The Irish Abortion Referendum

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Marie Le Conte had the point earlier that there's definitely a case to be made for Patreon, but if you're using it to free yourself from the clutches of copy editors and fact checkers, maybe don't.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

On one level I feel almost bad for her because she’s not the first British person with a catastrophically bad take.

On the other, the kind of inaccurate shite she’s peddling isn’t any less patronising coming from someone who’s supposedly on the side of the progressives.

And as Naoise Dolan so cuttingly put it:
https://twitter.com/naoisedolan/status/10016084485539676

It would be nice if British media didn’t feel the need to explain stuff through the voices of people not familiar with the country. Someone else in the thread pointed out that even emigrants had to tread lightly which I thought was interesting and accurate - I can comment on the culture but I don’t live there anymore and the country feels different every time I go back!

gyac, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

I feel it is slightly rich to expect Ireland to be this familiar with the Work of someone who was not herself familiar with the difference between Taoiseach and Dáil. https://t.co/kYU3Vxay6W

— thot experiment (@NaoiseDolan) May 29, 2018

gyac, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

What is her Irish background anyway?

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

big father ted fan iirc

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

'Laurie Penny becoming the story' is something that's only happened because dozens of people have a weird obsession with her

FWIW this happens to most female journalists especially young, left-wing feminist writers. LP's just especially blunder-prone, even though her heart's in the right place. To be fair this irritates me a lot less now that she's no longer the automatic go-to voice for lazy commissioning editors.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

LP's writing is 1/3 "yeah, this is my view, good article" 1/3 "this is my view but I'm uncomfortable with you in my corner because this isn't the best take on it" and 1/3 "oh god no wtf" for me

condolences to the people of ireland on this one falling in that latter 2/3rds I guess

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

I did enjoy this post, clearly written by someone seething in about five minutes, that addresses how bad general British coverage of Ireland is.

https://www.joe.ie/amp/politics/10-rules-british-journalists-covering-irish-627662

gyac, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link

Doing a good job conflating British with English there though that's what we expect from the Irish.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

It does never cease to amaze me how little English people know about Ireland. Its right there! I always get asked if I'm from "southern Ireland." I had never heard this expression before I lived here! At first I was confused. I'm from the west! I know this seems petty, but in the aftermath of the EU referendum I went around lecturing people about the effect on the good friday agreement, until I realised that I was telling most people about the existence of the good friday agreement.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

"and which part had the war?"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

xxxp MLC actually mentioned commissioning editors in her list of things that Patreon deprives us of, but that's a good thing, I reckon. For perspective, I'm sure that we can all agree that anything that happened with Laurie is nothing compared with the fact that John Waters, the Raffles of oxygen, has been getting regular work all the way through this.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/05/ireland-an-obituary

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

the Raffles of oxygen

vg

capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

most english ppl don't know much abt england either

ogmor, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

there's a really distinctive lack of curiosity its true. I also recently explained to somebody (from brighton) where east anglia is.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

people whose mind is blown by the existence of "Dún Laoghaire" and think it's some sort of niche reference that only Ireland experts will get

A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

passed and off to himself for signing

Moussa- ppl gon die (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

I saw this and haven’t really followed, are they still planning to charge €300 for the procedure?

Twitter moments categorised Savita’s death as “Indian woman who died in Ireland” and it made my eye twitch, so here are my favourite pictures of the Savita mural back in May:

The scene at Savita’s mural in Dublin’s Portobello as polls closed in Ireland’s abortion referendum pic.twitter.com/VAbVPSpCgi

— Rita O'Reilly (@RitaOReilly) May 25, 2018

The Savita mural in Dublin right now @rtenews pic.twitter.com/cbE2z9nnHl

— Samantha Libreri (@SamanthaLibreri) May 26, 2018

Flowers and messages left at a mural for Savita Halappanavar, who died in 2012 after she was refused an abortion pic.twitter.com/eXGqN7vOoq

— Eleanor Barlow (@EleanorBarlow) May 26, 2018

Flowers and tributes were left at the Dublin mural of Savita Halappanavar, who died in 2012 in an Irish hospital after she was denied an abortion while suffering the complications of a septic miscarriage. “I’m so sorry. My vote was for you,” one note reads. #8thRef pic.twitter.com/b5DRnfZFs9

— Sinéad Baker (@sineadbaker1) May 26, 2018

gyac, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

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There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

idk gyac about the charges but id imagine not, possibly that was a reporting of some of the amendments that the religious td/senator crowd were tryinf to have implemented while it went through oireachtas

stress im not sure on that tho

Moussa- ppl gon die (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

I guess we can crowd fund a um, fund for people who need abortions?

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link


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