Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

fred

mate

Look, at this point, the prior should be that anything defending Woody Allen is probably not true. It has been like that for decades at this point. And so much stuff in this blog post is sketchy. Just the simple thing: If Mia Farrow is an abusive mom, who drove the Previn children insane as well, wouldn't this be something that would have been brought up during the custody battle in 93? Is Woody Allen completely blind? Either 13 kids, a bunch of journalists, the whole court system, is almost conspiring to cover for Mia Farrow. Or this one guy is lying.

fred

mate

i'm leaning towards fred's side here, truth be told

I'm leaning towards the 'eh let's not waste our time trying to weigh up evidence in this sorry fucking mess' side.

I can't begrudge anyone for washing their hands of this mess, but I honestly think it's important. Because the outcome isn't likely to be 'both sides are awful' as much as 'who knows' and then Woody Allen get's a standing ovation at his next Oscar nomination.

Woody Allen is not getting another Oscar nomination.

There is clearly room for all of the children's accounts (Ronan, Moses, Dylan) to be true, simultaneously. It was a big family and it can't have been possible for everyone to see everything, and Moses's account continually alludes to the situations in which family members were unaware of each other's behaviour. The train set evidence is not damning. You can remember getting mugged without remembering where it happened. And it's normal for children (and adults!) to cope with violence and bad behaviour by learning to normalise it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeCjshuXcAA8Heo.jpg:large

he carried a book on elia kazan in. motherfuck that guy

So as @psmith worked out, it looks like Weinstein is ostentatiously carrying Elia Kazan’s biography. Is he allying himself with the man who notoriously outed his “commie” Hollywood peers, or trying to suggest he’s a victim of a witchhunt? https://t.co/nF52Z6QH8V

— Janine Gibson (@janinegibson) May 25, 2018

If he has learned any decency, he would plead guilty.

Sure hope that Elia Kazan book is Weinstein signalling that he intends to rat out a bunch of other abusers in an attempt to save his own skin.

He should. Sometimes crab mentality is ok.

Like when you want the crabs to stay in the container so you can eat parts of them

Those French, they are, 'ow you say, crazy...

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/catherine-breillat-asia-argento-harvey-weinstein-jessica-chastain-me-too-1201945040/

Appropriate photo there

Three Mario Batali restaurants in Vegas will close amid mounting sexual-misconduct allegations against the chef https://t.co/T6WN5T3jxj

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) May 25, 2018

Let’s revel in the amazingness of Las Vegas hospitality businesses shuttering because their Italian-American proprietor has been reportedly getting handsy with the staff.

Catherine Breillat can go to hell afaic

https://theblemish.com/images/2007/04/joe-pesci-casino.jpg

Breillat made some good and interesting movies once upon a time but imagine taking her opinion about this sort of thing seriously

http://observer.com/2018/05/george-takei-accuser-scott-brunton-changed-his-story-of-drugs-assault/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/metoo-sexual-assault-claims-accused-men-plot-redemption-charlie-rose-mario-batali

Talkshow host Charlie Rose was fired by CBS and PBS in November after he was accused of groping colleagues and walking around naked in front of them, allegations he denies. Last month, he was reported to have been pitching a new atonement TV series in which he interviews other accused men like him, according to Page Six.

Celebrity chef Mario Batali took a leave of absence after he was accused by multiple women of inappropriate and abusive behaviour. After apologising, he has been “eyeing a second act”, according to the New York Times. Friends and associates say he is “pondering timelines” as to how he might step back into his career just months after it imploded, including by “creating a new company led by a powerful woman chief executive”.

Yeah well Batali keeps getting named by more people so that plan's dead.

Anyway:

JUST IN: Harvey Weinstein indicted by grand jury on charges of rape and criminal sexual act.

“This indictment brings the defendant another step closer to accountability for the crimes of violence with which he is now charged," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance says. pic.twitter.com/vgrZtne0rF

— ABC News (@ABC) May 30, 2018

Equestrian trainer Jimmy Williams.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/sports/jimmy-williams-flintridge.html?emc=edit_ca_20180529&nl=california-today&nlid=26824120180529&te=1

Woody Allen: 'I should be the poster boy for the #MeToo movement'

wow, go off king

Woody Allen was not accused by 'one woman in a child custody case', he instigated the custody case himself seven days after Mia Farrow told him about what Dylan was saying. It's the very first line in the custody ruling. Fuck that sack of shit so much, and fuck the journalists who keep uncritically repeating his lies.

https://www.scribd.com/document/205403621/Allen-v-Farrow-Custody-Ruling-June-7-1993

And btw this is an extract from the Eric Lax book Start to Finish, where Moses first spoke out:

"Woody says she called him many times late at night to scream…'You took my daughter, and I'm going to take yours," meaning Dylan…During one phone call to Woody, Farrow warned, 'I've got something planned for you." Allen asks if she's going to shoot him, to which Farrow reportedly responds: "…No, this is worse."

Allen a) provably lies about Mia Farrow as in the first example and b) tells these absolutely disgusting stories about her with no back up evidence as in the second example. And still people just say it's word against word. It's so gross.

it's amazing how Frederik has insight into this story that so few others in the world reporting it have obtained

Yeah, it kinda is. Especially since I'm just using google. Journalists suck, huh?

guess so

well if you found 'evidence' on the internet it's all over QED

Yeah, we all know huffington post uploads fake court documents all the time, lol.

he said he was "accused by one woman in a child custody case," he didn't say who instigated it.

not that the court document is false or anything but huffington post is a pretty shitty site fyi.

provably lies about Mia Farrow as in the first example

i was going to ask you how that is 'provable,' Perry Mason, but i'd actually rather shoot myself

Are you all on Woody's side or someting? :/

yeah... :/

I would never be on a side that would have someone like me on it

I mean, who bloody cares? We're not defending a prodigy, and he's made illiterate stupid movies for years. Fuck'em.

He was not in a child custody case when he was accused by Dylan.

my feeling is that mia and woody are prob both pretty terrible ppl, but i don't think you have to be "on woody's side" to find moses farrow's account as credible as dylan's.

ok but fuck woody allen for what he said in that linked piece

there are many, many reasons to say "fuck Woody Allen." I don't have any reasons to say "fuck Moses Farrow."

You can choose to believe an account over an other, but let's not pretend like it's less about personal politics than knowing what really happened.

Not even Dylan and Mia have said 'fuck Moses Farrow'.

the moses account has definitely made me question stuff i thought already so i don't have a "side" - it seems strange to be capable of leveling the kind of vehement certainty about this awful, private situation that Fred does

Woody Allen has only ever been a poster boy for himself.

Things we know with 100% certainty about this case: Woody slept with Mias daughter, treated their daughter Dylan weirdly (though the details will remain murky) then began smear campaign against Mia. These are objective facts, with numbers of witness statements and a ruling from a judge. Don't muddy the case more than it is.