yeah i know its their thing and im sure itd overall be beneficial (if you didnt get injured) but i bet doing it 5 days a week wld be even better xp
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
also my daughter's friend told me I have a baby in my belly
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
lol
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
you don't really need that much protein
― Brad C., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
I responded, "Yeah? And how much can you deadlift, huh?"
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
the real question is how much can the fetus deadlift, dont want to be giving birth to a spindly twerp
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
i like to get super high and do yoga its nice i really get into it then maybe lift after
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
xpost, yeah I could only ever get up to 20 times a month. Real life takes over. I feel like I never even came close to injury and my posture was banging.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
For some weird reason I always thought that dudes that lift and don't do cardio look like Alex Jones. I now see I am wrong.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
sixpacks are made in the kitchen, but I don't know the recipe
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link
VENTURZ
GAINZ
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, May 28, 2018 10:01 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
I've added some mass and lost some inches, I'm feelin good and clear
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
do you guys do like yoga classes or do you have some youtube yogi that you follow or what?
― adam, Monday, May 28, 2018 9:02 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I used to go to yoga classes
But it’s kind of a rip off
My ex had one of those 300+ hour yoga teaching certificates so she taught me the poses
Now i sometimes just use youtube
But once you learn them you can mostly do them by yourself, unless you really want the ambience/guidance/social aspect of it
― F# A# (∞), Monday, May 28, 2018 9:11 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya if you want to get started w yoga wld recommend going to as many classes as you can until you get a feel for it, then if you want to do it on yr own u can, using a video at home is def a heavier lift for beginning
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
feel like yoga and lifting are similar where the entry level understanding is getting the form right but then a more intermediate level is how to actually engage yr muscles within that form
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
I have definitely told people more than once "lifting is a lot more like yoga than you would expect" because so much of it is about form, breathing, concentration and engagement of your muscles in a specific way
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
Also I have found through trial and error that taking a meditative approach is more effective than trying to get aggro/hyped up
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
I've been back at the gym for 2-3 months at this point and have been v disciplined abt being consistent and not making excuses to skip days, and proactively rescheduling gym days on nights I wanna do stuff. My weight is the same, which I expected more or less, but I def feel like parts of my body are getting meatier. It also feels really good to do things with ease that I could barely complete 2 months ago with 5-10 lbs less weight. It's still laughably small stuff (like, I'm benching 85, shoulder pressing 30, deadlifting 85) but it feels cool to notice improvements and I'm also happy that after doing this for several years I've become confident in what I do and no longer insecure abt, like, "will ppl notice i'm doing this incorrectly or with too little weight"
I think my goal next is going to be being much more mindful abt my diet, like eating more nutritious things, maybe tracking calories and protein instead of just winging it with making a vague effort to eat more meat and having a 25g protein shake after each workout
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
That’s awesome!
Fwiw I never ever judge anyone for using low weight bc everyone starts low. I do sometimes judge people for form just because either they are not getting benefit from the way they are doing it or they are risking injury.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link
I think low weights are pretty acceptable now too because of some people being into high reps/low weights and also who gives a shit ( no one knows your life). I like during my boot camp type of classes that almost every swole dude having to drop their weights in the middle of an interval because they just can't finish.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
Keep going Stevie! I'm also a guy starting with relatively little muscle, but I've been working very steadily the past few months and noticing the changes.
― how's life, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link
Also you never know if someone is working up to a higher weight. I had a weirdo get snobby working in with me on bench press because I was only at like tens on each side. But that was my warmup and I was doing a gradual ramp. My last set was more than his (in spite of him having prettier and more defined muscles), and he was doing like half range of motion.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
the absolute number of weight doesnt matter just as long as its heavy to you, then lift it with perfect form, also if you want to gain weight the easiest way is to eat a bunch of pizza and ice cream unfortunately, or so ive heard ive never been in the position to want to gain weight, tho i have eaten a lot of pizza and ice cream and can attest to its efficacy
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
I am in that supposedly lucky category of an easier gainer who doesn't even need to eat a bunch of pizza and ice cream. The downside of that shows in my belly.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
i feel like over all people focus on things like weight and reps when they cld be focusing on having perfect form
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
yeah def
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
That's a little why it's really good to take sculpting/boot types of classes at the gym (if offered). The instructor will constantly be on your ass about adjusting your form, engaging your core, getting your breath right.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
Or other weird nonsense like how sleeping on your side causes scoliosis or how using women’s barbell is unacceptable for dudes. JK I do agree those classes are useful for form improvements (and occasional comedy stylings as well).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
For my part I improved my front squat from maybe like 135 to 195 to 235 and it was almost all form related.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
Ha! I guess it depends on the instructor or demographic of the class. I know dudes don't often take them because it's "for women." But it's helpful if you can find the right class. I would never have felt comfortable doing different standing flys on my own otherwise.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
hmmm i feel like bootcamp/circuit training/crossfit etc are actually pretty bad for form, too many reps too much speed
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
too amped up
Like anything it depends on the class, instructor. I've never done crossfit. A lot of reps are fine if you have lighter weights.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
on paper its fine, like communism
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
Ha, I always just thought it was too expensive for that type of torture. Plus I see these crazy videos of how they row all wrong.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
I feel like the classes I see at my gym are absolute garbage for form, just someone yelling at you to do as many reps as you can as fast as you can.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
agree with lagoon basically. I mean even if they emphasize form, it's just natural that if you're getting all tired and winded you're going to start cutting corners.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
yeah imo the circuit training etc approach of adding speed to the mix making it sort of a hybrid strength/cardio thing is sus
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
on squats i do 4 count down, 4 count upsame for dumbbell presses
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
I don't know anything about the speed component. Is that a staple of something outside of crossfit? That seems weird and where injuries happen.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
xpost yeah, for squats I sometimes do a decreasing countdown. Start at 10 count up/down and then gradually get faster.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
my form in nearly everything (handwriting, running, climbing stairs) has sucked, so lifting can be preemptively dismissed.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
― Yerac, Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah crossfit and just circuit training generally are kinda all about working up a lather until yr totally bonked
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
they often go until failure but the problem is failure of form happens way before total failure
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
Oh, i was thinking of when I do plyo or kickboxing classes with 5-8 lb handweights where I can. I keep it super controlled though since I have nightmares about accidentally throwing the weight into the mirror.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
ugh i love the idea of perfect form, as it is i pride myself in doing slow, smooth reps even if it means a little less weight vs like doing lots of jerking and pulling and yanking and taking advantage of the weight's momentum
also i silently judge ppl who do a lot of jerking and yanking
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
i just don't want to drop mad coin on a trainer!!!
I mean slowness past a certain point definitely makes the exercise more challenging and might reduce the amount of weight you can do. Tempo squats are harder than regular squats. So for powerlifting, where the goal is to maximize the amount of weight you can lift, using explosiveness/speed will usually give you better results. But even powerlifters tend to do some slower-speed training.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
My brother in law came to visit for a week when we were living in an island location. He brought all his protein powders and his food scale because he weighs his chicken without fail. I got up in the morning and saw him out on the terrace lifting the chairs. He's super, super cut and dorito shaped though so I was like, YOU GO.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
also, he was a very slight teenager with body image issues so it's impressive to how much he's changed. My spouse is like "why are you looking at half naked pics of my brother!" But it's the before and after pics on his fb and it's crazy how much sculpted, proportional muscle he's put on.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
w/r/t form i find it easier to attain with ~more~ weight, rather than less. not, like, maximally loaded, but something where gravity helps enforce a good bar path
― gbx, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link