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I posted it because this was just one piece of a lot of news that has been happening recently (with all of the sentencings from the rally) and that they are actively trying to make this guy a martyr.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link

Horst Incel

Spiderman pointing at himself.img (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

yes. and specifically, to make this guy a martyr as a way of canceling out that other news, to "what about the terrible crimes of the alt-left, such as, i heard a nazi killed himself?"

it's not a matter of it being "it's less bad when these people die/suffer," as that this guy's death is not relevant, important, newsworthy or interesting, except to his family and friends i assume, and to cynical fascists wielding it to try and either establish a both-sides narrative or just troll the internet. not every person who dies gets a moment of silence on ilx or anywhere else - why should he, exactly? except to balance some imagined scales between him and people that his nazi buddies assaulted in order to "perform" a belief that all life is sacred? that's the both-sides-ism at work.

obviously i am much more sympathetic to those responding in terms of the epidemic of unaddressed mental health struggles and suicide generally. in that sense every death is an avoidable tragedy and i am not interested in making light of suicide. i just ask that you forgive me not being able to extend my emotional energies as far as "performatively" weeping for torch-carrying nazis/sympathizers. i have personal reasons for this with charlottesville particularly but again vis-a-vis this thread, the nazi sympathizer troll author of this blog post is specifically trying to exploit our ethical commitment to people suffering as a way to martyr this guy. the argument would need a total bottom-up rewrite to become something i'd be obliged to take seriously as a moral dilemma that prompts me to challenge my conflicting values etc etc.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

~300 more deaths in the US since my last post in the thread btw

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

Dr. C otm, the narrative being created around the death does not just deserve pushback, it requires it.

sleeve, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

I really didn't want to turn this into a suicide/overdose or performative grieving thread, I think people should feel however they feel about death. Sorry!
I think there is still another rally planned in Cville for this August despite the city's attempts to prevent it.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Yerac I am from C-ville and was just there, they've changed a lot of the rules about public gatherings (unsurprisingly) so I hope that helps.

sleeve, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

Oh really? I was there from the mid 90s to 2000s (at pl4n 9, UT$, 'TJyou). I've been keeping up to date on everything from the people associated with <<< those who were directly affected. There is still a lot of ptsd.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

whoa

have not lived there since the mid-80's but I may have bought records from you at that store on a visit home

yeah a friend's kid got hit by the car (is OK but...), people are still freaked out

sleeve, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

DC you've construed a distaste for ppl publicly making a point of their lack of empathy for a recent suicide as a demand that ppl do the opposite

ogmor, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

which "ppl" are you talking about? i think i have construed right-wing activist and mythmaker lucy brown pretty accurately.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

anyone

ogmor, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

DC I was getting confused about what you were trying to express too (and I went back through the thread), so I left it alone.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

now I feel bad that I even read that stupid Medium article, various things about it (referring to nuclear energy as "clean and renewable", stuff about Mayor/cops not adequately protecting the nazis, the handwringing about antifa weapons but not y'know nazis carrying assault rifles) raised my suspicions but know I feel stupid I gave her a click.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

I don't think medium really generates much money, if at all, for writers. So, there's that.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Horst Incel

omg

j., Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

if she commits suicide because we hound her off of medium.com should we feel guilty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

No. Also, keep us updated.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

medium pays on claps

maura, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Thanks, for some reason I thought it was based on clicks by members.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

deleted a post above at user request (sorryI didn't see it for two days). worth noting that the author has indeed been hounding off medium.com

That's curious - my @Medium account has been shut down. pic.twitter.com/zFuQZWUOEq

— Lucy Brown (@lucyfrown) May 24, 2018

mod, Saturday, 26 May 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

hounded

how's life, Saturday, 26 May 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

Lol that was fast

Οὖτις, Saturday, 26 May 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

Laurie was right, language is a virus


Ahem, Burroughs was right (Laurie was quoting)

Elonio Grimesci (wins), Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

YEAH! (on medium kickout)

Yerac, Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

nice.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

Also want to remind that this thread is deindexed.

mod, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

here in portland the question of the moment is whether the guy who ran over three women at portland state yesterday is alt-right or not. in the meantime some anonymous people are making vague threats demanding that jordan peterson's upcoming appearance here be cancelled. this is hugely annoying because now of course the argument is going to be whether anonymous threats are ok instead of whether or not jordan peterson's upcoming appearance should be cancelled.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

Was at a 3 year old's birthday party this weekend and one of the dads was wearing a KEK t shirt and it bummed me out the whole time.

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

oh god :(

maura, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

discovered one of the students from my lgbt group who graduated a couple years back has gone alt right, she is dating a cop who has a kn1ghts t3mpl4r pic as his cover page

21st savagery fox (m bison), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

It’s a phase

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

im hoping so.

21st savagery fox (m bison), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

The Proud Boys/Patrot Prayer shitheads were in Portland this weekend, too

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

one of the dads was wearing a KEK t shirt

fuckin hell. did anyone else know what it was and/or make mention of it?

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

No, and I was too pissed off and embarrassed to ask anyone else if they knew.

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

prob for the best. i doubt i would have said anything unless someone around me remarked upon it. just sat there and silently raged. super healthy.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't have been able to help myself saying something like "well, you're a bigoted internet nerd, eh?"

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

I kinda wouldn't want a child of mine to be in contact w/ a kid whose dad thinks that's ok to wear at a kid's party but I also 100% get that it's not the kid's fault and if you did something you'd end up the asshole. :(

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:04 (five years ago) link

If it shows up again, why not accidentally spill something on it, rendering it unwearable? That’s gotta be what mustard is for.

suzy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:32 (five years ago) link

'oh noes i spilled my glass of bleach, i'm so sorry'

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:33 (five years ago) link

Anything with turmeric in would work brilliantly, especially if it was a 25¢-sized dollop somewhere around the midriff.

suzy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

the potential problem here i suppose is that the type of asshole who happily wears a 'kek' tshirt to a kids' party could easily also be the type of asshole who would happily wear a horribly-stained 'kek' tshirt to a kids' party

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/21/america-wont-see-go-without-epic-fight/

These dudes are really dialing it up a notch, huh. This apocalyptic violence fantasy seems reflected in the Trump chumps I'm encountering on Twitter.

funzone76, Thursday, 21 June 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

Jesse is a Marine Corps combat veteran, former congressional candidate in Arizona, and host of "Jesse Kelly Brief." Jesse resides in the Houston area with his wife and two sons.

Photo Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Bradley C. Church

Stupid cunts.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

Jesse sucks

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

So, barring some unforeseen awakening, America is heading for an eventual socialist abyss. It is really only a matter of dates. Will we all die in the inevitable communist purges within ten years? Of course not. Will it happen within the next century or two? Almost certainly.

omar little, Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

I know I ought not ask but in what fucking alternate reality do dipshits like this think they're living in?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

former congressional candidate in Arizona

Strange idea, boasting that you are a loser. I mean, any of us could be a congressional candidate, too. All we need is to pay a relatively small filing fee to appear on the ballot and then sink without a trace.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 June 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

I know I ought not ask but in what fucking alternate reality do dipshits like this think they're living in?

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:49 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean i share the sense (Global Warming's Terrifying New Math + global migration to thread) that we're heading for a nasty confrontation between the socialist/radical left and the white nationalist radical right. The migration patterns won't ease, the climate/climate-adjacent refugee crisis won't slow, and I think within our lifetimes that old chestnut about humanity's need to choose between socialism or barbarism is gonna cleave ever sharper.

But I don't particularly enjoy these thoughts the way this guy seems to.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link


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