the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

"her parents must have been very strong to raise that dumbbell" - trad

A comfort to know there are women like this in the tory party

The Who frontman Roger Daltrey has expressed his own distaste for Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

“Jeremy Corbyn is not a socialist,” he told Event magazine. “He’s a communist. Be honest about that and see how many votes you get, Jeremy, because otherwise, you’re going to be moving in to Downing Street under a false premise.”

says the rich dunce whose bandmate is a creepy old paedo, and wasn't very honest about it!

who frontman in 'failing to die before he gets old' shocker

Daltrey bought a home in Los Angeles in the early-2000s. Daltrey also owns a house in Sturminster Newton, which appeared on Grand Designs.[episode needed] Daltrey is a supporter of Arsenal F.C.[98] He supports Britain leaving the European Union[99] and is a supporter of the Conservative Party.

if Dignitas are ever doing a bring a friend twofer deal, he can bring captain paedo-research with him and at least they can try and make amends, if a little late.

Arsenal supporter is the worst, of course.

The cunt's from West London.

that's even worse than Townsend's heinous crimes!

People who include what football team someone supports alongside their homeowner status and voting habits are the real enemy.

all sport is counterrevolutionary

ban sport

He also disparaged the #MeToo movement, claiming rock stars are too desirable to women to commit sexual harassment or assault.

“Why would any rock star need to push themselves on women?” he said. “Usually, it’s the other way around. I’d like to have £1 for every woman that screws my ass. Mick Jagger would be a billionaire out of it.

he always did seem a bit of an "uncomplicated" lad.

well at least he enjoys pegging

Most of the Labour front bench, incl Corbyn, are Arsenal fans fwiw.

bunch of wankers!

Hard to avoid in Corbz manor.

see how easily sport divides us, comrades

ban sport

He was a #wengerin, iirc! Are people aware of the story about him and Hector Bellerin?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-piers-morgan-in-spanish-arsenal-star-hector-bellerin-a7955061.html

People who include what football team someone supports alongside their homeowner status and voting habits are the real enemy.

Also 'Proud Dad'.

gooner and comedian is a particularly toxic mix iirc:

Clive Anderson
Alan Davies
Paul Kaye
Matt Lucas
Rory McGrath
Dara Ó Briain
Ian Stone
Jack Whitehall

Osama bin Laden was a regular Gooner in the 93/94 season, he might have cut a conspicuous figure buying absolutely everything in the club shop, because he couldn't remember what sizes his 23 kids are.

nickb otm. speaking of bellerin, assume this has been shared somewhere on ilx already, but no reason not to post again:

Arsenal star Hector Bellerin slammed for his vegan food plan by Alan Brazil.

https://exposenews.info/sports/2018/05/04/arsenal-star-hector-bellerin-slammed-for-his-vegan-diet-by-alan-brazil.html

https://exposenews.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/arsenal-star-hector-bellerin-slammed-for-his-vegan-diet-by-alan-brazil.jpg

pls keep this sick filth out of our beautiful politics thraed

Gammon content, allowed.

could just imagine the salty pork aromas coming off Brazil's steaming head on a summer's day!

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/tantrum.gif

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-tells-prospective-labour-peers-they-have-to-vote-for-abolition-of-the-house-of-lords_uk_5b05451de4b0784cd2affe9d?ncid=tweetlnkukhpmg00000008

correct

the correct reason for abolishing them rather than the JRM/May/Dacre sulky paws because they are continually pissing on their hard-brexit bonfire.

all agreed to the demand that they would vote for abolition when the opportunity arises

when the opportunity arises is it

so not going to happen!

journalism is hard, folks, even when you're as distinguished a figure as sky news' chief political correspondent

Very disappointed to learn reports that Ken Livingstone has or had a pet newt called Adolf, which I referred to y’day on TV & online, may not be correct. Am now told original source of this claim was satirical website “The Daily Mash”. Shame!

— Jon Craig (@joncraig) May 22, 2018

Everyone knows it was called Gingrich.

Feel bad for David Lammy and the absolute metric fuckton of abuse he’s getting for criticising Oxford. Always good to be reminded exactly how many cunts will queue up to look down on a man as accomplished as Lammy. Should’ve shut up and been grateful, I guess...

extremely here for david lammy murdering toby young in cold blood

Toby tell us again about that time you got into Oxford because your Dad (a Baron) rang up the College to ask them to let you in because you didn't get the grades? And then come back to talk to me about institutional bias and why white students twice as likely to get in as black. https://t.co/1iVhwjBad3

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) May 23, 2018

dunking on toby young should be an olympic sport

only if it involves cannonballs dropped from a minimum of 20 metres

and since it's national taking out the trash day

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd4So22U0AIdiDU.jpg:large

god rees-mogg is such a fucking moron

Lammy (and countless others) point out that the acceptance rate for black applicants to Oxford is lower than it is for white applicants. But if you control for the acceptance rate in the subjects applied for (most popular in case of black applicants) discrepancy largely vanishes.

— Toby Young (@toadmeister) May 23, 2018

is this correct? if so, is the answer for Oxford to increase the number of places available for the most applied for subjects and reduce the number of places available for less applied for subjects?

Yeah Rees-Mogg is a moron, but when I see interviews with him he is so completely convincing in his self belief in regards to his superiority to everyone else and his sole ownership of the truth that I honestly find him chilling.

anyone watched "a very english scandal"?

I watched the first ep, didn't seem as terrible as most BBC drama these days.

xp
he get's a bit flaky when people actually challenge the spurious bollocks he often talks. As seen in the BBC NI interview the other week. It is just unfortunate that doesn't happen frequently enough.

Even with that interview I saw a lot of people saying that JRM came off on top, and you can see why, he's giving a certain kind of person exactly what they want to hear

He's still a joke here in Fife, if that's any consolation.

xp yeah, the sweet satisfaction of knowing their place. He appeals to a certain kind of authoritarian mindset and knows it, no matter how much he tries to disguise it. Matthew Parris wrote about him a couple of months ago.

When he’s right (which he usually is) Matthew Parris is very, very right. Superb article putting the preposterous and dangerous @Jacob_Rees_Mogg firmly in his place. pic.twitter.com/23TF69EcOY

— 🇪🇺 Paddy Briggs #FBPE (@PaddyBriggs) March 24, 2018

hats off to the sunday times’ picture editor for choosing that pic

Our Fash!

this owns
http://renewal.org.uk/articles/the-institutional-turn-labours-new-political-economy

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

I was wondering what people here think about this article ("Centrists Are the Most Hostile to Democracy, Not Extremists") wrt UK politics? I've seen criticism from people who think the article is flawed in that it doesn't do enough to define its terms or to distinguish between 'centrism' and 'the beliefs of ppl who self-identify as centrists'. But I think there's something to the idea that fascism = the authoritarian centre (different from the liberal centre, but with with occasional overlap) and maybe that's part of the explanation for these results?

I'd guess that in Britain a lot of UKIP inclined people might define themselves as centrists rather than 'left' or 'right', and obviously you could say it's misleading to lump them in with #FBPE types? Stephen Bush frequently argues that polling shows there *is* room for a new party based on a section of public opinion that's currently underrepresented, but that section of public opinion is ppl who are economically left wing and socially conservative, hostile to immigration - pretty much the opposite of the 'new centre party' that Jolyon Maugham and various Economist journalists envisage. But I think there is potentially some crossover between the two centres - the way both define themselves as being motivated by 'common sense' and what's 'sensible' rather than ideology, both define themselves as representing 'the people' rather than interest groups. A lot of the pro-EU centrists are obv nostalgic for Blair/New Labour, which had its authoritarian tendencies - 90s days detention, indefinite sentences, appointing 'czars' who could go other the head of moribund bureaucracy, general disdain for checks and balances etc (I don't know enough about French politics to say, but I've seen it argued that Macron has similar authoritarian tendencies when it comes to law and order/security and overriding checks and balances to push reforms through?).

And enthusiasm for direct democracy is maybe something that unites the two centres? That might seem like an odd thing to claim when the pro-EU centrists are trying to undo the results of the brexit ref and position themselves as champions of checks and balances against the tyranny of the majority, will of the people etc, but a lot of them are also pushing the idea of a second referendum, the new centrist alignment they talk about seems to implicitly have a majoritarian subtext even if they don't have a majority of public opinion on their side, frequent referendums became a feature of UK politics during the Cameron era, which these ppl now look back on a kind of golden age etc.