the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

every white person I have spoken to who has claimed some sort of gammon-offence has quickly revealed a knot of confused feelings which were there already and need to be untangled

I know someone whose surname is Gammon, tho I haven't spoken to em about it.

I note Rosanne Barr is calling for Robinson’s immediate release on Twitter. I legit don’t know how anyone still engages with her shows.

Ah well, some good news today then.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/news/95529/watch-gavin-williamsons-cringe-worthy-interview-%E2%80%98terminated%E2%80%99-failure

however carefully ppl dress up civility politics in common sensical gently derisive "knock it off lads" policing it still comes down to a raw appeal to authority, pulling off the neat trick of acting like something is trivial enough to not think abt seriously yet serious enough to be condemned.

gammon might not be good for you but the distaste for it is at jamie oliver-levels of unconvincing and point-missing

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fuck me, the tough talking Defence Sec given a hard time by that heavyweight Madley, no wonder the Russians are shit scared of him!

yes, conflating gammon with working class is ridiculous, the porterhouse 9 all looked stout yeoman types. They'd probably pass the SMaconie test for working classness by having regional accents, though.

Madeley off his meds again, local offies be aware

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/29/children-poverty-rocketing-defend-rights-unborn-child

Dr Francis Ryan: the very same zealots that care very much about the unborn child - shock horror - don't give much of a flying fuck about women and actual born children living in abject poverty. "Some British rightwing – often male – journalists couldn’t resist stepping in over the Irish debate too."

mods pls delete all my gulag/guillotine posts

An Islamic State supporter who posted more than 300,000 propaganda messages online has admitted encouraging would-be lone wolf attackers to target Prince George at school.

Husnain Rashid, of Nelson, Lancashire, called for the four-year-old to be targeted shortly after the prince joined Thomas’s school in Battersea, south-west London, last year.

Lancashire police said he had posted 360,000 messages on 150 different chat threads on Telegram, an online messaging service, between November 2016 and his arrest on 22 November last year. They believe his messages, which also included exhortations to attack UK football stadiums, the 2017 general election, Wimbledon, the Trafford Centre in Manchester and BBC Proms in the Park, may have been viewed by millions of people.

Other targets Rashid had urged people to attack were British army bases, Jewish communities, the Russian World Cup, the Easter parade at the Vatican, tourist spots and train stations across Europe. He encouraged followers to deploy a variety of methods, including injecting cyanide into fruit and vegetables at grocery stores and calling for ice-cream to be poisoned.

There was no evidence that anyone acted on his posts. Rashid, who lived with his two brothers and their elderly parents, was not known to police and had no previous convictions

calling for ice-cream to be poisoned.

These guys are never done calling for stuff, what are they like?

calling for Wenger to be sacked

One of his more universally popular exhortations.

this guy's posts must have fucking sucked if not one person was moved to act even after he'd posted over a third of a million of them

also wtf is telegram

He needed to stick t one target, really.

don't fault him for being an ideas man ffs

injecting cyanide into fruit and vegetables at grocery stores

not sure he'd thought this one thru

Telegram is a fairly huge message service started by Russian corpo tech dude gesticulating in front of futuretech background Pavel Durov.

It’s massive in Asia and Latin America iirc.

> injecting cyanide into fruit and vegetables at grocery stores

was mercury in my day. and specifically Jaffa oranges.

mercury is retrograde

meh! only 300000 posts, this latest intake of indolent apprentice jihadists are never going to make the grade, erm.. bring back national service!

Those Labour women who are pointing at Theresa May, a highly successful women in a traditionally man’s world, and trying to undermine her over abortion rights in a devolved part of the UK should ask themselves “am I a proper feminist?”

— James Cleverly (@JamesCleverly) May 30, 2018

James NotVery.

Thank God women have James Cleverly to tell them how to be feminists.

Proving the lie of nominative determinism since 1969

James C - the first living brain donor.

MP for Braintree.... coincidence???

It's withered.

Nigel Lawson, a former chair of the Vote Leave campaign during the EU referendum and one of tens of thousands of Britons living in France, is to apply for his official French residency card.

Lord Lawson was speaking to the Connexion, a newspaper for the English-speaking community in France, which asked him if he was concerned about the impact of EU immigration controls. European officials have warned that Britain’s new blue passports could lead to travel delays and extra paperwork rather than the enhanced freedom promised by the government.

He replied: “I’m not particularly familiar with it, but as I live in France I’m not concerned.

christ almighty

Cunt.

did somebody just declare at some point in the last two years that the concept of shame was no longer operative?because these people should be ashamed of themselves.

academies who outsource janitorial staff should be ashamed of themselves. politicians who voted for war in iraq should be ashamed of themselves. those who voted through dla and pip cuts should be ashamed of themselves. home office employees who lost or destroyed entire boxes of people's personal fucking paperwork should be ashamed of themselves. they should feel bad. they should be made to feel bad.

we all died on december 21 2012 iirc, nothing means anything anymore

Tracer otm

Shame is for other people, people with less money.

elites have been 180 degrees wrong on every single goddamn defining issue of our times - war in Iraq, the financial crisis, the reaction to the financial crisis, austerity, the Syrian refugee crisis - fuck, even the smaller-bore NON-defining issues and when progressives and socialists and the left pointed this out IN REAL TIME they were ignored or mocked as out-of-touch morons who should leave the room while the real grown-ups dealt with things. how much longer is this shit going to continue? it's cognitively somewhat uh how you say DISSONANT

lol forgot to include BREXIT in my list there but it's another shining example

it doesn't help when moderates like Barry "I'm not a lobbyist, I'm the chairman of a lobbying company" are still in the Labour party and couldn't give a flying fuck (beyond the usual insipid lip service) about the millions affected by austerity, but get very upset about Brexit because it might affect the gravy train they've been riding hard for the last four decades. I remember that cunt visiting our little sink school in Brackenhall in the 70's and telling us how much hard work the life of an MP is! Well at least you can afford a nice farmhouse well outside your shithole constituency after four decades of solid backhander graft.

Barry "I'm not a lobbyist, I'm the chairman of a lobbying company" Sheerman, I should add.

Well.

Exclusive: The Conservative Party accepted a £50,000 donation from the wife of a former minister in Vladimir Putin’s government on the same day Theresa May announced Russia was "highly likely" responsible for the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal. https://t.co/yEwWEN4fwQ pic.twitter.com/r4l6K3AJBi

— andrew gregory (@andrewgregory) June 1, 2018

we've been through this, shame is dead

principles, how do they work

When she took office in July 2016, the PM said it would not be “business as usual” with Russian donors amid growing tensions between Moscow and the West. But her party has since received more than £800,000 from Russian-linked supporters.

All donations from oligarchs, bankers and billionaires in return for access and favours are inherently appalling. Chernukhin has been on the outs with Putin for 14 years, though, and had a fraud case (which he claims was politically motivated) targeted at him by the Russian government. Framing all donations from British Russians as substantially more suspicious than anyone else with hundreds of thousands of Pounds to chuck around for the privilege of playing tennis with Boris Johnson is not helpful.

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lol 2016, the year May paid lip service to Blue Labour and some media fools made preposterously daft comments about her! It seems a world away.

that's a good reminder sv, you're right of course

Shari v much otm, altho what's fascinating is the media distinction between evil Russian oligarchs and peaceful cuddly non-Russian oligarchs

I can remember a piece in Graun in the early 00's about how scum like Abramovich ruthlessly held people to ransom for their shares in Gas companies by withholding wages, probably not even close to the worst of his sins, but for a long time before his latest visa problems he has been in the cuddly category of oligarchs for some *strange* reason!

Arsenal fans tend not to like talking about Usmanov ime.

See also cuddly old Thaksin Shinawatra when he owned Man City.

d davis' new idea for Irish border is to create a 10-mile wide strip along the border where both (?) EU and UK market rules would apply (??) i shit you not