when I read that which is a sign that I am very thoroughly USAmerican I guess

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

It's early Sunday morning. When I first read "he flipped off the shooter," I thought that was some other way of saying he turned off the safety or something.

pplains, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

I mean, y’all. it was a country show and they were serving alcohol, there’s no way that didn’t happen when the rounds started popping off

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 May 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

My ex in AZ just posted that a guy came to her law office today and killed two of her employees

President Keyes, Saturday, 2 June 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

damn. live here and didnt hear about it til this post.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 2 June 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

Seems like this is a multi day AZ spree--suspect killed a pathologist on thurs, two paralegals on fri, and another man today. still at large.

President Keyes, Sunday, 3 June 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link

Jesus shit

El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 June 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

Man

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 3 June 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

it’s somehow related to the jon benet ramsey case?

maura, Sunday, 3 June 2018 06:33 (five years ago) link

Yeah the forensic pyschiatrist in the case was one of the victims apparently:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/arizona-psychiatrist-murders-paralegals.html

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 June 2018 07:45 (five years ago) link

jesus fucking christ

This should not be hanging in my soon-to-be-kindergartener’s classroom. pic.twitter.com/mWiJVdddpH

— Georgy Cohen (@radiofreegeorgy) June 6, 2018

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link

Rip usa

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

as a twitter commenter points out on that post, those words are to be sung to the tune of 'twinkle twinkle little star'

i can't even make a cynical joke to distance myself from how awful that is tbh, it's just crushingly sad

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link

That is surreal

jmm, Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

freedom ftw

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

http://i4.tinypic.com/53ucxtl.gif

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

luckily my kids are still in day care, and nobody would ever shoot up a day care

frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

dark lols

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

Yeah, the kid I tutor was telling me about the lockdown drills he's had to go through and it's...just goddamn heartbreaking. His attitude was somewhere between anxious and totally blasé. Like, this is just how it is, this is all they know.

This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

i wonder if the duck-and-cover nuclear drills were more or less damaging. They had songs for that too.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

no, of course subjecting an entire generation of kids to constant anxiety about the prospect of being violently murdered alongside their classmates, perhaps at the hands of one more of their classmates, won't have a devastating effect on their long-term mental health, why do u ask

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

(not directed at u morbs, i was drafting that while you were posting)

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

i always felt pretty secure knowing that my arms over my head would impede the terrible waves of nuclear hellfire

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

the rather obvious difference is that we weren't seeing nukes dropped on schools on a regular basis

Eliza D., Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

what is 'nothing stops a good bad guy wih a gun than a good guy with a gun' than simple scaled-down mutually assured destruction, i ask u

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

can't wait for the Sesame Street episode in which Big Bird IDs the different types of automatic gunfire in order to help gauge the distance of the active shooter

frogbs, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

"Say look at this! I was cleaning out my nest, and I found an old book of my notes on what to do if a deranged mass shooter enters a school."

omar little, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

Jesus

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link


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