Things you were shockingly old when you learned

I’ve always pronounced it lieutenant cause not having any interest in the military growing up I’d have only seen it written down or heard in American films I think. The standard Brit way of saying it is still the most bonkers pronunciation/spelling mismatch to me

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Yeah there are a few proper names like that (st John & Magdalene are milder examples) but I’m racking my brains trying to think of another word that’s analogous to lieutenant conjuring up an f out of nowhere; usually when English does the “I’m gonna just say a different word to what’s written here thanks” thing it’s more like weskit, blaggard where letters are elided, not added in

There's no R in colonel.

True! I guess because many Brits (the ones who don’t say the r on the end of a word) say it “cuh-nel” I was counting it as one of the missing-letters-out set

that even people from the British government used to refer to Australia as New Holland right up to the mid 19th century.

wait until you hear about this new South Wales I found

just learned in last year that there are finger plastic things that help you flip through paper super fast and these are now essential with magazine reading for ease of use

rotgutt blew my mind re open sesame, never knew that

I'm pretty sure you still don't

xxxp sic

Can't we deport the Manic Street Preachers there pls? I was just surprised the British government was still referring to it as New Holland in official correspondences almost a century after they had claimed the continent.

it's been 200 years for NSW but I'm still keen for a better name

as long as they don't name it after one of the current conga line of apparently invincible right wing fuckholes i don't care what they call it tbh

New South Brexitlandia

New South Fucking Milton Keynes of Death!

I get places like "New England" or "New York/New Amsterdam", but I never got "New South Wales".

I understand there's a region called South Wales, but why not have just named the state "New Wales"? It'd be akin to some guy from Nebraska landing on Mars and calling the area "New Midwest America".

The people of New Rees-Mogg expressed surprise when, after dynamiting the links to the nearby landmass, they did not start to float away off.

In his original journal covering the survey, in triplicate to satisfy Admiralty Orders, Cook first named the land New Wales, however, in the copy held by the Admiralty, he revised the wording to New South Wales.

Christ, who would want to live in New Wales, the old one is bad enough.

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Vase is one I heard both ways growing up, although the ahhh version I heard as more a snooty Kennedyism as opposed to an attempt at a French pronunciation. Same people who would say take a bahhhth.

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The weird Kennedy New England accent is still something that I'm not used to even after living in Boston for so long.

Bahhhth is the weirdest one to me. I remember the first time I heard someone up here say that. So weird.

Even growing up around it was weird. It was jarring when I'd hear a grandparent pronounce it that way.

mag wheels were called mag wheels because they were... made from magnesium

Background to the garbage strike that King delivered the I Have a dream speech to an audience in.
Black garbage men couldn't shelter from the rain anywhere in Memphis so climbed into their compactor and the broom they were using to keep the thing open shifted meaning they got crushed.

Only heard it this afternoon.
Think I'd heard about the speech being during the garbage man strike a few years ago

That everyone sucks.

What the word "feckless" means.

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mag wheels were called mag wheels because they were... made from magnesium

LOL ok I didnt know this either and it seems so obvious now I do.

What the word "feckless" means.

Obviously not a reader of right wing UK rags or habitue of Tory Party conferences.

That "indicted" is actually the same as the word that's pronounced "in-DITE-ed".

Thanks, The Good Fight!

OHHH

Now I feel bad for the verb 'indite'

And yet 'interdict' is pronounced 'enter-DICKED'. Whoever invented English (Thomas Edison, I think?) really should've tried a little harder.

First time I noticed the word feckless was on roisin Murphy’s song “hairless toys”

“Wreckless, feckless, careless talk”

What do Americans use instead of feckless, or are there no feckless Americans?

Some of us use feckless. There are plenty of Americans with a marked deficiency of feck.

I’m Canadian but I would probably use irresponsible, weak or futile

Talking of which, I used to think it was less bad to call someone a cunt in America than here (Scotland not included) but now I don't know any more.

I feel like maybe the word gets used against women more in the US, but this may be based mostly on this latest case and that Curb episode.

There is nowhere it is less bad to call a woman that than in America afaict

I mean more bad. It is very bad here.

The word is almost exclusively used against women in the US and therefore has a much more misogynistic connotation over here.

Yes, I think that's the difference.

p sure i was mixing up "feckless" & "guileless" well into my 30s

re thread subject: Old Whites would prefer the world burn to a crisp with their grandkids on it than modify their lifestyles or beliefs one iota.

(xp| Can I throw gormless into the mix?

ha yep

yeah 'cunt' is a 'bad word' in the UK but depending on the situation and location it can get thrown around a lot, more usually to describe a man I'd say

i've always used feckless to mean lazy or idle. is that wrong?

yeah 'cunt' is a 'bad word' in the UK but depending on the situation and location it can get thrown around a lot, more usually to describe a man I'd say

Similar to calling a man a pussy here in the US. Which is still sexist btw (if you stop for a second to think about the implications), just not as bad as calling a woman a cunt. We generally wouldn't call a woman a pussy, in the "grow a pair" sense.

I'd be okay with all these usages dying out.

It's not similar to calling a man a pussy at all, that has implications of weakness and unmanliness doesn't it?